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Rinny

United States616 Posts

July 01 2011 05:47 GMT

#1221

Not a good night for the swarm

PBJ

United States141 Posts

July 01 2011 05:47 GMT

#1222

On July 01 2011 14:47 Moonwrath wrote:
Fuuuuck I just got home and I missed Sheth. Can anyone give me a quick rundown of what happened to him?

Sheth got blunk

Al Bundy

7257 Posts

July 01 2011 05:47 GMT

#1223

GG!! Hellions, tanks, THORS destroying everything

statik

116 Posts

July 01 2011 05:47 GMT

#1224

that turned into a 1a situation for imhappy.

Tonttu

Finland606 Posts

July 01 2011 05:47 GMT

#1225

Sheth won! :D

Golgotha

Korea (South)8418 Posts

July 01 2011 05:47 GMT

#1226

sheth wins!!!

Dommk

Australia4865 Posts

July 01 2011 05:47 GMT

#1227

On July 01 2011 14:45 sAfuRos wrote:

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On July 01 2011 14:26 DigitalisDestructi wrote:

On July 01 2011 14:25 sAfuRos wrote:

On July 01 2011 14:24 forgottendreams wrote:
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Why do people always overhype blink stalker micro? It wasn't even that good, he often blinked back clumps of stalkers, a few of which didn't need to be blinked back yet.

This. And he lost a bunch of stalkers he shouldnt have by not blinking them back when he could have

Maybe the blink cooldown has something to do with that.

No. I'm talking about stalkers in the front line that he blatantly missed when blinking backwards and were definitely not on cooldown.

His micro was average, certainly not impressive for a top progamer. The killer was the fact that he had 1000000000 blink stalkers vs roaches

Okay Mr. Godlike Blinker, go to Korea and show puzzle how it's done.

Ah, heres that flawless logic again. If you critique someone you must first be better than them.

And if you want me to be honest? I think i could have blinked better than that. I'm certain any good Protoss player you'll ask will agree that the blinks in that game were only average.
Not that they needed to be more. Puzzle didn't need immaculate blinks because he had overwhelming forces.
But this discussion originated from the fact that Puzzle also had 730 APM. Which is absolutely 500 APM of spam given what he was going. Blinking back groups and warping in efficiently takes 250 apm, tops, and even then youre still spamming clicks and x. Might take more if he wasl ike, maxed on stalkers, but there was only a moderate amount of stalkers to manage there

You keep saying that over and over and over.

But the fact of the matter is, if you look at any GOOD Protoss, i.e HuK vs MC, Xiaot vs MC, Puzzle vs San (during recent event), Puzzle vs Sheth, HuK vs Naniwa

Their APM's spike to absurd numbers during battles, you can keep down playing it all you want but I dare you to find me a Protoss at the level of Puzzle, XiaoT, MC, HuK who doesn't reach APM's of 350-500APM during battles.

I mean, MC vs XiaoT had a 400APM 4gate vs 4gate battle...you can assume all you want but the proof is in the pudding.

Way to talk about totally different things. 4 gate is extremely apm and micro intensive. Blink play is not nearly as much,

Oh, and also? Last time i checked, 400 apm was almost only HALF of 730 APM

I'd agree with you if the only thing he was doing was blinking, which he wasn't. He was microing Stalkers with blink off cooldown, managing gates and being extremely aggressive on top of it (not missing Stalker attack cooldowns etc)>

Also by 400APM I mean SC2 APM. Not real APM. Puzzle was hitting 550 SC2 APM

"Managing gates"? Come on guy, just think about what youre saying. "Managing gates" as in, every 32 seconds pressing w=>s=>click 8 times? That adds like, 30 apm.
Also, what the hell? "Being extremely agressive"? What? Like, you mean making his stalkers attack? Like, 1=>a=>click? Or is there some component to agressiveness that involves an addition 549 sc2 apm that i've missed in my gameplay?

All i'm trying to say is that for the quality of micro displayed, Puzzle was obscenely over the top with his apm and was spamming. Blink micro is one of the least apm intensive micro sets in the game as compared to mutalisks, 4 gate, stutter stepping, ht management, ghost management, spreading, rine spreading, etc.

You keep saying that over and over, show me a replay of a Protoss who does 7-8 gate Blink and doesn't hit 350-400+APM that is on the level of MC, Puzzle, HuK, XiaoT etc.

When LoveTT did his blink play against Morrow he was hitting 400+apm, HuK vs LaLush he was hovering in the 400APM's as well

"Just" microing Stalkers might take what you assume, but there is a LOT MORE going on.

Midgetman101

United States825 Posts

July 01 2011 05:47 GMT

#1228

Thank god i love to see beautiful mech work

Scila

Canada1849 Posts

July 01 2011 05:47 GMT

#1229

"win Sheth" ?_?

Phyxx

Denmark681 Posts

July 01 2011 05:48 GMT

#1230

Great Game.

Deserex

United States317 Posts

July 01 2011 05:48 GMT

#1231

Sick mech play from happy.

RaiKageRyu

Canada4773 Posts

July 01 2011 05:48 GMT

#1232

WoW

Mech won end game? Without winning in the first 2-1 push?

Moonwrath

United States9568 Posts

July 01 2011 05:48 GMT

#1233

On July 01 2011 14:47 PBJ wrote:

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Sheth got blunk

Ahhh damn =(

bbQ4Aiur

Hong Kong2752 Posts

July 01 2011 05:48 GMT

#1234

Happy remax his army so fast after losing the first attack

minhbq299

United Kingdom566 Posts

July 01 2011 05:48 GMT

#1235

On July 01 2011 14:45 sAfuRos wrote:

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On July 01 2011 14:40 Dommk wrote:

On July 01 2011 14:38 sAfuRos wrote:

On July 01 2011 14:36 Dommk wrote:

On July 01 2011 14:32 sAfuRos wrote:

On July 01 2011 14:29 Ocedic wrote:

On July 01 2011 14:28 sAfuRos wrote:

On July 01 2011 14:26 DigitalisDestructi wrote:

On July 01 2011 14:25 sAfuRos wrote:

This. And he lost a bunch of stalkers he shouldnt have by not blinking them back when he could have

Maybe the blink cooldown has something to do with that.

Okay Mr. Godlike Blinker, go to Korea and show puzzle how it's done.

Way to talk about totally different things. 4 gate is extremely apm and micro intensive. Blink play is not nearly as much,

Oh, and also? Last time i checked, 400 apm was almost only HALF of 730 APM

Did you watch game 1 at all.
Puzzle showed fucking good defence while harrass at once.
His calmness show in game 1 earn me some loyal at least

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Do not know why you guys do not admit sheth got outplayed in 2 GAMES

Kettchup

United States1911 Posts

July 01 2011 05:48 GMT

#1236

On July 01 2011 14:45 schmutttt wrote:
And this is why mass muta isn't great against mech.

Yes he won the initial battle but he lost ALL the mutas and is still refusing to make roaches in any form. If he had just gone roach infestor into broods he could have just kept reinforcing and broken Happy.

To be fair, he had a good dozen mutas left over after the initial battle. Ended up throwing them all away against the reinforcing Thors after for no reason.

blade55555

United States17423 Posts

July 01 2011 05:48 GMT

#1237

On July 01 2011 14:46 travis wrote:

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id rather have a carrier than a viking

id rather have a mothership then a carrier.

ChickenLips

2912 Posts

July 01 2011 05:48 GMT

#1238

Happy's quite decent, some early mistakes, but I liked his play overall

Dunno why Terrans refuse to switch into Marines when they're floating >1k anyways