• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 16:47
CET 22:47
KST 06:47
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon [D] Hacker peak in sc2 ? Liquibets sc2 season 30
Tourneys
SC2 iNu's Battles #22 SC4ALL: II Venue Change Announcement! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Starcraft 2 Advance [G] How to playtest arcade maps [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
Rollback Netcode in Brood War List of top players active on ShieldBattery [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos BW General Discussion Cwal.gg not working
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Dating: How's your luck? Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Playlenda
Playlendapro
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9383 users

NASL Open Tournament - Page 6

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 80 Next
MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
June 06 2011 19:30 GMT
#101
Holy christ it's 10$. I'm living on kraft dinner currently and I'd pay 10$ if I thought I had any chance against this level of competition. It shocks me how much of the outrage in this thread actually seems sincere O.O

I'm sure there are some of you who are really hard-up for cash, but for most of you all I can say if WTF
akomatic
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
156 Posts
June 06 2011 19:32 GMT
#102
I'd be surprised if we see over a few hundred people sign up. You're paying $10 for a single qualification to a great 16 player $100,000 tourney, but the only other prizes are 7 spots in the next NASL regular season. And we've seen that the regular season games can become an unpaid chore for those players on the bottom half of their division.

I hope I'm proven wrong and we see every spot taken, but I don't think we'll find 1024 people that will weigh the values of the prizes, chance of making the top 8, and cost of entry and time as a net positive.

In a bracket, the losers are given the luxury of leaving after they have no chance of winning, but in NASL, they are expected to provide an unpaid service for several weeks. For this reason, I'd like to see $22,500 taken out of the main prize pool to give each player $50 for each regular season bo3 they play (9 bo3s/player * 50 players * $50/bo3 = $22,500). I think a regular-season player deserves a fixed income, and that will go a long way to increasing the value of the 50 NASL spots.

TL:DR Give players carrots for regular season (payment per series), not sticks ($250 deposit) so that the 50 NASL spots have more value.
..Bears!
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 06 2011 19:48 GMT
#103
On June 07 2011 00:44 two.watup wrote:
And what happens if Painuser plays in the Open and wins?

Can no one from NASL play? Can only the people outside of the top 20 play?

If no one can play, aren't they being done a disservice by being penalized for participating in your league?

If everyone can play, are there incentives for the top 20 not to? (do they already get a travel stipend?)

If ouside of top 20 can play, was there any reason for them to play, or play their best, in their last 2-3 matches? Once players were eliminated from the playoffs / auto qual for next season, couldn't they have just peaced and waited for this tournament?

Were outside the top 20 players informed that they could make playoffs from a single 10-11 round tournament after the league was over?

Was anyone informed until now?

Do you think players would have accepted their invitations if they knew that there would be arguably worse players fighting for a spot in the playoffs elsewhere?

How does an Ro21 work?


Lol. Read the rules and info before you make ill-informed posts please. Players in the NASL can't participate ~~;

I'm not going to answer more inane posts from you
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 06 2011 19:54 GMT
#104
MLG costs $70 to play and you have to travel there yourself. This is $10 for a chance at qualifying for a LAN that we're accommodating costs. Anyways, people who want to complain will complain, people who want to qualify will qualify

twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
chickenhawk
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal339 Posts
June 06 2011 20:45 GMT
#105
In a bracket, the losers are given the luxury of leaving after they have no chance of winning, but in NASL, they are expected to provide an unpaid service for several weeks. For this reason, I'd like to see $22,500 taken out of the main prize pool to give each player $50 for each regular season bo3 they play (9 bo3s/player * 50 players * $50/bo3 = $22,500). I think a regular-season player deserves a fixed income, and that will go a long way to increasing the value of the 50 NASL spots.


You are right sir... Although I find the roster to be to big.. I think 32 players in 8 groups of 4 would be enough. And if you need more games to be played (do to adds and not) just do 6 games per group or bo5.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
June 06 2011 20:58 GMT
#106
I honestly cannot believe people are complaining about this. Anyway, this looks good, hopefully more pro players sign up, so far the only notable sign up is Pokebunny. Still, I think having an open tourney is a very nice complement to the main Division play.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 21:08:17
June 06 2011 21:07 GMT
#107
If there's too many scrubs signing up, you should increase the buy-in for next season, Xeris. :D


I want to see a top pro taking that final spot in the finals, not someone who lucked his way through a zlasher bracket. I fully support your decision making it a buy-in tournament.
two.watup
Profile Joined March 2011
United States371 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 21:21:32
June 06 2011 21:14 GMT
#108
On June 07 2011 04:48 Xeris wrote:
Players in the NASL can't participate ~~;


http://nasl.tv/News/Article/20110603open-tournament
Who is eligible?

