[GSTL] Jupiter Group Week 2 - Page 67

On June 30 2011 21:48 pdd wrote:

No, this is flat out wrong. If he lost 3 Bo3s in a row, I might agree with you. He's however only lost a total of 3 single games. (now that I've checked TLPD, seems like he's on a 7 game losing streak, which might be a bit of a slump... but we'll get back to this later.). Anyway losing 3 separate Bo1s does not imply a slump.

It would be similar to anyone losing 2-0 in a Bo3 and then losing one game in the GSTL. How exactly is losing 2 separate series a slump? And comparing SC2 with football is not a very good comparison. Football games are pure Bo1s (until the playoffs if I'm correct). SC2 games are built on a series of sets, similar to tennis. Also SC2 is a lot more volatile in a sense that in football the chances of the better team winning is higher.

Now to get back to whether MKP's 7 game losing streak is a slump, remember that 3 of the losses were against MMA after being 2-0 up. So he went from losing an extremely close match to MMA (who at that time was in his prime), to losing a Bo3, then losing another "technical" Bo3, then losing a closely fought Bo1 to PuMa. That's 4 separate series, 2 of which were rather close. I would hardly call that a slump.

On June 30 2011 21:58 Femari wrote:

I wouldn't call 2 series a slump. In fact I never said two series would be a slump. But looking at his play lately and looking at his results as well, he is in a slump right now. He's made quite a few mistakes and hasn't been playing too well.

But remember, MKP always goes into a slump after getting far in a GSL. He's been doing this since January.

And I don't think you understood the football reference. In the NFL there is a thing called the Superbowl hangover in which after you win the Superbowl or get to it, you don't perform as well next season. Which in MKP's case is pretty much spot on with what happens with him. I mean look at it.

January GSL? 2nd place.
March? Doesn't make it out of groups.
WCs? 2nd place.
May? Doesn't make it out of groups.
ST? Bo4.
July? Doesn't make it out of groups.

This is the classic MKP slump that's been happening all year.

Also I meant to say matches instead of days in my last post.

On June 30 2011 22:12 IceSlipper wrote:
Why do people care so much about clear-cut definitions of words.. MKP has lost 7 games in a row.. Rather than type 'MKP has lost 7 games in a row' every single time somebody mentions it, they prefer to use the term 'slump'..

Someone said MKP is in a slump, you dont agree, big deal.. He has lost 7 games in a row whether he is in a 'slump' or not..

This is not journalism, its a LR thread..

On June 30 2011 14:51 Daiki wrote:
tsl is fcked

On June 30 2011 22:19 pdd wrote:

I wouldn't say it's a slump still. It's more of just the general state of SC2 where top players still struggle to dominate over long periods of times due to just how many top tier players there are. I still think a slump is a consistent and noticeable drop in form, in which 3 series are hardly enough to make any conclusion on.


Well, it was a friendly discussion where there wasn't any flaming or aggression involved.

Anyway, I've sort of made my point, so I'm leaving this debate.

On June 30 2011 22:46 sylverfyre wrote:
Man, who is this PuMa guy and what did he do to my beloved Prime clan?

On June 30 2011 22:49 pdd wrote:

PuMa was a former BW B-teamer on eSTRO, who was always hyped for being extremely good and having the potential to be a top tier players. He was one of the most notable practice partners in BW and people like Flash would practice with him.

He had one problem though. He had nerve issues which prevented him from being very successful both in BW and SC2.

On June 30 2011 22:58 mordek wrote:

Looks like that's about to change!

On June 30 2011 23:02 PredY wrote:
could anyone tell me whether puma played in any kind of tournaments recently from which i could dl his reps?

On June 30 2011 23:03 pdd wrote:

I wouldn't be so quick to say so. He's been playing SC2 for a long time already and has appeared in previous GSTLs before. He's been active since around GSL 2 or 3 and has never made it. But he's been having a very good streak recently, so maybe next Code A?


NASL Open Tournament, iCCup NationVoice tournaments.

On June 30 2011 23:02 PredY wrote:
could anyone tell me whether puma played in any kind of tournaments recently from which i could dl his reps?

On June 30 2011 20:13 WArped wrote:
Is this a bash at MMA? Where do you get off on this stuff? What has MMA got to do with Puma.