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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 05:51:25
July 01 2011 05:50 GMT
#1261
MechvZ is interesting to watch, but it seems pretty easy to counter... mutas, infestors, broodlords.

But I guess the Koreans have probably practiced it (especially since its only like the IM Terrans who are doing it and they have Nestea and Losira to practice against) and might know how to handle mutas, infestors and BLs.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
July 01 2011 05:50 GMT
#1262
On July 01 2011 14:49 coolyou wrote:
infestor roach would've raped that mech build yugi chose to mass mutas which is the wrong move.


no its not, he executed poorly
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
July 01 2011 05:50 GMT
#1263
that into makes me laugh every time hahah
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Pwnographics
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand1097 Posts
July 01 2011 05:50 GMT
#1264
God that laugh...
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
July 01 2011 05:51 GMT
#1265
Glad I caught the happy intro, rofl.
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
July 01 2011 05:51 GMT
#1266
IMHappy, hahahahaha
can i get my estro logo back pls
spybreak
Profile Joined October 2010
United States684 Posts
July 01 2011 05:51 GMT
#1267
I would like to see Happy's response if the Zerg went Infestor/Broodlord tech but I guess Happy did not give him enough time to switch over to it.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
July 01 2011 05:51 GMT
#1268
Haha, Wolf can't admit his attraction to k-pop girls.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
July 01 2011 05:51 GMT
#1269
On July 01 2011 14:49 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 14:45 Dfgj wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:42 oogieogie wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:35 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:32 andaylin wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:31 minhbq299 wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:24 Olinim wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:23 asperger wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:22 Olinim wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:14 minhbq299 wrote:
PUzzle is fucking MC's class even better

Win a game vs sheth and now you're better than MC...lol.

It's a pretty ridiculous comparison, but he did beat MMA as well.

Yeah in a matchup he has a 41 percent winrate in.

I dont why you guys dont admit that Puzzle is S class player.
I dont say sheth is bad, but he got outplayed this game.
Stop coming up with excuses for your favorite player or race, while ignoring other guy play well
even MMA get outplayed by the kid.
And before the ro32, a lot of koreans pro predict puzzle will win mma, because puzzle have a scary reputation on ladder.

you dont need to call everything puzzle does "outplaying". going 8 gate blink stalkers isn't exactly outplaying. LOL


Wait, so if you go 8-gate blink, you're not outplaying, no matter how well you execute it? That's a pretty dumb notion you have there. If you didn't outplay your opponent when using 8-gate blink, then what was it? Sounds like you're doing a subtle balance whine.

if a toss goes 8 gate blink n zerg just droned the whole time and the toss just a moved n one that is outplaying? no that is the zerg being dumb.

also 7 gate or 8 gate blink so far does not seem at all outplaying because zerg just can't find a answer for it so until i guess i see it held i just figure it a super strong all in if not a little OP.

The answer is to play better and not lose a ton of stuff unnecessarily, how hard is this?

You think if I, a thoroughly non-pro level player, used that build on Sheth I'd get results? God no, he'd slap my shit, because I'm nothing compared to Puzzle.

you balance around the pros not the bronze league or the masters league. A better example i guess would be a idra vs MC@dreamhack or MLG i forgot game or idra vs huk@homestory or idk any other but there is probably tons of others. sry if it sounds harsh the league comment.

You're ignoring the fact that Puzzle looked to be the superior player in that series. Not all pros are even.

Damn, that last game was pretty good. Let's get a game three up in this set.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
July 01 2011 05:51 GMT
#1270
This last game was pretty good.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
July 01 2011 05:51 GMT
#1271
On July 01 2011 14:49 sAfuRos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 14:47 Dommk wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:45 sAfuRos wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:40 Dommk wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:38 sAfuRos wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:36 Dommk wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:32 sAfuRos wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:29 Ocedic wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:28 sAfuRos wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:26 DigitalisDestructi wrote:
[quote]
Maybe the blink cooldown has something to do with that.

No. I'm talking about stalkers in the front line that he blatantly missed when blinking backwards and were definitely not on cooldown.

His micro was average, certainly not impressive for a top progamer. The killer was the fact that he had 1000000000 blink stalkers vs roaches


Okay Mr. Godlike Blinker, go to Korea and show puzzle how it's done.


Ah, heres that flawless logic again. If you critique someone you must first be better than them.

And if you want me to be honest? I think i could have blinked better than that. I'm certain any good Protoss player you'll ask will agree that the blinks in that game were only average.
Not that they needed to be more. Puzzle didn't need immaculate blinks because he had overwhelming forces.
But this discussion originated from the fact that Puzzle also had 730 APM. Which is absolutely 500 APM of spam given what he was going. Blinking back groups and warping in efficiently takes 250 apm, tops, and even then youre still spamming clicks and x. Might take more if he wasl ike, maxed on stalkers, but there was only a moderate amount of stalkers to manage there

You keep saying that over and over and over.

