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Rinny
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States616 Posts
July 01 2011 05:47 GMT
#1221
Not a good night for the swarm
Where my swarm at? Ye Yeee
PBJ
Profile Joined August 2010
United States141 Posts
July 01 2011 05:47 GMT
#1222
On July 01 2011 14:47 Moonwrath wrote:
Fuuuuck I just got home and I missed Sheth. Can anyone give me a quick rundown of what happened to him?


Sheth got blunk
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
July 01 2011 05:47 GMT
#1223
GG!! Hellions, tanks, THORS destroying everything
o choro é livre
statik
Profile Joined January 2011
116 Posts
July 01 2011 05:47 GMT
#1224
that turned into a 1a situation for imhappy.
maddecent
Tonttu
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland606 Posts
July 01 2011 05:47 GMT
#1225
Sheth won! :D
Naama, the #1 Conductor! | Slayers, Fnatic and Mouz | Naama, MMA and ForGG |
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
July 01 2011 05:47 GMT
#1226
sheth wins!!!
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 05:49:33
July 01 2011 05:47 GMT
#1227
On July 01 2011 14:45 sAfuRos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 14:40 Dommk wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:38 sAfuRos wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:36 Dommk wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:32 sAfuRos wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:29 Ocedic wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:28 sAfuRos wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:26 DigitalisDestructi wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:25 sAfuRos wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:24 forgottendreams wrote:
[quote]

Why do people always overhype blink stalker micro? It wasn't even that good, he often blinked back clumps of stalkers, a few of which didn't need to be blinked back yet.


This. And he lost a bunch of stalkers he shouldnt have by not blinking them back when he could have

Maybe the blink cooldown has something to do with that.

No. I'm talking about stalkers in the front line that he blatantly missed when blinking backwards and were definitely not on cooldown.

His micro was average, certainly not impressive for a top progamer. The killer was the fact that he had 1000000000 blink stalkers vs roaches


Okay Mr. Godlike Blinker, go to Korea and show puzzle how it's done.


Ah, heres that flawless logic again. If you critique someone you must first be better than them.

And if you want me to be honest? I think i could have blinked better than that. I'm certain any good Protoss player you'll ask will agree that the blinks in that game were only average.
Not that they needed to be more. Puzzle didn't need immaculate blinks because he had overwhelming forces.
But this discussion originated from the fact that Puzzle also had 730 APM. Which is absolutely 500 APM of spam given what he was going. Blinking back groups and warping in efficiently takes 250 apm, tops, and even then youre still spamming clicks and x. Might take more if he wasl ike, maxed on stalkers, but there was only a moderate amount of stalkers to manage there

You keep saying that over and over and over.

But the fact of the matter is, if you look at any GOOD Protoss, i.e HuK vs MC, Xiaot vs MC, Puzzle vs San (during recent event), Puzzle vs Sheth, HuK vs Naniwa

Their APM's spike to absurd numbers during battles, you can keep down playing it all you want but I dare you to find me a Protoss at the level of Puzzle, XiaoT, MC, HuK who doesn't reach APM's of 350-500APM during battles.

I mean, MC vs XiaoT had a 400APM 4gate vs 4gate battle...you can assume all you want but the proof is in the pudding.


Way to talk about totally different things. 4 gate is extremely apm and micro intensive. Blink play is not nearly as much,

Oh, and also? Last time i checked, 400 apm was almost only HALF of 730 APM

I'd agree with you if the only thing he was doing was blinking, which he wasn't. He was microing Stalkers with blink off cooldown, managing gates and being extremely aggressive on top of it (not missing Stalker attack cooldowns etc)>

Also by 400APM I mean SC2 APM. Not real APM. Puzzle was hitting 550 SC2 APM


"Managing gates"? Come on guy, just think about what youre saying. "Managing gates" as in, every 32 seconds pressing w=>s=>click 8 times? That adds like, 30 apm.
Also, what the hell? "Being extremely agressive"? What? Like, you mean making his stalkers attack? Like, 1=>a=>click? Or is there some component to agressiveness that involves an addition 549 sc2 apm that i've missed in my gameplay?

All i'm trying to say is that for the quality of micro displayed, Puzzle was obscenely over the top with his apm and was spamming. Blink micro is one of the least apm intensive micro sets in the game as compared to mutalisks, 4 gate, stutter stepping, ht management, ghost management, spreading, rine spreading, etc.

You keep saying that over and over, show me a replay of a Protoss who does 7-8 gate Blink and doesn't hit 350-400+APM that is on the level of MC, Puzzle, HuK, XiaoT etc.

When LoveTT did his blink play against Morrow he was hitting 400+apm, HuK vs LaLush he was hovering in the 400APM's as well

"Just" microing Stalkers might take what you assume, but there is a LOT MORE going on.
Midgetman101
Profile Joined February 2011
United States825 Posts
July 01 2011 05:47 GMT
#1228
Thank god i love to see beautiful mech work
~Terran For Life~
Scila
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1849 Posts
July 01 2011 05:47 GMT
#1229
"win Sheth" ?_?
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
Phyxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark681 Posts
July 01 2011 05:48 GMT
#1230
Great Game.
Deserex
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
July 01 2011 05:48 GMT
#1231
Sick mech play from happy.
"If you can chill, chill." - Liquid'Nony
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
July 01 2011 05:48 GMT
#1232
WoW

Mech won end game? Without winning in the first 2-1 push?
Someone call down the Thunder?
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
July 01 2011 05:48 GMT
#1233
On July 01 2011 14:47 PBJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 14:47 Moonwrath wrote:
Fuuuuck I just got home and I missed Sheth. Can anyone give me a quick rundown of what happened to him?


