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sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
July 01 2011 12:49 GMT
#2481
On July 01 2011 21:48 BFD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 21:47 Lorizean wrote:
On July 01 2011 21:47 tdt wrote:
I don't know why they dont send in a toss and 4 gate him.

Does fOu have a good protoss?


They have Choya.

So yep. They don't have any good protoss.


Still, Choya's pretty good at 4 gate....(not really a troll, Sage seems to have problems when it comes to individual micro)
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Shalaiyn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2735 Posts
July 01 2011 12:50 GMT
#2482
Sage = SICK BALLER NERD AWESOME PERSON
SiNoCiDe
Profile Joined September 2010
Turkey67 Posts
July 01 2011 12:50 GMT
#2483
On July 01 2011 21:45 BaLoO- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 21:43 Pipeline wrote:
On July 01 2011 21:40 BFD wrote:
On July 01 2011 21:38 neoenigma wrote:
This is why forcefields are bullcrap...


This is why refusing to get any tech is bullcrap.

Here are multiple ways to break this contain:
Actually get two vikings and snipe the VRs
Get a siege tank with siege mode
Get two or three medivac and drop on the other side
Get a cloaked banshee
Get a thor

Toss has to get annoying tech to deal with some terran strats. Why shouldn't terran have to tech to deal with some toss strats?


Its funny because its true. All your ways DO actually break this contain!


Indeed, the one that destroyed me the most was an early contain against a guy who did pretty fast thor. What a nomatch, he rolled over me so easiiiiily. But usually medics are enough, the map was the only problem for it.

Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 21:45 SiNoCiDe wrote:
Leenock on my anti-team. Cmon SAGE crush this nerd!


Ahaha mine too. I was like "who costs a lot of points and is overrated ?". I took Trickster and Leenock :D


Yep likewise, it took me all of 3 seconds to decide after I saw Leenock and Alive at 20-24 pts.
FLASH | MVP | MMA | KAS | TAEJA | BYUN | MKP | POLT | BOMBER | THORZAIN
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
July 01 2011 12:50 GMT
#2484
On July 01 2011 21:48 Brainiac wrote:
Wait, they already called him the best protoss, and he won 3 matches in teamleague. Protosses must be really desperate for a new hero these days.

San's been slumping, so we only have MC and Alicia. We'll take whatever heroes we can get. =/
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
OooLong
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada98 Posts
July 01 2011 12:50 GMT
#2485
On July 01 2011 21:42 Slaytilost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 21:41 Lorizean wrote:
On July 01 2011 21:40 BFD wrote:
On July 01 2011 21:38 neoenigma wrote:
This is why forcefields are bullcrap...


This is why refusing to get any tech is bullcrap.

Here are multiple ways to break this contain:
Actually get two vikings and snipe the VRs
Get a siege tank with siege mode
Get two or three medivac and drop on the other side
Get a cloaked banshee
Get a thor

Toss has to get annoying tech to deal with some terran strats. Why shouldn't terran have to tech to deal with some toss strats?

Don't forget .. going through backdoor rocks oO

Sure, send your army through the back and leave your front open!


You're joking right? tell me you're joking
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 12:52:30
July 01 2011 12:50 GMT
#2486
On July 01 2011 21:49 jjhchsc2 wrote:
OMG MY FPL IS FAILING ME.
WHERES GUMIHO!!!!????


Nevermind, I don't know. . .
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
July 01 2011 12:50 GMT
#2487
Sage has to take leenock down before late game...Or else..0.o
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Shalaiyn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2735 Posts
July 01 2011 12:50 GMT
#2488
On July 01 2011 21:50 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 21:48 Brainiac wrote:
Wait, they already called him the best protoss, and he won 3 matches in teamleague. Protosses must be really desperate for a new hero these days.

San's been slumping, so we only have MC and Alicia. We'll take whatever heroes we can get. =/


Puzzle? He's incredible too
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
July 01 2011 12:50 GMT
#2489
On July 01 2011 21:47 dmnum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 21:45 Hammer442 wrote:
On July 01 2011 21:43 Rayansaki wrote:
Why no thebest? he'd brutalize this sage guy


The banshees transporting him to the GSTL move commanded through 4 turrets, and crashed.

LMFAO

Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 21:45 Brainiac wrote:
I love Artosis mancrushes on some players. A guy plays good match / series and artosis instantly says that he is a god. Funny thing that every player he praised like that is bad when you're looking at him now (only Nestea is showing some decent results). I feel sorry for Sage, Artosis curse... Oh, wait, already began, this guy is not even code A

Decent results? better be careful when you talk about the professor tea son.
And DRG is not code A. does that mean he is bad? MMA also not code A.
John and a lot of korean pros say that code B is harder than code A.

