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Sadly it seems I have to put this up yet again. Any of the following types of posts will be met with immediate bans:

Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining/Off topic arguing.

Stick to the games and enjoy the event and its free services and coverage.
Nivity
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden371 Posts
June 20 2011 11:50 GMT
#3221
On June 20 2011 20:45 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 20:44 Nivity wrote:
On June 20 2011 20:41 Shalaiyn wrote:
http://twitter.com/#!/ScribeDPO/status/82774763633778688
Does anyone know if this is true lol


Yes its true.
Huk requested that he wanted to play TSL_alive because he wanted an easier opponent.

MC took bomber because he wanted a rematch (MC never scared!)

Bomber was the only person left when "MC" got to pick, though no doubt thewind would have picked him for him anyway


Yepp.
Nevarix
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden294 Posts
June 20 2011 11:50 GMT
#3222
On June 20 2011 20:47 tdt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 20:42 Asha` wrote:
On June 20 2011 20:41 Shalaiyn wrote:
http://twitter.com/#!/ScribeDPO/status/82774763633778688
Does anyone know if this is true lol


MC definitely called TheWind after his loss, and MC's pick for the groups did end up being Bomber so...

xD

MC is crazy. Part of winning a tournament like GSL is luck of not running into people that can beat you. Why make run harder on purpose?

Baller tho.


It wasnt really that simple. It was only two groups left, Huk had the first pick between aLive and Bomber, but he was busy playing, so MC called Thewind and told him to pick Bomber for himself, and aLive for Huk.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
June 20 2011 11:51 GMT
#3223
Another foreign tournament where Korean trained starcraft 2 players take the top 3. IEM, MLG, and now Dreamhack Summer. A korean trained starcraft player also won Copenhagen and Dreamhack invitational.
Don't mind me
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
June 20 2011 11:51 GMT
#3224
On June 20 2011 20:46 Gheizen64 wrote:
This topic is so stupid to read.

Suddendly people think the nation where you play has to determine your nationality. It isn't like this in ANY sport, so please stfu. If people move to a nation with better infrastructures for training they don't change nationality. Messi and Ronaldo aren't spanish , they play in spanish teams. Same goes for Huk, he isn't Korean for the mother of god, he play in a korean team.

I couldn't care less about who win but the fanboysm in this thread is making me puke.


Only a few clueless people thinks nationality is the focus of discussion, this including you. What people are saying is the training style of Korean versus the foreigners, which still stands and clearly proven when the top 4 players all undergo the Korean style training.
Leenock the Punisher
Paradice
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand431 Posts
June 20 2011 11:51 GMT
#3225
On June 20 2011 20:48 StimMarine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 20:46 Paradice wrote:
On June 20 2011 20:45 snafoo wrote:
Ok, so how many hours from now is the finals meant to be? With these massive breaks why on earth couldn't these later games be Bo5's....


Ahh, a fellow kiwi.. finals start at 12:30am our time


Actually it's 4.30AM for the grand finals in NZ time.


Oh no, you mean the next semi final is the next match? Damn I assumed it was being played at the same time and the next would be the final

Thanks! That means I'm off to bed and will have to play the dodge -twitter -facebook -TL game tomorrow until I can get to the VODs!
matko5
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia385 Posts
June 20 2011 11:51 GMT
#3226
On June 20 2011 20:49 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 20:48 StimMarine wrote:
On June 20 2011 20:46 Paradice wrote:
On June 20 2011 20:45 snafoo wrote:
Ok, so how many hours from now is the finals meant to be? With these massive breaks why on earth couldn't these later games be Bo5's....


Ahh, a fellow kiwi.. finals start at 12:30am our time


Actually it's 4.30AM for the grand finals in NZ time.

Exam tomorrow at 2pm FUCK YEAH


that's like the whole night plus morning for studying
Disi gazda
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
June 20 2011 11:51 GMT
#3227
On June 20 2011 20:49 SeriouR wrote:
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On June 20 2011 20:46 ChickenLips wrote:
Well second place in a tournament with decent Koreans is a huge achievement for a TeamLiquid member anyways.

No way HuK will beat Bomber, the guy has way too refined macro and decision making in TvP.


People said that he was not oging to get july in any world and there he is in the finals. Let them be played before claiming he is second.


I bet a rather large amount on HuK vs July.

