EPTI'm sure there are some of you who are really hard-up for cash, but for most of you all I can say if WTF
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MajorityofOne
Canada2506 Posts
I'm sure there are some of you who are really hard-up for cash, but for most of you all I can say if WTF | ||
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akomatic
156 Posts
I hope I'm proven wrong and we see every spot taken, but I don't think we'll find 1024 people that will weigh the values of the prizes, chance of making the top 8, and cost of entry and time as a net positive. In a bracket, the losers are given the luxury of leaving after they have no chance of winning, but in NASL, they are expected to provide an unpaid service for several weeks. For this reason, I'd like to see $22,500 taken out of the main prize pool to give each player $50 for each regular season bo3 they play (9 bo3s/player * 50 players * $50/bo3 = $22,500). I think a regular-season player deserves a fixed income, and that will go a long way to increasing the value of the 50 NASL spots. TL:DR Give players carrots for regular season (payment per series), not sticks ($250 deposit) so that the 50 NASL spots have more value. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On June 07 2011 00:44 two.watup wrote: And what happens if Painuser plays in the Open and wins? Can no one from NASL play? Can only the people outside of the top 20 play? If no one can play, aren't they being done a disservice by being penalized for participating in your league? If everyone can play, are there incentives for the top 20 not to? (do they already get a travel stipend?) If ouside of top 20 can play, was there any reason for them to play, or play their best, in their last 2-3 matches? Once players were eliminated from the playoffs / auto qual for next season, couldn't they have just peaced and waited for this tournament? Were outside the top 20 players informed that they could make playoffs from a single 10-11 round tournament after the league was over? Was anyone informed until now? Do you think players would have accepted their invitations if they knew that there would be arguably worse players fighting for a spot in the playoffs elsewhere? How does an Ro21 work? Lol. Read the rules and info before you make ill-informed posts please. Players in the NASL can't participate ~~; I'm not going to answer more inane posts from you  | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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chickenhawk
Portugal339 Posts
In a bracket, the losers are given the luxury of leaving after they have no chance of winning, but in NASL, they are expected to provide an unpaid service for several weeks. For this reason, I'd like to see $22,500 taken out of the main prize pool to give each player $50 for each regular season bo3 they play (9 bo3s/player * 50 players * $50/bo3 = $22,500). I think a regular-season player deserves a fixed income, and that will go a long way to increasing the value of the 50 NASL spots. You are right sir... Although I find the roster to be to big.. I think 32 players in 8 groups of 4 would be enough. And if you need more games to be played (do to adds and not) just do 6 games per group or bo5. | ||
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
I want to see a top pro taking that final spot in the finals, not someone who lucked his way through a zlasher bracket. I fully support your decision making it a buy-in tournament. | ||
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two.watup
United States371 Posts
On June 07 2011 04:48 Xeris wrote: Players in the NASL can't participate ~~; http://nasl.tv/News/Article/20110603open-tournament Who is eligible? Anyone with a North American SC2 account What if I'm from Korea? If you can play at the default times and have access to the North American SC2 server, yes! Read the rules and info before you make ill-informed posts please. I'm going to go out of my way to answer more inane posts from you.  Incredibly professional PR. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On June 07 2011 04:30 MajorityofOne wrote: Holy christ it's 10$. I'm living on kraft dinner currently and I'd pay 10$ if I thought I had any chance against this level of competition. It shocks me how much of the outrage in this thread actually seems sincere O.O I'm sure there are some of you who are really hard-up for cash, but for most of you all I can say if WTF Are you kidding? Regardless of how good you are, chances are you won't make it, even if you're the top player. I just don't see the reasoning for mandating a $10 fee when it could be out of 1024 people, single elimination. $10 for a chance of being eliminated after 1 series, along with essentially no return for second place if you happen to make it far. I simply don't see the justification in a $10 entrance fee for an open tournament like this. Maybe if it was 64 people max. Not 1024. | ||
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Hammurabio
152 Posts
On June 06 2011 17:04 Xeris wrote: It'll probably be seeded... From the Rules: The tournament will have a maximum of 1,024 players who will be randomly seeded into a single elimination bracket. | ||