It's not that it is necessarily harder, it's just that it's more unforgiving. You have to win 4 bo3s against the best players in the world to get to Code A and because everyone's skill-level is so even it's hard to show consistent results.
SaSe fan club manager
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
July 01 2011 12:51 GMT
#2490
On July 01 2011 21:48 ChickenLips wrote:
LOL did you see Sage's crap mouse? That thing can't be worth more than 5$.


Maybe he dongraegu'd it from some pc bang =p

----

Time to see how Leenock's ZvP is doing, he looked alright vs Alicia in the super tournament before he fucked up spectacularly and left his broodlords on their own with his army half a map away ><
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
July 01 2011 12:51 GMT
#2491
On July 01 2011 21:49 Namu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 21:48 Hider wrote:
On July 01 2011 21:31 BaLoO- wrote:
On July 01 2011 21:26 Lennon wrote:
On July 01 2011 21:24 Hider wrote:
Wtf are they talking about? Sage is not good. Asd is not that good (beating code c skill players like boxer and jinro does not make you good).

Sage really should an awfull unit control. HE would lose to a terran with better mechanics than asd.


Cool troll.


Not really, it is too obvious. And not even creative. Not even code B troll.

Nice, again a protoss opening void rays pressure. I like this build, the only problem is that i allways lose with it. I wanna leaaaaaaaarn.


If artosis had not been casting, noone in this thread would be hyping this guy seriosuly. I should really stop talking in this thread. Most people are just too unintelligent.


ok i can agree that asd hasn't proved himself to be a top player yet obviously.
but what about scfou? and it's not just about raw skill, it's also about style. did you even watch his game vs siriousfou?


After the PvZ game on Tal'darim, people would DEFINITELY be hyping this guy the same even if Artosis had said nothing.
casualman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1198 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 12:52:26
July 01 2011 12:51 GMT
#2492
On July 01 2011 21:47 theprotagonist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 21:43 lariat wrote:
Ghosts. Ghosts are the answer. A single EMP would've allowed sC to break that contain and basically allow him to roll over the entirety of Sage's army. That said, Sage's play was incredibly clever.


sC was on one base essentially, if he teched to ghosts, he would have 0 army and would still have to wait while ghost energy goes up to emp all those sentries. Then sage just charges up sc's ramp and win.


Don't discount the damage that an emp can do. 1 nice emp in that situation could've easily hit 8 protoss units, being around 500 instant damage. A ghost academy is only 150/50, not expensive, and a ghost is a legitimate fighting unit that demolishes zealots. Terran would win the engagement considering the overhead building a nexus and a now unused stargate gives the protoss player. Maybe it won't work if the protoss didn't expand, but he did.
GuMiho <3
nAgeDitto
Profile Joined April 2011
United States428 Posts
July 01 2011 12:51 GMT
#2493
On July 01 2011 21:48 TheSilverfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 21:46 nAgeDitto wrote:
On July 01 2011 21:43 TheSilverfox wrote:
On July 01 2011 21:42 deeshoo wrote:
On July 01 2011 21:40 BFD wrote:
On July 01 2011 21:38 neoenigma wrote:
This is why forcefields are bullcrap...


This is why refusing to get any tech is bullcrap.

Here are multiple ways to break this contain:
Actually get two vikings and snipe the VRs
Get a siege tank with siege mode
Get two or three medivac and drop on the other side
Get a cloaked banshee
Get a thor

Toss has to get annoying tech to deal with some terran strats. Why shouldn't terran have to tech to deal with some toss strats?


He did 2 of those and it still didn't work.


Kind of only one of those. He got 1 or 2 vikings and didn't really try to snipe the VR. And also - he could probably kill his back door rocks.


going through the back door rocks puts your main in danger (he might come in and force field your back door.) and im pretty sure sage had a pylon there to scout it.. (pretty sure. not 100%)


I agree in normal circumstances. But at the end when he didn't have so many minerals left and what he tried before with his bio and medivbacs didn't work - you have to take some risks.



that is true. considering his situation, he should have done very risky things.

but i think changing his tech path (siege tank/ghost/thor) would have been a more appropriate risk in that situation.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
July 01 2011 12:51 GMT
#2494
On July 01 2011 21:50 Shalaiyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 21:50 Daralii wrote:
On July 01 2011 21:48 Brainiac wrote:
Wait, they already called him the best protoss, and he won 3 matches in teamleague. Protosses must be really desperate for a new hero these days.

San's been slumping, so we only have MC and Alicia. We'll take whatever heroes we can get. =/


Puzzle? He's incredible too

Forgot about Puzzle. I guess we have HuK, too.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
BlindDruid
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany653 Posts
July 01 2011 12:51 GMT
#2495
On July 01 2011 21:48 TheSilverfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 21:46 nAgeDitto wrote:
On July 01 2011 21:43 TheSilverfox wrote:
On July 01 2011 21:42 deeshoo wrote:
On July 01 2011 21:40 BFD wrote:
On July 01 2011 21:38 neoenigma wrote:
This is why forcefields are bullcrap...


