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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
June 07 2011 02:11 GMT
#141
I think people should have better things to do than worry about a 10$ entry fee for a tourney. If it's too much move along. No amount of complaining or theorizing that it's some kind of get rich scam will have it removed.
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
June 07 2011 02:12 GMT
#142
Freaking baller and only 10$ sign up. Already signed up
anonymous is the most famous author that anyone can be
SMD
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada627 Posts
June 07 2011 02:16 GMT
#143
I'm Just wondering, Are you guys contacting the big teams/names that aren't in the tournament to make sure they know about it? I know most players would as its a huge prize, but just in case some of the europeans or koreans don't know when the dates are?

as for the 10$, its a great oppurtunity, and totally worth the cost if you have a shot at making top 8 ( or winning)
sleigh bells
Profile Joined April 2011
United States358 Posts
June 07 2011 02:21 GMT
#144
On June 07 2011 11:11 iNcontroL wrote:
I think people should have better things to do than worry about a 10$ entry fee for a tourney. If it's too much move along. No amount of complaining or theorizing that it's some kind of get rich scam will have it removed.

if you want to make some money, i think that's fine. but saying money is necessary to guarantee less no-shows is retarded. a $25 refundable deposit would work even better.
Sup son? ¯\__(ツ)__/¯
jdelator
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States89 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 02:28:31
June 07 2011 02:27 GMT
#145
Cool. It seems that you are taking constructive criticism lightly and you keep going to the same old line of attack that $10 is too much. Best of luck!

BTW You still haven't addressed how non USA players are supposed to get to the tournament with a $500 stipend. Heck a NY player will have trouble getting there with that much.
SMD
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada627 Posts
June 07 2011 02:27 GMT
#146
On June 07 2011 11:21 sleigh bells wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 11:11 iNcontroL wrote:
I think people should have better things to do than worry about a 10$ entry fee for a tourney. If it's too much move along. No amount of complaining or theorizing that it's some kind of get rich scam will have it removed.

if you want to make some money, i think that's fine. but saying money is necessary to guarantee less no-shows is retarded. a $25 refundable deposit would work even better.



Its not only to guantee no shows, but push the level of competition up a bit. Why does everyone have such a huge problem with the 10$ fee lol, I thought it would be more, again, if you cant spare the 10$ then you shouldn't have entered anyways.
SMD
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada627 Posts
June 07 2011 02:34 GMT
#147
On June 07 2011 11:27 jdelator wrote:
Cool. It seems that you are taking constructive criticism lightly and you keep going to the same old line of attack that $10 is too much. Best of luck!

BTW You still haven't addressed how non USA players are supposed to get to the tournament with a $500 stipend. Heck a NY player will have trouble getting there with that much.



$500 stripend + 500$ IF they lose in the first round, while 1000 may not cover their costs, itll be close im sure. not to mention, win one BO3 and u get 1500+ 500 stripend.

Not to mention, whoever wins this open will MOST LIKELY be on a serious team that will either help, or cover their costs.

Im not sure what a flight from europe to Cali costs, but 1000$ seems like it will cover at least most of it. (the 1000, is WORST CASE SCENARIO)
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
June 07 2011 02:37 GMT
#148
I love when people make the argument "it couldn't possible be because of X because you could just do Y"

Ever think that perhaps your opinion is that on the one hand a refundable deposit is your preferred method? But for us the 10$ deposit makes more sense?

Seriously. It's really simple.. if you cannot afford/on principle don't want to pay 10$ then please move along. But these theories or jabs aren't really needed. Was it ever a mystery that NASL wants to make money? It has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on a league so YES they want to make money and be lucrative. That was never a mystery or lie of sorts. I think 10$ is extremely fair and has good reason BESIDES wanting to make money. If that isn't the case for you please just move along.
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
June 07 2011 02:38 GMT
#149
hm, the whole thing is single elimination? hope to get someone good to take the spot~ r16 double elimination would probably be better (but more time consuming)

the 10$ is just so that people who enter take it serious and attend, i think thats good but still doesnt make it foolproof as painuser showed .... :3
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DueSs
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States765 Posts
June 07 2011 02:39 GMT
#150
On June 07 2011 11:37 iNcontroL wrote:
I love when people make the argument "it couldn't possible be because of X because you could just do Y"

Ever think that perhaps your opinion is that on the one hand a refundable deposit is your preferred method? But for us the 10$ deposit makes more sense?