Sheth got blunk

Ahhh damn =(
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
July 01 2011 05:48 GMT
#1234
Happy remax his army so fast after losing the first attack
minhbq299
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom566 Posts
July 01 2011 05:48 GMT
#1235
On July 01 2011 14:45 sAfuRos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 14:40 Dommk wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:38 sAfuRos wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:36 Dommk wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:32 sAfuRos wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:29 Ocedic wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:28 sAfuRos wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:26 DigitalisDestructi wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:25 sAfuRos wrote:
On July 01 2011 14:24 forgottendreams wrote:
[quote]

Why do people always overhype blink stalker micro? It wasn't even that good, he often blinked back clumps of stalkers, a few of which didn't need to be blinked back yet.


This. And he lost a bunch of stalkers he shouldnt have by not blinking them back when he could have

Maybe the blink cooldown has something to do with that.

No. I'm talking about stalkers in the front line that he blatantly missed when blinking backwards and were definitely not on cooldown.

His micro was average, certainly not impressive for a top progamer. The killer was the fact that he had 1000000000 blink stalkers vs roaches


Okay Mr. Godlike Blinker, go to Korea and show puzzle how it's done.


Ah, heres that flawless logic again. If you critique someone you must first be better than them.

And if you want me to be honest? I think i could have blinked better than that. I'm certain any good Protoss player you'll ask will agree that the blinks in that game were only average.
Not that they needed to be more. Puzzle didn't need immaculate blinks because he had overwhelming forces.
But this discussion originated from the fact that Puzzle also had 730 APM. Which is absolutely 500 APM of spam given what he was going. Blinking back groups and warping in efficiently takes 250 apm, tops, and even then youre still spamming clicks and x. Might take more if he wasl ike, maxed on stalkers, but there was only a moderate amount of stalkers to manage there

You keep saying that over and over and over.

But the fact of the matter is, if you look at any GOOD Protoss, i.e HuK vs MC, Xiaot vs MC, Puzzle vs San (during recent event), Puzzle vs Sheth, HuK vs Naniwa

Their APM's spike to absurd numbers during battles, you can keep down playing it all you want but I dare you to find me a Protoss at the level of Puzzle, XiaoT, MC, HuK who doesn't reach APM's of 350-500APM during battles.

I mean, MC vs XiaoT had a 400APM 4gate vs 4gate battle...you can assume all you want but the proof is in the pudding.


Way to talk about totally different things. 4 gate is extremely apm and micro intensive. Blink play is not nearly as much,

Oh, and also? Last time i checked, 400 apm was almost only HALF of 730 APM

I'd agree with you if the only thing he was doing was blinking, which he wasn't. He was microing Stalkers with blink off cooldown, managing gates and being extremely aggressive on top of it (not missing Stalker attack cooldowns etc)>

Also by 400APM I mean SC2 APM. Not real APM. Puzzle was hitting 550 SC2 APM


"Managing gates"? Come on guy, just think about what youre saying. "Managing gates" as in, every 32 seconds pressing w=>s=>click 8 times? That adds like, 30 apm.
Also, what the hell? "Being extremely agressive"? What? Like, you mean making his stalkers attack? Like, 1=>a=>click? Or is there some component to agressiveness that involves an addition 549 sc2 apm that i've missed in my gameplay?

All i'm trying to say is that for the quality of micro displayed, Puzzle was obscenely over the top with his apm and was spamming. Blink micro is one of the least apm intensive micro sets in the game as compared to mutalisks, 4 gate, stutter stepping, ht management, ghost management, spreading, rine spreading, etc.

Did you watch game 1 at all.
Puzzle showed fucking good defence while harrass at once.
His calmness show in game 1 earn me some loyal at least .
Do not know why you guys do not admit sheth got outplayed in 2 GAMES
SlayerS_Puzzle, oGsMC, Liquid'Hero, FXOz, ST.Parting, , NSHoseoJjakji, SlayerS_CoCa, DRG
Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
July 01 2011 05:48 GMT
#1236
On July 01 2011 14:45 schmutttt wrote:
And this is why mass muta isn't great against mech.

Yes he won the initial battle but he lost ALL the mutas and is still refusing to make roaches in any form. If he had just gone roach infestor into broods he could have just kept reinforcing and broken Happy.


To be fair, he had a good dozen mutas left over after the initial battle. Ended up throwing them all away against the reinforcing Thors after for no reason.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
July 01 2011 05:48 GMT
#1237
On July 01 2011 14:46 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 14:45 Golgotha wrote:


id rather have vikings than corrputers...


id rather have a carrier than a viking


id rather have a mothership then a carrier.
When I think of something else, something will go here
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
July 01 2011 05:48 GMT
#1238
Happy's quite decent, some early mistakes, but I liked his play overall

Dunno why Terrans refuse to switch into Marines when they're floating >1k anyways
❤Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ✿
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
July 01 2011 05:48 GMT
#1239
Sheth did it!
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
July 01 2011 05:48 GMT
#1240
On July 01 2011 14:46 PlosionCornu wrote:
Is this broodwar...


Nope.

If this was BW, Happy would only need one mech army.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
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