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Lolsoup
United States11 Posts
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425kid
416 Posts
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Marcus420
Canada1923 Posts
On June 07 2011 11:58 MrBitter wrote: wtf, internet critics. >.< GSL entry fee: one way ticket to Korea MLG entry fee: $70 and travel NASL entry fee: $10 for an online event. (Which, if you win, gets you prize moneys and travel moneys to an amazing event) THE HORROR! this x1000 | ||
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Icekommander
Canada483 Posts
I think many of you don't particularly understand the NASL format. To begin with, each of the present players in the NASL has already put down a 250$ deposit. Each of the other players in the grand finals has already put down twenty-five times more money to play in this than you have. Is it refundable? Provided they don't do something stupid yes. Is it far more than you had to put down? Also yes. And this isn't some Zotac Cup where you are competing for 100$. This tournament is to join NASL. Go to the Grand Finals. Have a shot at the 100,000$ prize pool. If you aren't willing to pay 10$ to have a shot at that, then you aren't the target audience. I don't want you in NASL, I want someone like Pokebunny, who is going to give good games and is willing to put 10$ at stake. Look to the future. We want NASL to provide a stable league for North America, something that people can tune in and watch quality games. I'm not sure if you all noticed, but even during MLG, NASL was pulling over 5k viewers. If we want to keep NASL at the highest quality, then we want NASL to provide the best quality of players. In order to do this, the qualification brackets must be as competitive and fair as possible. In other words, this bracket isn't aimed at you, Diamond level Starcraft player who enjoys watching and playing. It is aimed at the pros. That is who they want to have, and that is who I want in NASL. And if you think your good enough to join them, then you should be confidant enough to shell out 10$ | ||
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
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sleigh bells
United States358 Posts
On June 07 2011 11:39 DueSs wrote: you realize that these people will say/do just about anything just to troll you/NASL, right? I really can't imagine anyone HONESTLY thinking 10$ is unreasonable. i never said $10 is unreasonable. just wish people would stop insulting other people's intelligence by saying HERP DERP IT'S TO MAKE PEOPLE SHOW UP. whatever incontrol's a big boy, no need for people to call everyone who has any problem with NASL "trolling." even if his reasoning is wrong. if you keep the money, you clearly have some reason besides ensuring people show up. simple. those reasons are FINE. i don't really care. but they are there. granted super nitpicky, i no longer care | ||
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Bonkarooni
United States383 Posts
On June 06 2011 15:52 starcraft911 wrote: This isn't fencing so please think about that before jumping to conclusions. Seems like you're ignorant about how tournaments in sc2 are run. The vast majority of them don't cost money to sign up for. In fact i can't think of any other tournaments that cost money to participate in off the top of my head, although I've seen one or two in the past. Needless to say, a pay to play tournament in SC2 represents ~1-4% of the total sc2 tournaments available in an 'open' setting. When given the choice between signing up for tournaments, the one that costs money to sign up is going to turn away a lot of people like me who are masters, but don't actually have time to 'practice' because of work. If it were free I'd sign up and enjoy myself, but there's no point in paying for a tournament I know I won't be winning in my current state. As for the 'event' costing money I completely agree with you that events cost money, however, online opens don't. They are recouping their money for their main event by using the open qualifiers which isn't really a 'bad business practice', but it's definitely going to drive would be signups away and I'm all for increasing the player base. Most importantly, the prize is a $500 travel stipend which is not the same as $500. There is no cash prize unless you were already planning on going to the event anyways. Right so...You don't think you're going to win, and dont want to dish out the cash to play in a tournament you dont think you can win? So this tournament will only attract people who think they CAN win?. Sounds like a good idea to me to put buy ins for ALL tournaments then... | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On June 07 2011 12:13 Lolsoup wrote: I doubt the 10$ entry fee is to make money, the maintenance required to run a 1,024 player tournament will probably eat a good portion of the money gained, not to mention the fact that it keeps out the non serious participants. Nobody who takes competitive starcraft seriously cares about a 10$ signup. I don't have a problem with the entry fee but if it cost $10,000 to run a 1024 player online tournament then TL would be deep in debt from all those TL opens. It's clearly to make money, but why should we have a problem with NASL making money and not GSL/MLG/all those other e-sports organizations? | ||
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JoeJin
United States77 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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ilmman
364 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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Mithrandror
Belgium85 Posts
btw I am a platinum player | ||
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Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
People moaning about the fee, if you want to play in a tourney for free just keep playing zotac, esl, craftcups like you already doing. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10870 Posts
Are there 1024 players that will pay 10$ to compete in this? Not that it think it's outrageous to put an entry price on a tournament, BUT are there really 1024 people that honestly think they will make it into the top spots? I just don't see 1024 people pay for this when they also can just join up another tourney. Btw: I actually think entry fees for tournaments are a good thing, if most of the entry fee goes directly into the price pool of the tournament. | ||
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Kreb
4834 Posts
If you worked at a restaurant, would you work for free for the greater good of the restaurant business in your town because some people asked you to? Or same question with whatever job you have. | ||
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Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
On June 07 2011 17:50 Velr wrote: The one thing i wonder: Are there 1024 players that will pay 10$ to compete in this? Not that it think it's outrageous to put an entry price on a tournament, BUT are there really 1024 people that honestly think they will make it into the top spots? I just don't see 1024 people pay for this when they also can just join up another tourney. Btw: I actually think entry fees for tournaments are a good thing, if most of the entry fee goes directly into the price pool of the tournament. probably not, then again, if koreans are going to enter too, then they should really fill over half easily. If I was more active and good and in masters id enter just for the experience and to see how far I got. | ||
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
On June 07 2011 17:57 Kreb wrote: Ummm, why are people trying to make it sound like its a bad thing that they're trying to make money off the tournament? Do you have any idea where starcraft2 would be today if people werent trying to make money off it and only did it for nothing? Sure volunteer jobs and all that is great, and I admire people who put a lot of their free time into giving others a good time, but it doesnt make the world go around. If you worked at a restaurant, would you work for free for the greater good of the restaurant business in your town because some people asked you to? Or same question with whatever job you have. There are some in the TL forums are actively wishing for NASL to fail since day 1-1. God knows why. I don't think they even consider how big a blow it will be for the scene if there's a high profile failure. | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On June 07 2011 18:55 m0ck wrote: Wouldn't it make sense to arrange it earlier this month, so that you don't clash with dreamhack and homestory cup? Goodbye best players! Meh. Bad timing. Live and Learn. There are so many big tournaments around I'm not sure how you would dodge them all. | ||
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