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Sadly it seems I have to put this up yet again. Any of the following types of posts will be met with immediate bans:

Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining/Off topic arguing.

Stick to the games and enjoy the event and its free services and coverage.
Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
June 20 2011 11:53 GMT
#3241
On June 20 2011 20:52 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 20:52 darkness wrote:
So who do you think will win DHS?
Poll: Who will win DHS?

Bomber (66)
 
68%

Huk (24)
 
25%

Moon (7)
 
7%

97 total votes

Your vote: Who will win DHS?

(Vote): Huk
(Vote): Bomber
(Vote): Moon



edit this post to include a second poll asking "So who do you WANT to win DHS?"

Yeah... I didnt want to vote. Dont want to jynx anything. lol.
WeeEEeeEEEeeEEEeeeEEee!!
Imres
Profile Joined March 2011
515 Posts
June 20 2011 11:53 GMT
#3242
On June 20 2011 20:52 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 20:51 furymonkey wrote:
On June 20 2011 20:46 Gheizen64 wrote:
This topic is so stupid to read.

Suddendly people think the nation where you play has to determine your nationality. It isn't like this in ANY sport, so please stfu. If people move to a nation with better infrastructures for training they don't change nationality. Messi and Ronaldo aren't spanish , they play in spanish teams. Same goes for Huk, he isn't Korean for the mother of god, he play in a korean team.

I couldn't care less about who win but the fanboysm in this thread is making me puke.


Only a few clueless people thinks nationality is the focus of discussion, this including you. What people are saying is the training style of Korean versus the foreigners, which still stands and clearly proven when the top 4 players all undergo the Korean style training.

There is no foreigner style of training at all.


Yes there is one. Stream your games, do coaching, play in minor cups/leagues to get some money, and practice not that much.
ribboo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1842 Posts
June 20 2011 11:53 GMT
#3243
On June 20 2011 20:52 Nerdslayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 20:49 lunchforthesky wrote:
On June 20 2011 20:46 Gheizen64 wrote:
This topic is so stupid to read.

Suddendly people think the nation where you play has to determine your nationality. It isn't like this in ANY sport, so please stfu. If people move to a nation with better infrastructures for training they don't change nationality. Messi and Ronaldo aren't spanish , they play in spanish teams. Same goes for Huk, he isn't Korean for the mother of god, he play in a korean team.

I couldn't care less about who win but the fanboysm in this thread is making me puke.


Messi plays a Spanish style of football though, even Argentinians say that while Messi is an Argentine national he is a product of Spanish football.

Just like Huk is a Canandian but is a product of Korean Starcraft.


wtf are you talking about Messi is a product of the argentinians football school.

You have no idea wtf you talking about Brazil and Argentina got some of the best football schools in the world.

Jesus crist some of you people just plain silly

barca signed messi when he was 13.

User was temp banned for this post.
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
June 20 2011 11:53 GMT
#3244
I think people are saying HuK is Korean in the same way Select is North American. He trains in Korea and lives there, having the same practice schedules as the Koreans. When people say Korea dominated MLG, they don't mean that Select and DDE did really well, they mean the Koreans who train in Korea and play on the Korean server dominated.

I feel like the people that are saying that Huk is a pure foreigner and is "standing up to the Koreans" are the same people that were saying "Koreans don't dominate at MLG, look at Select, Moonan, DDE..." It isn't even a case of nationality, it is a case of where you train and the infrastructure around you. HuK is Korean in the same way Select is North American, and Huk is Canadian in the same way Select is Korean.
ScaringKids
Profile Joined November 2010
Portugal819 Posts
June 20 2011 11:53 GMT
#3245
On June 20 2011 20:45 Loxley wrote:
HuK, Bomber, Moon... Who cares!

We got a great series, a great production value, a great tournament so far with awesome casters and epic battles. And you know what.. It's all been free! Enjoy people!


Exactly man
MC | NesTea | Jaedong | PartinG | Liquid'HerO | MvP | Flash | White-Ra | Polt | Squirtle |
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
June 20 2011 11:53 GMT
#3246
Can we get another thin red line in here?

Seems like a few retards decide to get the "HUK IS KOREAN LOL" discussion going again....
We make signature, then defense it.
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
June 20 2011 11:53 GMT
#3247
Nice for StarTale if Bomber wins this. ST_Ace won IEM in March and ST_Squirtle came second. They must be happy with the results so I guess StarTale will be sending even more players to tournaments.
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
Bobble
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1493 Posts
June 20 2011 11:53 GMT
#3248
On June 20 2011 20:49 Steamroller wrote:
So it's USA vs Korea finals =)


The only good American left is Day9.

