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TLOQXC is a really shitty hand in scrabble.
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Is this the last match today?
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artosis trolling tasteless LMAO
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they become even better when they get tired
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On June 05 2011 11:36 Dante08 wrote:
How big is the Halo scene is US?
Pretty big. MLG was quite successful thanks to Halo.
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On June 05 2011 11:32 oogieogie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:29 travis wrote:On June 05 2011 11:27 Golgotha wrote:On June 05 2011 11:25 oogieogie wrote:On June 05 2011 11:23 Fionn wrote:On June 05 2011 11:21 Crumpet wrote:
I personally don't think a legitimate argument can be made that Koreans are overall ahead in the starcraft 2 scene. However, it is a far cry from the dominance they held in Brood War. The matches between top tier foreigners and top tier Koreans are extremely competitive, and I believe the gap will only continue to narrow as esports grows in the west. Throwing up the series results of the koreans is a bit misleading, as many of them were extremly close series that, in my opinion, could have gone the other way a good 50% of the time. Koreans are still far above most of the world except for a few, but it isn't like BW. In BW, if any foreign player even took a game off someone like Bisu at an international event, it would create an uproar. Here, if someone like MC drops a series to Idra, it's not the same thing. SC2 isn't mechanical enough for there to be such a gap. jw but has there been a uproar caused by a foreigner taking a game off someone like Bisu/Flash/Jaedong or some BW pro? no foreigner has beaten a legit BW pro for a long time now. no foreigners have been playing bw in korea for a long time now  towards the no foreigner has beaten a legit BW pro for a long time now...can you remember a time that did happened and it caused a uproar?
Koreans generally felt ashamed if they lost to a foreigner and would feel like they have embarrassed their nation by losing to us. They didn't really have much respect for us at all.
TossGirl cried when she lost to IdrA she felt that bad.
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On June 05 2011 11:36 Radical wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:35 Chainfire99 wrote:On June 05 2011 11:31 Golgotha wrote:On June 05 2011 11:29 Chainfire99 wrote:
Bragging rights? It's not a fair competition. You have pro Korean players who can make a living off of competing in the game...they can afford to practice 60+ hrs a week in gaming houses with several other similarly skilled teammates and coaches overseeing everything. The majority of non-Korean "pros" aren't ableto do the same. Practice and hard work is everything.
IMO the Koreans aren't dominating enough, they shouldn't lose a game EVER. ^lol you clearly do not understand the game very well. Even IDRA said that there it is very difficult to completely dominate the game as a player with near perfect consistency. And yet, the Koreans are showing that they are a cut above the rest. Don't be mad at me be mad at the stats Korea fighting!!!!!! If Non-Koreans could afford team houses and to be able to practice 60+ hrs a week then there would be ZERO difference in skill. Uh there are non-Koreans who live in team houses and can practice as much as they want.
Their practice schedule doesn't compare at all like the Koreans
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On June 05 2011 11:36 Radical wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:35 Chainfire99 wrote:On June 05 2011 11:31 Golgotha wrote:On June 05 2011 11:29 Chainfire99 wrote:
Bragging rights? It's not a fair competition. You have pro Korean players who can make a living off of competing in the game...they can afford to practice 60+ hrs a week in gaming houses with several other similarly skilled teammates and coaches overseeing everything. The majority of non-Korean "pros" aren't ableto do the same. Practice and hard work is everything.
IMO the Koreans aren't dominating enough, they shouldn't lose a game EVER. ^lol you clearly do not understand the game very well. Even IDRA said that there it is very difficult to completely dominate the game as a player with near perfect consistency. And yet, the Koreans are showing that they are a cut above the rest. Don't be mad at me be mad at the stats Korea fighting!!!!!! If Non-Koreans could afford team houses and to be able to practice 60+ hrs a week then there would be ZERO difference in skill. Uh there are non-Koreans who live in team houses and can practice as much as they want.
Too bad they don't.
Asian work ethics goes a long way. 
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On June 05 2011 11:33 setzer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:32 StarStruck wrote:On June 05 2011 11:30 setzer wrote:On June 05 2011 11:29 Devolved wrote:On June 05 2011 11:27 Golgotha wrote:On June 05 2011 11:25 oogieogie wrote:On June 05 2011 11:23 Fionn wrote:On June 05 2011 11:21 Crumpet wrote:
I personally don't think a legitimate argument can be made that Koreans are overall ahead in the starcraft 2 scene. However, it is a far cry from the dominance they held in Brood War. The matches between top tier foreigners and top tier Koreans are extremely competitive, and I believe the gap will only continue to narrow as esports grows in the west. Throwing up the series results of the koreans is a bit misleading, as many of them were extremly close series that, in my opinion, could have gone the other way a good 50% of the time. Koreans are still far above most of the world except for a few, but it isn't like BW. In BW, if any foreign player even took a game off someone like Bisu at an international event, it would create an uproar. Here, if someone like MC drops a series to Idra, it's not the same thing. SC2 isn't mechanical enough for there to be such a gap. jw but has there been a uproar caused by a foreigner taking a game off someone like Bisu/Flash/Jaedong or some BW pro? no foreigner has beaten a legit BW pro for a long time now. Didn't Mondragon beat Jaedong in the last WCG? I can't remember if he just took 1 game or the series though. No, that was a chinese zerg. Mondi beat Savior and that was years ago. -_- What does that have to do with Jaedong?
it pertains to the whole line of what was quoted. JD is irrelevant.
