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redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 04:15:05
December 11 2011 04:14 GMT
#7701
Wow that CS match looked so one sided. (I think it was CS, I know nothing about FPS).
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
December 11 2011 04:15 GMT
#7702
map order for the finals: shakuras, metal, shattered
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
LeaD
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada464 Posts
December 11 2011 04:15 GMT
#7703
On December 11 2011 13:14 redviper wrote:
Wow that CS match looked so one sided. (I think it was CS, I know nothing about FPS).


CS is very momentum based, but losing so many rounds CT side on train really didn't help the losing team :/.
HerbalTylenol
Profile Joined September 2010
62 Posts
December 11 2011 04:16 GMT
#7704
On December 11 2011 13:15 Antoine wrote:
map order for the finals: shakuras, metal, shattered

I think MVP is going to 2 base push for easy win on Shattered. Calling it now!
nofacej
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia164 Posts
December 11 2011 04:17 GMT
#7705
I'm hoping for mass Ghost on Metal.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
December 11 2011 04:22 GMT
#7706
its harsh when you get bomb planted on you and lose the first round as ct. but just save/lose 2 more rounds and ur GOOD TO GO!.


im thinking mvp is gonna 2rax bunker on shakuras and secure a 1-0 lead.
EricFartman
Profile Joined April 2010
China76 Posts
December 11 2011 04:24 GMT
#7707
i think there are all T-MAP
hansel01
Profile Joined December 2011
47 Posts
December 11 2011 04:24 GMT
#7708
On December 11 2011 13:11 ChapatiyaqPTSM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 13:10 hansel01 wrote:
BO3 is very lol, the whole tournament makes MLG / IEM etc... look like geniuses!

MLG is also BO3, only BO7 in extended series.


Double elim makes a big difference imo
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
December 11 2011 04:25 GMT
#7709
On December 11 2011 13:24 EricFartman wrote:
i think there are all T-MAP


They are forced cross spawns so Meta is quite nice for Z.
MMA: The true King of Wings
HerbalTylenol
Profile Joined September 2010
62 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 04:26:27
December 11 2011 04:26 GMT
#7710
lol @ the bank robber in the audience sipping his juice box
LeaD
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada464 Posts
December 11 2011 04:26 GMT
#7711
On December 11 2011 13:24 EricFartman wrote:
i think there are all T-MAP


Are you saying all the maps are T-Maps or that there are T favored maps? The latter is true and the former is not .
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
December 11 2011 04:28 GMT
#7712
So they alternate terrorists and counter terrorists in a single map or do they alternate maps?
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
December 11 2011 04:29 GMT
#7713
LOL at KR Caster (again)
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
December 11 2011 04:29 GMT
#7714
even though they looked great on the first map offstage, ESC is choking on the main stage..
LeaD
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada464 Posts
December 11 2011 04:29 GMT
#7715
On December 11 2011 13:28 redviper wrote:
So they alternate terrorists and counter terrorists in a single map or do they alternate maps?


They alternate sides every 15 rounds on one map.
frequency
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1901 Posts
December 11 2011 04:31 GMT
#7716
On December 11 2011 13:28 redviper wrote:
So they alternate terrorists and counter terrorists in a single map or do they alternate maps?


They do a knife round before the match, winner of that round picks which side they start on.

From there it's 15 rounds on each side, first to 16 rounds wins the match.
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WCX
Profile Joined July 2011
74 Posts
December 11 2011 04:32 GMT
#7717
LOL, that was a funny match just now, with the 1 guy hiding behind the door, 2 T's sneaking up, and all hell breaking loose.
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
December 11 2011 04:35 GMT
#7718
Here's a short interview with XiGua done by a Chinese magazine (ESPORTS Magazine or something) (I presume, judging by the interviewer's name) just today/end of yesterday.


Q: Please give us a brief overview of your games today.

A: The Ro16 was a ZvZ (Snute), Ro8 was a ZvZ with F91 (91 Bro ), and a ZvP (vs TitaN) in the semifinals. Actually I was most nervous during the first series, made a lot of mistakes, but thankfully the opponent made more mistakes and I was able to come back. I felt very conflicted against F91, because he is a very strong player, but I was able to play to the best of my abilities and was quite lucky to get the win.

In the (first game of the) last series against the Protoss, he expo'd off a single gas, which is very vulnerable to ling rushes, but has a very good economy if he's able to get his expansion running. So I decided to rush him and take the win.

In the second game he chose the same single gas expansion opening, but I thought he wouldn't make the same mistake twice, so I decided to not rush him, but expand and play a macro game. After I scouted him trying to get a third with Stalkers and Immortals, I took advantage of the timing with a ling bane roach attack and took the game.

Q: You are playing against MVP tomorrow, how are you planning to deal with him?
A: Actually my ZvT could still use some improvements. But I've thought about how to play against MVP since the first game I got here, because I must think about how to defeat Korean Terrans. But I didn't expect two of them (MKP and Supernova) to be eliminated and only meet one in the finals. I have made special preparations for MVP, I'll do my best!