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VTPerfect
United States487 Posts
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sAfuRos
United States743 Posts
With things like LAN's, its not the same; $70, yes - but win or lose, you get to experience the LAN and meet all sorts of cool people/players. With this its 1016 people chucking $10 down the drain for no return. | ||
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Grubby
Netherlands318 Posts
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xAPOCALYPSEx
1418 Posts
And I completely agree with sAfuRos above me; when you pay to play at a LAN, playing is only part of the experience, the LAN is the other (and bigger) part of the experience. On June 07 2011 05:58 MCDayC wrote: I honestly cannot believe people are complaining about this. Anyway, this looks good, hopefully more pro players sign up, so far the only notable sign up is Pokebunny. Still, I think having an open tourney is a very nice complement to the main Division play. Also VTWhiplash who, from what I've seen, is a pretty damn good player, as well as Dignitas's Killer. (If he's on dignitas, we all know damn well he's good :D) | ||
JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On June 07 2011 07:05 Grubby wrote: Meh, tournament held during Dreamhack & HomeStory cup. That's not going to get the best players in. Wait what, really? Crap, I never realized that! Well, it's only one round a day, right? So it should be possible for players to attend Dreamhack and that Tournament, hopefully... | ||
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Jugan
United States1566 Posts
 Hope to see some good names and new players rise to the top though | ||
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Azuzu
United States340 Posts
$10 is a cheap way to narrow the field to serious players. If you think you have no chance of winning, this isn't the tournament for you. Stop complaining about things that don't apply to you. <3 NASL Edit: I'll go on to say that complaining this is taking advantage of players is ridiculous. At it's core, this is really a satellite tournament and I would challenge you again to find one poker player that think those are unfair. You pay $10 for a chance to win entry to a tournament for a chance to win more money. Nothing wrong with that. | ||
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sAfuRos
United States743 Posts
On June 07 2011 07:21 Azuzu wrote: I'd like to see ONE player who actually has a shot of winning this complain about the $10 entry fee. I'd bet you won't find one. If this were free to to enter, you know 10k people would enter 99% of which have no shot at winning (and know from the begining they have no shot of winning). $10 is a cheap way to narrow the field to serious players. If you think you have no chance of winning, this isn't the tournament for you. Stop complaining about things that don't apply to you. <3 NASL Not really. I'd say anyone in top 200 masters or the 200 grandmasters all could potentially grab a spot if they were lucky, played hot, had an easy bracket, had build order wins, combination, etc I'm pretty confident that i could beat most players in a bo3, but i know that i can also lose those very same bo3's, and a long string of those bo3's makes it even worse As a not top top player who is decent enough to have a shot, the $10 fee is still not something i'm willing to pay in a set up where i might just get cheesed out or get 2 rough pvp's against a mediocre player and just be flat out, out | ||
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IzieBoy
United States865 Posts
On June 06 2011 11:33 TDN wrote: "registration is simple and easy, and is $10 per player" I don't know what's wrong with NA tournaments, but every big tournament, players have to pay a certain amount of money to participate. How is this helping esport? This is more like greedy business than an esport competition. Just look at EU and KR tournaments. Everything is free. GSL doesn't cost a penny to spectate or participate, and they even have free Coke drink and sometimes pizza. This is just funny. It reminds me of those internet scam where you participate in a survey and at the end they ask for your credit card number. they have to charge a fee for rental and adminstration also without the dollar amount you'll simply be overwhelmed by the amount of people you'll be dealing with they most likely have a sponsor...so for them $10 per player is nothing | ||
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WniO
United States2706 Posts
On June 07 2011 00:59 Pokebunny wrote: I'm happy that there's an entrance fee; means I'll just have to play a small amount of serious players rather than playing joe diamonds all day just to get half through the tournament. Im joining this tournament soley for defeating players like you who think youre better than everyone else. Yeah i might be diamond but if i meet you on this bracket you are going down. | ||
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