But the fact of the matter is, if you look at any GOOD Protoss, i.e HuK vs MC, Xiaot vs MC, Puzzle vs San (during recent event), Puzzle vs Sheth, HuK vs Naniwa

Their APM's spike to absurd numbers during battles, you can keep down playing it all you want but I dare you to find me a Protoss at the level of Puzzle, XiaoT, MC, HuK who doesn't reach APM's of 350-500APM during battles.

I mean, MC vs XiaoT had a 400APM 4gate vs 4gate battle...you can assume all you want but the proof is in the pudding.


Way to talk about totally different things. 4 gate is extremely apm and micro intensive. Blink play is not nearly as much,

Oh, and also? Last time i checked, 400 apm was almost only HALF of 730 APM

I'd agree with you if the only thing he was doing was blinking, which he wasn't. He was microing Stalkers with blink off cooldown, managing gates and being extremely aggressive on top of it (not missing Stalker attack cooldowns etc)>

Also by 400APM I mean SC2 APM. Not real APM. Puzzle was hitting 550 SC2 APM


"Managing gates"? Come on guy, just think about what youre saying. "Managing gates" as in, every 32 seconds pressing w=>s=>click 8 times? That adds like, 30 apm.
Also, what the hell? "Being extremely agressive"? What? Like, you mean making his stalkers attack? Like, 1=>a=>click? Or is there some component to agressiveness that involves an addition 549 sc2 apm that i've missed in my gameplay?

All i'm trying to say is that for the quality of micro displayed, Puzzle was obscenely over the top with his apm and was spamming. Blink micro is one of the least apm intensive micro sets in the game as compared to mutalisks, 4 gate, stutter stepping, ht management, ghost management, spreading, rine spreading, etc.

You keep saying that over and over, show my a replay of a Protoss who does 7-8 gate Blink and doesn't hit 350-400+APM that is on the level of MC, Puzzle, HuK, XiaoT etc.

When LoveTT did his blink play against Morrow he was hitting 400+apm, HuK vs LaLush he was hovering in the 400APM's as well

"Just" microing Stalkers might take what you assume, but there is a LO MORE going on.


Sure, but what else was Puzzle doing? I've seen LoveTT's play and also HuK's; there was other shit they were doing. Puzzle was 100% all in. He didn't need to build more pylons, (he attacked with the highest supply and only fell, so he already had enough), didn't build more probes, didn't build more buildings, and didn't expand. So he didn't do shit at his base. So he literally only had to blink micro and warp in units.

Maybe CBing the gates and constantly checking the cool-down of gates? i dunno
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 01 2011 05:51 GMT
#1272
Booth girls.....

HOW IS THIS NOT ALREADY HAPPENING!?!?

I would try to be a pro player in an instant if T-ara gave massages to every GSL player.
twitch.tv/medrea
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
July 01 2011 05:51 GMT
#1273
I don't think I've seen much tvz on Crevasse, o.o Mostly Protoss on this map for some reason
can i get my estro logo back pls
AgentV
Profile Joined November 2010
United States159 Posts
July 01 2011 05:51 GMT
#1274
gogo yugioh, win fast so we can all watch Mr. Chin in action
Don Rag U
Rayansaki
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal1266 Posts
July 01 2011 05:52 GMT
#1275
On July 01 2011 14:50 Kavas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 14:48 RaiKageRyu wrote:
WoW

Mech won end game? Without winning in the first 2-1 push?

It helped a lot that the map was decent for it. Yugioh donated a dozen of mutalisks and a bunch of broodlords, forgot to make roaches and infestors with neural parasite.

Barring that and the fantasy gg timing, excellent excellent game.


I think we should start calling it slayers gg timing, since it's always the players from the same team :X A more modern approach
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse: IMNestea (Death), IMLosirA (Famine), IMmvp (War), IMFenix (Conquest)
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
July 01 2011 05:52 GMT
#1276
On July 01 2011 14:51 Medrea wrote:
Booth girls.....

HOW IS THIS NOT ALREADY HAPPENING!?!?

I would try to be a pro player in an instant if T-ara gave massages to every GSL player.

Well, you could play broodwar and ask the Stargirls nicely... :p
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
July 01 2011 05:52 GMT
#1277
On July 01 2011 14:51 Medrea wrote:
Booth girls.....

HOW IS THIS NOT ALREADY HAPPENING!?!?

I would try to be a pro player in an instant if T-ara gave massages to every GSL player.


The in-booth blowjob may become a reality. Believe.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
slicknav
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
July 01 2011 05:52 GMT
#1278
On July 01 2011 14:51 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Haha, Wolf can't admit his attraction to k-pop girls.


There's really no shame in it. Those girls are GORGEOUS!
blah blah blah...
dala
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden477 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 05:52:48
July 01 2011 05:52 GMT
#1279
On July 01 2011 11:34 pdd wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Schedule] +
[image loading]



The schedule in the OP is outdated.

This is how they do it:

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BlindDruid
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany653 Posts
July 01 2011 05:52 GMT
#1280
On July 01 2011 14:46 TheDougler wrote:
Great fucking game. Mech vs Z is my favorite matchup to watch. Hard to say what Yugioh coulda done differently tho...


Awesome game indeed.
As zergplayer myself - it always hurts to see these stealltrains kill these lovely living zergs.

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