July is playing like crap.
HuK is playing decently.
Bomber is playing better than the 2 combined.
❤Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ✿
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
June 20 2011 11:51 GMT
#3228
On June 20 2011 20:50 Crazyeyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 20:47 Xpace wrote:
Ok, enough. Despite his oGs training, his GSL experience, his obvious MC-"inspired" builds, fine. He's a foreigner. Let's not start this ridiculous debate again. Foreigners should have their chance to cheer on their flavor of the month champion. I'm saying flavor of the month because prior to Dreamhack, if I said HuK was the best foreign Protoss, everyone would laugh and say NANIWHAT? I get it, I get it, you're excited because a foreigner beat a Korean. Just goes to show how big of a deal it is, and how truly behind the foreign scene is, that when one of us beats a Korean, we suddenly crown him the champion, the tip of the foreign spear. Makes sense, I get it.

Too bad Bomber will steamroll HuK. Calling it now.

To be fair, everyone does the same with Koreans. MVP won? Best in the world. Nestea won? Best in the world.
Even though it doesnt take long for them to fall right back down.

SC2 is pretty volatile.


That's why we need Flash and Jaedong to switch over so these discussions will end about who's best and who's not. Two years is a long wait though :\
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
June 20 2011 11:51 GMT
#3229
On June 20 2011 20:47 ondik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 20:40 hifriend wrote:
That was some remarkably bad play by july, but spire vs blink is always a tough situation so..

At least I get to see bomber own him in the finals (seriously no chance for huk vs bomber)..


dude..you already said you dislike HuK for being arrogant (what's interesting to me as you apparently like MC), why more hatred?

It's annoying seeing him cruise through an easy group then bracket followed by july playing terribly. Superior protoss' like MC/Nani/White-Ra got tough opponents throughout the tournament and performed equally well without blindly going dt's half the time, yet now half the people in this thread are talking about huk as if he's suddenly the best protoss on the planet. Sigh.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 11:53:29
June 20 2011 11:52 GMT
#3230
So who do you think will win DHS?
Poll: Who will win DHS?

Bomber (66)
 
68%

Huk (24)
 
25%

Moon (7)
 
7%

97 total votes

Your vote: Who will win DHS?

(Vote): Huk
(Vote): Bomber
(Vote): Moon



Who do you WANT to win?
Poll: Who do you WANT to win?

Huk (26)
 
48%

Bomber (21)
 
39%

Moon (7)
 
13%

54 total votes

Your vote: Who do you WANT to win?

(Vote): Huk
(Vote): Moon
(Vote): Bomber



bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
June 20 2011 11:52 GMT
#3231
On June 20 2011 20:50 Crazyeyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 20:47 Xpace wrote:
Ok, enough. Despite his oGs training, his GSL experience, his obvious MC-"inspired" builds, fine. He's a foreigner. Let's not start this ridiculous debate again. Foreigners should have their chance to cheer on their flavor of the month champion. I'm saying flavor of the month because prior to Dreamhack, if I said HuK was the best foreign Protoss, everyone would laugh and say NANIWHAT? I get it, I get it, you're excited because a foreigner beat a Korean. Just goes to show how big of a deal it is, and how truly behind the foreign scene is, that when one of us beats a Korean, we suddenly crown him the champion, the tip of the foreign spear. Makes sense, I get it.

Too bad Bomber will steamroll HuK. Calling it now.

To be fair, everyone does the same with Koreans. MVP won? Best in the world. Nestea won? Best in the world.
Even though it doesnt take long for them to fall right back down.

SC2 is pretty volatile.


It isn't volatile. There just aren't any players who are good enough to dominate for a long period of time yet. Imagine the BW scene without Flash and Jaedong. Tournaments would be going to completely different people each time as well (Omg Fantasy is the best, now it's Hydra, now it's Zero, now it's Stork)
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
June 20 2011 11:52 GMT
#3232
On June 20 2011 20:45 Rinnegan5 wrote:
I am just really glad koreans dont get first second and third place. Huk keeping up the pride for the foreigners! I dont know how others feel but only koreans finishing top places was getting old really fast.

When we compare foreigners vs koreans, we're talking about the sc2 scene. Huk lives, plays, and competes in the Korean scene, and is therefore a player in the Korean scene.

So for all intended purposes for discussions, playes from the Koreans scene are still taking first second and third (and fourth). And this whole tournament just again shows how much better the Korean SC2 scene is compared to the foreigner scene.
Nivity
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden371 Posts
June 20 2011 11:52 GMT
#3233
I am kinda rooting for Huk, he need all the condifence in the world going into Code-S this season.
A win here would do him good.

