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Sadly it seems I have to put this up yet again. Any of the following types of posts will be met with immediate bans: Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining/Off topic arguing. Stick to the games and enjoy the event and its free services and coverage. | ||
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StimMarine
723 Posts
On June 20 2011 20:52 Maenander wrote: There is no foreigner style of training at all. LOL funny but true. exactly what i meant earlier when i said that training like the koreans won't be enough for foreigners if they aren't training INSIDE korea WITH koreans. | ||
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ForTheDr3am
842 Posts
On June 20 2011 20:51 hifriend wrote: It's annoying seeing him cruise through an easy group then bracket followed by july playing terribly. Superior protoss' like MC/Nani/White-Ra got tough opponents throughout the tournament and performed equally well without blindly going dt's half the time, yet now half the people in this thread are talking about huk as if he's suddenly the best protoss on the planet. Sigh. From what can you conclude that Naniwa and White-Ra are better than Huk? I mean, they both went 0-2 vs Moon while Huk won 2-0 against him. Huk has dropped a single game in this tournament, what should he have done better? | ||
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Loxley
Netherlands2480 Posts
On June 20 2011 20:52 Nerdslayer wrote: wtf are you talking about Messi is a product of the argentinians football school. You have no idea wtf you talking about Brazil and Argentina got some of the best football schools in the world. Jesus crist some of you people just plain silly Messi got to barcelona at the age of 12.. But i don't get all this korean/foreigner discussions.. I like playing starcraft, and i love watching pro's play it alot better than me. Like i enjoy football but i love to watch barcelona. I got a free stream here which entertains me for almost 3 days now, i just wanna see epic fights between pro's. Regardless of nationality. | ||
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Nerdslayer
Denmark1130 Posts
So you got no idea how the argentina schools work. The best players from age 5-6 get recruited into those schools. Messi was allrdy a wunderkid when he was 13 just like Maradona was when he was 10. just like Ronaldo was when he was 15 and moved to Amsterdam Plz stop talking about football stick to sc2 | ||
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Hemula
Russian Federation1849 Posts
I MISS THEM DREAMHACK! | ||
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WArped
United Kingdom4845 Posts
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
Poor moon  | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On June 20 2011 20:52 Nerdslayer wrote: wtf are you talking about Messi is a product of the argentinians football school. You have no idea wtf you talking about Brazil and Argentina got some of the best football schools in the world. Jesus crist some of you people just plain silly No he's not. Had he not joined Barcelona Messi would not have been half the player he is today due to medical problems and much of his growth he received while it the Barcelona academy. Remember he joined at the age of 13(!) | ||
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bennyaus
Australia1833 Posts
On June 20 2011 20:54 Yaotzin wrote: Does anyone seriously think that foreigner training regimes and ladder/talent pool is not vastly inferior to the Koreans'? I'm pretty sure everyone is aware of it, just that nobody talks about it because they don't want to have to justify not going to Korea to get better (because they care more about prizemoney than being the best, or becoming good). | ||
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Klaas
Slovenia86 Posts
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manloveman
424 Posts
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Moonwrath
United States9568 Posts
On June 20 2011 20:52 Maenander wrote: There is no foreigner style of training at all. Of course there is, streaming your ladder games for a couple hours every other day. | ||
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Seditary
Australia7033 Posts
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Zaurus
Singapore676 Posts
On June 20 2011 20:48 Fionn wrote: But Huk finishing so high just reinforces the fact that the Korean infrastructure is superior by miles to everyone else. The only foreign player to beat a Korean this weekend in the tournament was the guy who lives and trains with the oGs team. I think people look at the whole scene debate by just color of skin or how they look instead of where they play/practice. Having a coach, the living environment, schedule, and people like MC, Nada, and TOP around will make you a much better play. Ever since Idra left Korea, he's regressed mightily while Huk has become better and better. I am sure if Naniwa and Thorzain stay in Korea for a long amount of time and can practice with a Korean proteam, they'll also improve leaps and bounds. You need to be a genius to be good with minimal training. I can't wait to see the improvement of Naniwa and Thorzain. There is really nothing to prove here actually. Training in Korean is probably the best way to improve your skills for NOW. The skill ceilings there are much higher and everybody treat SC2 like a professional sports. So what if the price money is higher in the west, if you are truly serious about getting good in SC2, you NEED to go Korean.End of story We should all stop arguing about where the person originated from, it is ridiculously stupid. | ||
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coko
United Kingdom570 Posts
Huk has gained more skill from living in Korea, and it can be argued doing so made him a better player that what he would of been by staying in Canada, but you cannot be sure. If he had lost, would he of been a foreigner then? Is it just that he a beat a korean player that he gets labelled as one? ... | ||
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TYJ.Aoy
Brazil1265 Posts
On June 20 2011 20:46 Gheizen64 wrote: This topic is so stupid to read. Suddendly people think the nation where you play has to determine your nationality. It isn't like this in ANY sport, so please stfu. If people move to a nation with better infrastructures for training they don't change nationality. Messi and Ronaldo aren't spanish , they play in spanish teams. Same goes for Huk, he isn't Korean for the mother of god, he play in a korean team. I couldn't care less about who win but the fanboysm in this thread is making me puke. You couldn't quite get the original argument which is whether foreigners can take on koreans, which means "can players outside of korea win against players training in korea?".It's not the fanboyism that is puke-inducing here, but your lack of neurons, the players nationality is completely irrelevant for all intent and purposes (perhaps not for controversial national pride). | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On June 20 2011 20:56 Moonwrath wrote: Of course there is, streaming your ladder games. greatest comment in this entire thread *clap* | ||
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Chvol
United States200 Posts
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Imres
515 Posts
On June 20 2011 20:55 bennyaus wrote: I'm pretty sure everyone is aware of it, just that nobody talks about it because they don't want to have to justify not going to Korea to get better (because they care more about prizemoney than being the best, or becoming good). Which prize money? Seems to me that except for weekly cups foreigners don't taste it so much... | ||
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leviathan20
United Kingdom193 Posts
On June 20 2011 20:52 Logo2010 wrote: Amen Brother! Just look at the results, Idra has dropped waay down since he left Korea and iNcontroL hasn't accomplished much at the top. Exactly. And that's the difference between those who really want to practice hard and be the best, and those who are just in it for the money. | ||
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