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On June 05 2011 11:37 Jyvblamo wrote:
TLOQXC is a really shitty hand in scrabble.
Alot of win right here
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On June 05 2011 11:37 mpf189 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:36 Radical wrote:On June 05 2011 11:35 Chainfire99 wrote:On June 05 2011 11:31 Golgotha wrote:On June 05 2011 11:29 Chainfire99 wrote:
Bragging rights? It's not a fair competition. You have pro Korean players who can make a living off of competing in the game...they can afford to practice 60+ hrs a week in gaming houses with several other similarly skilled teammates and coaches overseeing everything. The majority of non-Korean "pros" aren't ableto do the same. Practice and hard work is everything.
IMO the Koreans aren't dominating enough, they shouldn't lose a game EVER. ^lol you clearly do not understand the game very well. Even IDRA said that there it is very difficult to completely dominate the game as a player with near perfect consistency. And yet, the Koreans are showing that they are a cut above the rest. Don't be mad at me be mad at the stats Korea fighting!!!!!! If Non-Koreans could afford team houses and to be able to practice 60+ hrs a week then there would be ZERO difference in skill. Uh there are non-Koreans who live in team houses and can practice as much as they want. Their practice schedule doesn't compare at all like the Koreans
Whose fault is that?
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i dont want to be a fortune teller but TLO ll roflstop QXC
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MoonBear's Live Reports hell yeah
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On June 05 2011 11:36 mpf189 wrote:
Two players that have been disappointing everyone lately..
What? Are you paying attention at all? QXC has been doing pretty good minus vs. Drewbie.
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On June 05 2011 11:36 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:35 Medrea wrote:
*switches over to FPS stream*
*Everybody still just nonstop jumps and shit*
"Nope Nothing for me here!" Halo and CoD: B Ops is sadly boring. Didn't MLG have more games last time?
They had Super Smash Bros Brawl a few seasons ago, and I think they had Melee before that.
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On June 05 2011 11:35 Torte de Lini wrote:
Red stream up with QXC vs. TLO
thank you sir, I would have missed it
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On June 05 2011 11:37 Jyvblamo wrote:
TLOQXC is a really shitty hand in scrabble.
CLOT
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On June 05 2011 11:35 baoluvboa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:33 Grapesludge wrote:On June 05 2011 11:23 doffe wrote:On June 05 2011 11:18 Adreme wrote:On June 05 2011 11:15 bluestuff wrote:On June 05 2011 11:12 Adreme wrote:On June 05 2011 11:05 doffe wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 ffadicted wrote:
So at the end of championship pool play, final tally on Korea vs. The World (I've been keeping track since the start)
Moon: 3 - 2
MMA: 5 - 0
July: 4 - 0 (his loss was to a korean)
MC: 4 - 1
Losira: 5 - 0
Koreans: 21 - 3
If you take into account that Moon isn't even good enough for Code A, and that MC said he was extremely jet lagged against grack, I think we can end the argument here. The gap IS huge.
Korea FIGHTIN!! ^^; Its fun how ju count MMAs win against July but not Julys loss.... anyways 20-3 is still pretty awsome It kinda went how it was expected to go though it went pretty awesome for the Koreans. The way I see it only 3 people at MLG (in the pool play) have a shot at taking down MMA July MC and Losira. Those 3 are Naniwa, Idra and Thorzain. Idra and Nani won there groups and Thorzain was in Idras group. Now I know other players have a shot at taking a Bo3 off of them (Sjow who should have beaten MMA and Morrow if he can get out of the Losers Bracket) but lets not pretend they sent over just anyone MMA has possibly the best TvT in Korea and has shown that he can crush high level zergs as well. MC is the best protoss in Korea without question. Losira is probably the 2nd best zerg is korea and if hes not the 2nd best then Julyzerg is. So the only people who can beat the top koreans are the top non koreans. a certain someone named nestea might wanna disagree with you about being the number one zerg player in Korea >=/ I didnt say number 1 for either Losira or July. I said either one of them is up for debate for being the 2nd best zerg in korea fully aware that NesTea is the best. Its hard to argue that July and Losira are the 2nd and 3rd best zergs in korea. well, Id say that there are plenty other zergs competing over that spot aswell. SlayersMin is one I have a feeling that the zerg player called DongRaeGu is going to pop out soon and dominate. I don't know, there's just something about his style of play that makes me feel like he's going to be one of the best zergs of the game. Idk if you have watched his stream but it is amazing how fast he is
Can you please link that? I was so inspired at the the way he played in the GSTL
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Liquid`TLO vs 