This is why refusing to get any tech is bullcrap.

Here are multiple ways to break this contain:
Actually get two vikings and snipe the VRs
Get a siege tank with siege mode
Get two or three medivac and drop on the other side
Get a cloaked banshee
Get a thor

Toss has to get annoying tech to deal with some terran strats. Why shouldn't terran have to tech to deal with some toss strats?


He did 2 of those and it still didn't work.


Kind of only one of those. He got 1 or 2 vikings and didn't really try to snipe the VR. And also - he could probably kill his back door rocks.


going through the back door rocks puts your main in danger (he might come in and force field your back door.) and im pretty sure sage had a pylon there to scout it.. (pretty sure. not 100%)


I agree in normal circumstances. But at the end when he didn't have so many minerals left and what he tried before with his bio and medivbacs didn't work - you have to take some risks.



You need to take risks of abandoning your main because of one single ability of a tier 1 unit?
Ok ; )



User was warned for this post
s0uljah
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore143 Posts
July 01 2011 12:51 GMT
#2496
On July 01 2011 21:49 nAgeDitto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 21:45 Brainiac wrote:
I love Artosis mancrushes on some players. A guy plays good match / series and artosis instantly says that he is a god. Funny thing that every player he praised like that is bad when you're looking at him now (only Nestea is showing some decent results). I feel sorry for Sage, Artosis curse... Oh, wait, already began, this guy is not even code A


tbh i think most new code a>> some code s. (much less now than before, but still.)


I wouldn't say 'not even' code a.

yes getting through code a and then getting up to code s is impressive, but there are so many players that got there with past 'glories' when the scene was much less competitive. Many players are barely hanging on to their codes/a spot.

If you're saying hes not even code a 'material', then that might be a valid arguement if you think about the fierce code a qualifier


In my opinion, code a qualifier >>>>>>>>>>> up/down in terms of difficulty, unless you get a really lucky bracket..



Agreed, given that those currently in Code S just have to win one Bo3 to stay in Code S, while those coming up into Code A need to go through the entire qualifiers, with an impressive retinue of players still stuck in the depths of Code B.
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
July 01 2011 12:51 GMT
#2497
On July 01 2011 21:48 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 21:31 BaLoO- wrote:
On July 01 2011 21:26 Lennon wrote:
On July 01 2011 21:24 Hider wrote:
Wtf are they talking about? Sage is not good. Asd is not that good (beating code c skill players like boxer and jinro does not make you good).

Sage really should an awfull unit control. HE would lose to a terran with better mechanics than asd.


Cool troll.


Not really, it is too obvious. And not even creative. Not even code B troll.

Nice, again a protoss opening void rays pressure. I like this build, the only problem is that i allways lose with it. I wanna leaaaaaaaarn.


If artosis had not been casting, noone in this thread would be hyping this guy seriosuly. I should really stop talking in this thread. Most people are just too unintelligent.


Talk about hating...
Maskedsatyr
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore1245 Posts
July 01 2011 12:52 GMT
#2498
Lol tasteless
"Don't believe in you who believes in me, don't believe in me who believes in you, believe in you...who believes in yourself!"
BaLoO-
Profile Joined January 2011
France318 Posts
July 01 2011 12:52 GMT
#2499
On July 01 2011 21:48 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 21:31 BaLoO- wrote:
On July 01 2011 21:26 Lennon wrote:
On July 01 2011 21:24 Hider wrote:
Wtf are they talking about? Sage is not good. Asd is not that good (beating code c skill players like boxer and jinro does not make you good).

Sage really should an awfull unit control. HE would lose to a terran with better mechanics than asd.


Cool troll.


Not really, it is too obvious. And not even creative. Not even code B troll.

Nice, again a protoss opening void rays pressure. I like this build, the only problem is that i allways lose with it. I wanna leaaaaaaaarn.


If artosis had not been casting, noone in this thread would be hyping this guy seriosuly. I should really stop talking in this thread. Most people are just too unintelligent.


I've never said Sage was amazing. But I do say your affirmations on Asd, Boxer and Jinro are obvious troll. And after that you ask for intelligence ...

Btw if you are that intelligent just ignore people like me, or explain me why I'm wrong in a respectful manner.
gosuMalicE
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada676 Posts
July 01 2011 12:52 GMT
#2500
On July 01 2011 21:46 BlindDruid wrote:
<3 Forcefields..'sup - will contain you until you're mined out, here - i push this button"


Please keep balance whine out of the thread, there are multiple ways to break a ff contain.
I play Protoss, because lets face it, who doesn't love hyper-advanced Egyptian ninja-aliens that kill people with lightsabres attached to both arms?
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