Seriously. It's really simple.. if you cannot afford/on principle don't want to pay 10$ then please move along. But these theories or jabs aren't really needed. Was it ever a mystery that NASL wants to make money? It has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on a league so YES they want to make money and be lucrative. That was never a mystery or lie of sorts. I think 10$ is extremely fair and has good reason BESIDES wanting to make money. If that isn't the case for you please just move along.


you realize that these people will say/do just about anything just to troll you/NASL, right? I really can't imagine anyone HONESTLY thinking 10$ is unreasonable.
MeatlessTaco
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States302 Posts
June 07 2011 02:45 GMT
#151
If you can't afford $10, you shouldn't be spending your time on Starcraft anyway as you have bigger problems. I'm pretty sure I could afford a $10 entrance fee anytime after the age or 12.
neo_sporin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States516 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 02:50:01
June 07 2011 02:45 GMT
#152
On June 06 2011 10:49 DoomsVille wrote:
They're making the same mistake IPL did. A qualifier system where they allow 8 players from a single qualifier isn't going to get you the best players.

Some players are going to luck their way in with easy bracket sections while others while get screwed with their section.


While I definitely agree on this. One thing to keep in mind is that the entry fee will at least stop a large portion of random people from joining and taking bracket spots from people who think they actually stand a chance.

But yea, watching IPL single elim qualifiers as a "if you make it to the top 8 you are in" really seems like you won't be getting the highest caliber of players.

EDIT: Looking at IPL2 players, theres only 1 player I didn't recognize that qualified and I'm sure hes recognizable to other people. My only concern is having a completely random no-name qualifying because he got a lucky bracket. No I dont think up and comers shouldnt have a chance, only that if they make it without beating a name player I will feel awkward a bit.
itsben
Profile Joined July 2010
435 Posts
June 07 2011 02:45 GMT
#153
I'm not 100% sure about this but is this legal? I remember a discussion back that buy-in tournaments/getting profits from tournaments aren't aloud by blizzard unless you have a contract with them? Sorry if this is all incorrect.
falcodevil
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15 Posts
June 07 2011 02:50 GMT
#154
there is some major tournaments that have a much larger entry fee. i just participated in the MLG columbus and i paid $70 to lose first round. I do not regret that one bit. it was an experience i could never get from playing online/same league players. even if you add the total cost of the trip for gas/food/hotel stay it was completely worth it, even to lose first round. besides in that entry fee it helps fund the tourny and prize money. its best described as a donation to the e-sports community because the more money that gets dumped into the circuit the bigger and better it becomes. how could anyone argue the growth of something that only benefits everyone in and around it. if other tournies had a entry fee of $10 that would be GREAT for the player, its less expensive and it still provides some money. however most times that cannot be done.

so for as far as saying its bad for the open to have $10 as an entry fee i would say its crazy to say its a bad thing. it only benefits everyone. even if you lose first round, you had the experience of a well set up tournament and got to participate in it. if you aren't looking to ever pay an entry fee then maybe you should ask yourself it the tournament scene is actually what you want.
SixPackAbs
Profile Joined September 2010
United States160 Posts
June 07 2011 02:50 GMT
#155


I remember a discussion back that buy-in tournaments/getting profits from tournaments aren't aloud by blizzard unless you have a contract with them? Sorry if this is all incorrect.


You need a blizzard tournament license, I imagine they have one.
DueSs
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States765 Posts
June 07 2011 02:50 GMT
#156
On June 07 2011 11:45 itsben wrote:
I'm not 100% sure about this but is this legal? I remember a discussion back that buy-in tournaments/getting profits from tournaments aren't aloud by blizzard unless you have a contract with them? Sorry if this is all incorrect.


*allowed

"the Battle.net Terms of Use state that it is a violation of the agreement—and an infringement of Blizzard’s copyright in the underlying game—to “use the Service for any ‘e-sports’ or group competition sponsored, promoted or facilitated by any commercial or non-profit entity without Blizzard’s prior written consent”.

And I'm pretty sure a venture such as NASL would get Blizzard's written consent.
ilmman
Profile Joined September 2010
364 Posts
June 07 2011 02:55 GMT
#157
you should get the koreans to sign up. Im sure the ones that didnt make the cut will want to sign up for shiz
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
June 07 2011 02:58 GMT
#158
wtf, internet critics. >.<

GSL entry fee: one way ticket to Korea
MLG entry fee: $70 and travel
NASL entry fee: $10 for an online event. (Which, if you win, gets you prize moneys and travel moneys to an amazing event)

THE HORROR!


Vinski
Profile Joined November 2010
505 Posts
June 07 2011 02:58 GMT
#159
I think the $10 signup is genious. Plus anyone who is looking to actually win the open tournament or the NASL for that matter can sure put in $10 and not mind lol.
"Sound is in a bad marriage, instead of divorcing her and keeping half your shit, he just committed suicide"
sc2guy
Profile Joined November 2010
291 Posts
June 07 2011 03:09 GMT
#160
It is good to have the $10 registration fee.
- It will keep out non serious participants.
- It will keep the cost of holding the event down and pay for the winner prize money.
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