But let's be fair, we'll call HuK a foreigner (quit the arguments, yes, his major training is in Korea, but he plays for a foreign team and he's Canadian, he's a foreigner.
CaptainTwig
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom532 Posts
June 20 2011 11:53 GMT
#3249
On June 20 2011 20:48 ChickenLips wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 20:46 Gheizen64 wrote:
This topic is so stupid to read.

Suddendly people think the nation where you play has to determine your nationality. It isn't like this in ANY sport, so please stfu. If people move to a nation with better infrastructures for training they don't change nationality. Messi and Ronaldo isn't spanish , they play in spanish teams. Same goes for Huk, he isn't Korean for the mother of god, he play in a korean team.

I couldn't care less about who win but the fanboysm in this thread is making me puke.


Yeah and it isn't about nationality but practice environment / scene.

People like iNcontroL and IdrA have been spouting nonsense like "Korea isn't the place to be"

Bullshit.

Yeah if you wanna feast on the scraps and be a B-class player, stay in the US or wherever, but if you wanna take the big tournies and be the best player you can be there is absolutely no alternative to going to Korea.


Couldn't have put it better my friend. If us non-koreans ever establish anything close to the training/tournament system they have set-up. I might start taking iNcontrols, IdrA, demuslim etc comments seriously.
coko
Profile Joined November 2002
United Kingdom570 Posts
June 20 2011 11:54 GMT
#3250
On June 20 2011 20:52 Nerdslayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 20:49 lunchforthesky wrote:
On June 20 2011 20:46 Gheizen64 wrote:
This topic is so stupid to read.

Suddendly people think the nation where you play has to determine your nationality. It isn't like this in ANY sport, so please stfu. If people move to a nation with better infrastructures for training they don't change nationality. Messi and Ronaldo aren't spanish , they play in spanish teams. Same goes for Huk, he isn't Korean for the mother of god, he play in a korean team.

I couldn't care less about who win but the fanboysm in this thread is making me puke.


Messi plays a Spanish style of football though, even Argentinians say that while Messi is an Argentine national he is a product of Spanish football.

Just like Huk is a Canandian but is a product of Korean Starcraft.


wtf are you talking about Messi is a product of the argentinians football school.

You have no idea wtf you talking about Brazil and Argentina got some of the best football schools in the world.

Jesus crist some of you people just plain silly


Messi was sent to Spain at an early age and did all his training there, so no. Not Argentinian football school.


User was temp banned for this post.
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
June 20 2011 11:54 GMT
#3251
On June 20 2011 20:51 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 20:47 ondik wrote:
On June 20 2011 20:40 hifriend wrote:
That was some remarkably bad play by july, but spire vs blink is always a tough situation so..

At least I get to see bomber own him in the finals (seriously no chance for huk vs bomber)..


dude..you already said you dislike HuK for being arrogant (what's interesting to me as you apparently like MC), why more hatred?

It's annoying seeing him cruise through an easy group then bracket followed by july playing terribly. Superior protoss' like MC/Nani/White-Ra got tough opponents throughout the tournament and performed equally well without blindly going dt's half the time, yet now half the people in this thread are talking about huk as if he's suddenly the best protoss on the planet. Sigh.


Please explain to me why you have to put "blindly" before DTs except to make your statement more negative. None of his DT strats have been all-in whatsoever, except for his one game vs. Bischu (ironically that he lost..). DT strats are actually highly versatile and good against almost all tech trees of Zerg, regardless of if they are able to kill drones or not.
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
Kour
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden87 Posts
June 20 2011 11:54 GMT
#3252
It's been some great and fun games but a little bit sad that it's only Bo3, would have been nice with some more Bo5 then the finals.
WhurreOdu
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1739 Posts
June 20 2011 11:54 GMT
#3253
On June 20 2011 20:53 grobo wrote:
Can we get another thin red line in here?

Seems like a few retards decide to get the "HUK IS KOREAN LOL" discussion going again....


yes please, it's annoying like hell
Fut am Bam
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
June 20 2011 11:54 GMT
#3254
Does anyone seriously think that foreigner training regimes and ladder/talent pool is not vastly inferior to the Koreans'?
rpgalon
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil1069 Posts
June 20 2011 11:54 GMT
#3255
On June 20 2011 20:45 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Huk over july isn't the biggest upset in the world... now Huk over bomber would probably be the biggest upset I've seen in the past month especially in a bo5 regardless of how well Huk has been playing. I mean, bomber just took out MC. MC!!