Anyone with a North American SC2 account
What if I'm from Korea?

If you can play at the default times and have access to the North American SC2 server, yes!


Read the rules and info before you make ill-informed posts please.

I'm going to go out of my way to answer more inane posts from you.

Incredibly professional PR.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 22:11:37
June 06 2011 21:23 GMT
#109
On June 07 2011 04:30 MajorityofOne wrote:
Holy christ it's 10$. I'm living on kraft dinner currently and I'd pay 10$ if I thought I had any chance against this level of competition. It shocks me how much of the outrage in this thread actually seems sincere O.O

I'm sure there are some of you who are really hard-up for cash, but for most of you all I can say if WTF


Are you kidding? Regardless of how good you are, chances are you won't make it, even if you're the top player. I just don't see the reasoning for mandating a $10 fee when it could be out of 1024 people, single elimination. $10 for a chance of being eliminated after 1 series, along with essentially no return for second place if you happen to make it far. I simply don't see the justification in a $10 entrance fee for an open tournament like this. Maybe if it was 64 people max. Not 1024.
Hammurabio
Profile Joined August 2010
152 Posts
June 06 2011 21:23 GMT
#110
On June 06 2011 17:04 Xeris wrote:
It'll probably be seeded...


From the Rules:
The tournament will have a maximum of 1,024 players who will be randomly seeded into a single elimination bracket.
VTPerfect
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States487 Posts
June 06 2011 21:49 GMT
#111
$10 seems like taking advantage of players. Assuming you get the desired number of participants you'de basically be collecting over 10k in fees. Which is to pay for? Last time i checked it costs next to nothing to hold an online tournament. Single elimination to add to it too, Sc2 ins't well balanced or designed enough for single elimination to produce the best players. instead it produces the luckiest of the best players.
sAfuRos
Profile Joined March 2009
United States743 Posts
June 06 2011 22:02 GMT
#112
If there were a losers bracket i could justify the $10, but otherwise not really

With things like LAN's, its not the same; $70, yes - but win or lose, you get to experience the LAN and meet all sorts of cool people/players. With this its 1016 people chucking $10 down the drain for no return.
sAfuRos // twitch.tv/sAfuRos // contact for coaching
Grubby
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands318 Posts
June 06 2011 22:05 GMT
#113
Meh, tournament held during Dreamhack & HomeStory cup. That's not going to get the best players in.
Homepage: followgrubby.com Twitter: @followgrubby Facebook: /followgrubby
xAPOCALYPSEx
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1418 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 22:12:18
June 06 2011 22:09 GMT
#114
$10 definitely IS taking advantage of the players. I'll be staggered if this open gets anywhere NEAR 512 players much less 1024 with that price. There isn't even a losers bracket to redeem yourself; if you lose a bo3 you're out $10. This is really discouraging for people who just want to walk on and make a name of themselves; you have to be really damn confident you are going to do well.

And I completely agree with sAfuRos above me; when you pay to play at a LAN, playing is only part of the experience, the LAN is the other (and bigger) part of the experience.


On June 07 2011 05:58 MCDayC wrote:
I honestly cannot believe people are complaining about this. Anyway, this looks good, hopefully more pro players sign up, so far the only notable sign up is Pokebunny. Still, I think having an open tourney is a very nice complement to the main Division play.


Also VTWhiplash who, from what I've seen, is a pretty damn good player, as well as Dignitas's Killer. (If he's on dignitas, we all know damn well he's good :D)
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
June 06 2011 22:12 GMT
#115
On June 07 2011 07:05 Grubby wrote:
Meh, tournament held during Dreamhack & HomeStory cup. That's not going to get the best players in.


Wait what, really? Crap, I never realized that!
Well, it's only one round a day, right?
So it should be possible for players to attend Dreamhack and that Tournament, hopefully...
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
June 06 2011 22:17 GMT
#116
Awwww $10 entry fee, I'm too cheap for that

Hope to see some good names and new players rise to the top though
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
Azuzu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States340 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 22:36:11
June 06 2011 22:21 GMT
#117
I'd like to see ONE player who actually has a shot of winning this complain about the $10 entry fee. I'd bet you won't find one. If this were free to to enter, you know 10k people would enter 99% of which have no shot at winning (and know from the beginning they have no shot of winning).