Q: You haven't dropped a game from the group stages to the finals, how do you think you've accomplished this?
A: I feel that I'm playing very well at the moment, because I'm very good at offline tournaments. Not sure why, but I get nervous in online tournaments. But offline I don't feel so nervous somehow, because I can't be happy until I've won.

Q: NeoTV's Xiaose (Chinese caster) revealed yesterday that you played 80 games (a day) in practice and have a rank 1 Korea Server account, is it true?
A: Haha, not quite 80, that would probably kill me. Usually 40 to 60, but maybe 80 at most. But I've got an account, top 20 Korea.
(T/N: not too certain on Chinese internet lingo of 马甲, might mean account, might mean achievement end of season badge thing)

Q: All the Chinese SC2 players performed very well this time, thoughts?
A: I think one of the main reasons is the map pool. Chinese tournaments use very weird maps, and it's very hard to practice for them, and whenever we play IEM or MLG we encounter maps we've never played on before so it's very easy to lose matches.

WCG has a lot of more common maps, like ladder maps such as Metalopolis. Moreover the three Chinese players all feel like the type to excel at offline tournaments.

Q: Are the Western players' skills similar to your previous perceptions?
A: Actually I didn't expect them to be this good, I've always thought Western players to be inferior to Chinese players, but this tournament they've really made me feel they are very good at this game and have a very unique understanding of the game.

Q: Sky lost his War3 finals today, did that affect you? Anything you want to say?
A: It didn't affect me, I was very disappointed that Sky lost, just a step away from three Championships.

Q: Final fighting words for the finals?
A: Play to the best of my ability!


XIGUA FIGHTING! 加油!
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requieml
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada72 Posts
December 11 2011 04:37 GMT
#7719
On December 11 2011 13:35 Mobius_1 wrote:
Here's a short interview with XiGua done by a Chinese magazine (ESPORTS Magazine or something) (I presume, judging by the interviewer's name) just today/end of yesterday.


Q: Please give us a brief overview of your games today.

A: The Ro16 was a ZvZ (Snute), Ro8 was a ZvZ with F91 (91 Bro ), and a ZvP (vs TitaN) in the semifinals. Actually I was most nervous during the first series, made a lot of mistakes, but thankfully the opponent made more mistakes and I was able to come back. I felt very conflicted against F91, because he is a very strong player, but I was able to play to the best of my abilities and was quite lucky to get the win.

In the (first game of the) last series against the Protoss, he expo'd off a single gas, which is very vulnerable to ling rushes, but has a very good economy if he's able to get his expansion running. So I decided to rush him and take the win.

In the second game he chose the same single gas expansion opening, but I thought he wouldn't make the same mistake twice, so I decided to not rush him, but expand and play a macro game. After I scouted him trying to get a third with Stalkers and Immortals, I took advantage of the timing with a ling bane roach attack and took the game.

Q: You are playing against MVP tomorrow, how are you planning to deal with him?
A: Actually my ZvT could still use some improvements. But I've thought about how to play against MVP since the first game I got here, because I must think about how to defeat Korean Terrans. But I didn't expect two of them (MKP and Supernova) to be eliminated and only meet one in the finals. I have made special preparations for MVP, I'll do my best!

Q: You haven't dropped a game from the group stages to the finals, how do you think you've accomplished this?
A: I feel that I'm playing very well at the moment, because I'm very good at offline tournaments. Not sure why, but I get nervous in online tournaments. But offline I don't feel so nervous somehow, because I can't be happy until I've won.

Q: NeoTV's Xiaose (Chinese caster) revealed yesterday that you played 80 games (a day) in practice and have a rank 1 Korea Server account, is it true?
A: Haha, not quite 80, that would probably kill me. Usually 40 to 60, but maybe 80 at most. But I've got an account, top 20 Korea.
(T/N: not too certain on Chinese internet lingo of 马甲, might mean account, might mean achievement end of season badge thing)

Q: All the Chinese SC2 players performed very well this time, thoughts?
A: I think one of the main reasons is the map pool. Chinese tournaments use very weird maps, and it's very hard to practice for them, and whenever we play IEM or MLG we encounter maps we've never played on before so it's very easy to lose matches.

WCG has a lot of more common maps, like ladder maps such as Metalopolis. Moreover the three Chinese players all feel like the type to excel at offline tournaments.

Q: Are the Western players' skills similar to your previous perceptions?
A: Actually I didn't expect them to be this good, I've always thought Western players to be inferior to Chinese players, but this tournament they've really made me feel they are very good at this game and have a very unique understanding of the game.

Q: Sky lost his War3 finals today, did that affect you? Anything you want to say?
A: It didn't affect me, I was very disappointed that Sky lost, just a step away from three Championships.

Q: Final fighting words for the finals?
A: Play to the best of my ability!


XIGUA FIGHTING! 加油!



nice translation, thanks but 马甲 means SMURF account pretty much
Ryung/Bomber/MMA Fighting!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
December 11 2011 04:38 GMT
#7720
Mobius_1, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=293523

Thanks tho, good interview!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
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