MC made funfamental mistakes in mid/late in game 3, mistakes like not expanding, not upgrading armor, and he engaged before storm was ready, game 2 i don't even know what he was thinking when he let the expansion finish (and expanded early aggainst Bomber in XC).

I think Huk does have a chance, not like MC, but he is clearlly not out yet.
badog
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
June 20 2011 11:54 GMT
#3256
Just made home, wanna watch Bomber v MC during the downtime. Anyone cares to link me to VODs ?
eggs
Profile Joined August 2010
1011 Posts
June 20 2011 11:54 GMT
#3257
On June 20 2011 20:50 Crazyeyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 20:47 Xpace wrote:
Ok, enough. Despite his oGs training, his GSL experience, his obvious MC-"inspired" builds, fine. He's a foreigner. Let's not start this ridiculous debate again. Foreigners should have their chance to cheer on their flavor of the month champion. I'm saying flavor of the month because prior to Dreamhack, if I said HuK was the best foreign Protoss, everyone would laugh and say NANIWHAT? I get it, I get it, you're excited because a foreigner beat a Korean. Just goes to show how big of a deal it is, and how truly behind the foreign scene is, that when one of us beats a Korean, we suddenly crown him the champion, the tip of the foreign spear. Makes sense, I get it.

Too bad Bomber will steamroll HuK. Calling it now.

To be fair, everyone does the same with Koreans. MVP won? Best in the world. Nestea won? Best in the world.
Even though it doesnt take long for them to fall right back down.

SC2 is pretty volatile.


there wasn't much of a Polt bandwagon. the LR thread was full of haters even after it ended.
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
June 20 2011 11:54 GMT
#3258
Don't think Huk has a chance vs Bomber in a Bo5 but i hope I'm wrong. If moon somehow takes out Bomber Huk should take it unless he gets caught offguard by the stuff he used against Naniwa.
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
June 20 2011 11:55 GMT
#3259
On June 20 2011 20:52 Nerdslayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 20:49 lunchforthesky wrote:
On June 20 2011 20:46 Gheizen64 wrote:
This topic is so stupid to read.

Suddendly people think the nation where you play has to determine your nationality. It isn't like this in ANY sport, so please stfu. If people move to a nation with better infrastructures for training they don't change nationality. Messi and Ronaldo aren't spanish , they play in spanish teams. Same goes for Huk, he isn't Korean for the mother of god, he play in a korean team.

I couldn't care less about who win but the fanboysm in this thread is making me puke.


Messi plays a Spanish style of football though, even Argentinians say that while Messi is an Argentine national he is a product of Spanish football.

Just like Huk is a Canandian but is a product of Korean Starcraft.


wtf are you talking about Messi is a product of the argentinians football school.

You have no idea wtf you talking about Brazil and Argentina got some of the best football schools in the world.

Jesus crist some of you people just plain silly

lol Messi is a Barca youth product basically

User was temp banned for this post.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
June 20 2011 11:55 GMT
#3260
On June 20 2011 20:52 Nerdslayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 20:49 lunchforthesky wrote:
On June 20 2011 20:46 Gheizen64 wrote:
This topic is so stupid to read.

Suddendly people think the nation where you play has to determine your nationality. It isn't like this in ANY sport, so please stfu. If people move to a nation with better infrastructures for training they don't change nationality. Messi and Ronaldo aren't spanish , they play in spanish teams. Same goes for Huk, he isn't Korean for the mother of god, he play in a korean team.

I couldn't care less about who win but the fanboysm in this thread is making me puke.


Messi plays a Spanish style of football though, even Argentinians say that while Messi is an Argentine national he is a product of Spanish football.

Just like Huk is a Canandian but is a product of Korean Starcraft.


wtf are you talking about Messi is a product of the argentinians football school.

You have no idea wtf you talking about Brazil and Argentina got some of the best football schools in the world.

Jesus crist some of you people just plain silly


Messi moved to Barcelona at 12 years old when he was extremely talented but a million miles from the best player in the world he is today. He was trained almost entirely by Barcelona.

Brazil and Argentina are two of the best footballing nations but neither of them created Messi, La Masia did.


User was temp banned for this post.
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