Something Jinro would need to get out of his slump he have been in ever since his last Semi finals in code-s ;/

Rasky
Profile Joined July 2010
United States406 Posts
June 20 2011 11:52 GMT
#3234
I'm so happy for Canada and for Huk .
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
June 20 2011 11:52 GMT
#3235
On June 20 2011 20:51 furymonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 20:46 Gheizen64 wrote:
This topic is so stupid to read.

Suddendly people think the nation where you play has to determine your nationality. It isn't like this in ANY sport, so please stfu. If people move to a nation with better infrastructures for training they don't change nationality. Messi and Ronaldo aren't spanish , they play in spanish teams. Same goes for Huk, he isn't Korean for the mother of god, he play in a korean team.

I couldn't care less about who win but the fanboysm in this thread is making me puke.


Only a few clueless people thinks nationality is the focus of discussion, this including you. What people are saying is the training style of Korean versus the foreigners, which still stands and clearly proven when the top 4 players all undergo the Korean style training.

There is no foreigner style of training at all.
Nerdslayer
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1130 Posts
June 20 2011 11:52 GMT
#3236
On June 20 2011 20:49 lunchforthesky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 20:46 Gheizen64 wrote:
This topic is so stupid to read.

Suddendly people think the nation where you play has to determine your nationality. It isn't like this in ANY sport, so please stfu. If people move to a nation with better infrastructures for training they don't change nationality. Messi and Ronaldo aren't spanish , they play in spanish teams. Same goes for Huk, he isn't Korean for the mother of god, he play in a korean team.

I couldn't care less about who win but the fanboysm in this thread is making me puke.


Messi plays a Spanish style of football though, even Argentinians say that while Messi is an Argentine national he is a product of Spanish football.

Just like Huk is a Canandian but is a product of Korean Starcraft.


wtf are you talking about Messi is a product of the argentinians football school.

You have no idea wtf you talking about Brazil and Argentina got some of the best football schools in the world.

Jesus crist some of you people just plain silly

User was temp banned for this post.
D_bo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States50 Posts
June 20 2011 11:52 GMT
#3237
welcome to the hype machine, still gg tho
Logo2010
Profile Joined October 2010
509 Posts
June 20 2011 11:52 GMT
#3238
On June 20 2011 20:48 ChickenLips wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 20:46 Gheizen64 wrote:
This topic is so stupid to read.

Suddendly people think the nation where you play has to determine your nationality. It isn't like this in ANY sport, so please stfu. If people move to a nation with better infrastructures for training they don't change nationality. Messi and Ronaldo isn't spanish , they play in spanish teams. Same goes for Huk, he isn't Korean for the mother of god, he play in a korean team.

I couldn't care less about who win but the fanboysm in this thread is making me puke.


Yeah and it isn't about nationality but practice environment / scene.

People like iNcontroL and IdrA have been spouting nonsense like "Korea isn't the place to be"

Bullshit.

Yeah if you wanna feast on the scraps and be a B-class player, stay in the US or wherever, but if you wanna take the big tournies and be the best player you can be there is absolutely no alternative to going to Korea.

Amen Brother! Just look at the results, Idra has dropped waay down since he left Korea and iNcontroL hasn't accomplished much at the top.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 20 2011 11:52 GMT
#3239
On June 20 2011 20:52 darkness wrote:
So who do you think will win DHS?
Poll: Who will win DHS?

Bomber (66)
 
68%

Huk (24)
 
25%

Moon (7)
 
7%

97 total votes

Your vote: Who will win DHS?

(Vote): Huk
(Vote): Bomber
(Vote): Moon



edit this post to include a second poll asking "So who do you WANT to win DHS?"
lalala
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 11:54:39
June 20 2011 11:53 GMT
#3240
On June 20 2011 20:45 Loxley wrote:
HuK, Bomber, Moon... Who cares!

We got a great series, a great production value, a great tournament so far with awesome casters and epic battles. And you know what.. It's all been free! Enjoy people!

Did you really enjoy Huk vs July?

I'm not a fan of either of them, so I found it really underwhelming. One player played up to his usual standard, which is really high, the other one played really bad so we got 2 onesided games. Left a lot to be desired imo.

If you are a Huk fan I can understand why you liked it, but for the neutral viewer is wasn't great.
€
But I agree about the rest, DH was nothing but amazing thus far.
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