$10 is a cheap way to narrow the field to serious players. If you think you have no chance of winning, this isn't the tournament for you. Stop complaining about things that don't apply to you.

<3 NASL

Edit: I'll go on to say that complaining this is taking advantage of players is ridiculous. At it's core, this is really a satellite tournament and I would challenge you again to find one poker player that think those are unfair. You pay $10 for a chance to win entry to a tournament for a chance to win more money. Nothing wrong with that.
sAfuRos
Profile Joined March 2009
United States743 Posts
June 06 2011 22:32 GMT
#118
On June 07 2011 07:21 Azuzu wrote:
I'd like to see ONE player who actually has a shot of winning this complain about the $10 entry fee. I'd bet you won't find one. If this were free to to enter, you know 10k people would enter 99% of which have no shot at winning (and know from the begining they have no shot of winning).

$10 is a cheap way to narrow the field to serious players. If you think you have no chance of winning, this isn't the tournament for you. Stop complaining about things that don't apply to you.

<3 NASL


Not really.
I'd say anyone in top 200 masters or the 200 grandmasters all could potentially grab a spot if they were lucky, played hot, had an easy bracket, had build order wins, combination, etc

I'm pretty confident that i could beat most players in a bo3, but i know that i can also lose those very same bo3's, and a long string of those bo3's makes it even worse

As a not top top player who is decent enough to have a shot, the $10 fee is still not something i'm willing to pay in a set up where i might just get cheesed out or get 2 rough pvp's against a mediocre player and just be flat out, out
sAfuRos // twitch.tv/sAfuRos // contact for coaching
IzieBoy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States865 Posts
June 06 2011 22:35 GMT
#119
On June 06 2011 11:33 TDN wrote:
"registration is simple and easy, and is $10 per player"

I don't know what's wrong with NA tournaments, but every big tournament, players have to pay a certain amount of money to participate. How is this helping esport? This is more like greedy business than an esport competition.

Just look at EU and KR tournaments. Everything is free. GSL doesn't cost a penny to spectate or participate, and they even have free Coke drink and sometimes pizza.

This is just funny. It reminds me of those internet scam where you participate in a survey and at the end they ask for your credit card number.


they have to charge a fee for rental and adminstration

also without the dollar amount you'll simply be overwhelmed by the amount of people you'll be dealing with

they most likely have a sponsor...so for them $10 per player is nothing
Let's Do This! Leeeeeeeeeeeeeroy Jenkins!
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
June 06 2011 22:41 GMT
#120
On June 07 2011 00:59 Pokebunny wrote:
I'm happy that there's an entrance fee; means I'll just have to play a small amount of serious players rather than playing joe diamonds all day just to get half through the tournament.

Im joining this tournament soley for defeating players like you who think youre better than everyone else. Yeah i might be diamond but if i meet you on this bracket you are going down.
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 80 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 13m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 658
ZombieGrub232
EmSc Tv 30
Nathanias 2
StarCraft: Brood War
ProTech90
Barracks 29
910 18
Dota 2
syndereN359
League of Legends
Doublelift1751
Trikslyr62
Counter-Strike
gobbtv236
Fnx 65
Other Games
Grubby3833
B2W.Neo222
ToD189
C9.Mang0142
NeuroSwarm73
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL67
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 30
EmSc2Tv 30
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 24
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Eskiya23 29
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1425
• Shiphtur736
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
1h 13m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
12h 13m
WardiTV Invitational
14h 13m
YoungYakov vs Lambo
SHIN vs TBD
Percival vs Shameless
Solar vs TBD
OSC
1d 1h
ByuN vs MaxPax
herO vs Krystianer
Percival vs Shameless
LetaleX vs YoungYakov
Nicoract vs Gerald
GgMaChine vs ArT
PiGosaur Cup
1d 3h
INu's Battles
1d 14h
ByuN vs Classic
3D!Clan Event
1d 18h
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
[ Show More ]
Ultimate Battle
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
IPSL
4 days
TerrOr vs IJ_Terran
rasowy vs Hazorath
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
IPSL
5 days
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-06
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
Individual League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 951
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.