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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 05:36:03
December 09 2011 05:34 GMT
#3501
On December 09 2011 14:33 R!! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 14:30 babylon wrote:
On December 09 2011 14:26 R!! wrote:
On December 09 2011 14:17 Azarkon wrote:
On December 09 2011 14:14 frequency wrote:
On December 09 2011 14:10 R!! wrote:
On December 09 2011 14:06 frequency wrote:
This is Sky's fourth WCG grand final.

WCG may have the most prestige but it's never been the hardest tournament out there, rotterdam is completely overhyping this achievement by saying that it makes Sky the most accomplished wc3 player, Moon is definetely more accomplished with Grubby being a close 2nd.


Of course, I don't think Sky is more accomplished than Moon or Grubby, but when it comes to WCG he is probably the most successful player across any game (maybe the German FIFA twins also). And you can't really blame him for hyping it, imagine if PuMa makes the finals of NASL 3 (and 4 if it happens), saying that "oh well, it isn't the hardest tournament" is undermining his performance.


Hmm, WCG is probably close to being the hardest WC 3 tournament around. The players treat it a lot more seriously because WCG in WC 3 is like their most prestigious tournament. Hence you might see someone slump all year long because he's taking it easy, but suddenly come WCG time he's back and training hard. Lyn and Moon are kind of like that. They've made the switch to SC 2 but come WCG time they go back to playing WC 3.

No, it's not even close to the hardest wc3 tournament, maybe it is these days, when there's in fact no tournaments around.

All the same players are pretty much invited to every other War3 tournament out there in China so the level of difficulty isn't that different from any other tournament nowadays. G-League has a more impressive line-up right now, I think. (Infi's participating, for one.) The qualifiers for the War3 WCG for China and Korea were pretty much considered harder than the actual WCG in the past years.

Moon and Grubby are by far the most accomplished, but you can make an argument for Sky. In the end, it's really just the triumvirate of Moon, Grubby, Sky that always comes up.

IMO this WCG has been pretty sub-par so far. Only Fly and Lyn look like they're in shape; everyone else is just playing very sloppy (e.g. TH000, Moon, even Sky doesn't look that great despite getting to the finals).
The sad part is that moon didn't even make it to the playoffs after such a domination in wcg korea.

Yeah, but that's how it is in War3. You have one bad day where you're not microing perfectly, and you're out. Not necessarily because the game is volatile, but because everyone's micro is so stellar these days that War3's more about perfect play more than anything else, especially with the metagame stagnating as it is.

Moon looked so good in the qualifiers vs. Lyn, though. Sigggghhhh. Like ... Fifth Race era good.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 09 2011 05:34 GMT
#3502
there goes the nuke and he almost lost all the ghosts.

DF takes the ghosts and stops the nuke! :D
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
December 09 2011 05:34 GMT
#3503
wtf MKP lol. You do this in a Bo1....
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
December 09 2011 05:35 GMT
#3504
Tht was really bad micro by MKP
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
December 09 2011 05:35 GMT
#3505
and that's why u dont go nukes.
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
claash
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland472 Posts
December 09 2011 05:35 GMT
#3506
On December 09 2011 14:31 star2craft wrote:
it starts!!!

who is darkforce ? is he better than TLO?


who is darkforce xd
that was cute
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
December 09 2011 05:35 GMT
#3507
i think MKP did that build because he assumed darkforce is some scrub lol
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 09 2011 05:35 GMT
#3508
hahaha wtf is marineking doing? He must be pretty confident or something
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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
December 09 2011 05:35 GMT
#3509
MKP what kind of build is that? you can't toy with foreigners quite like that to be honest
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
December 09 2011 05:35 GMT
#3510
I hate it when MKP pulls this type of shit in group stages. If he loses it's about time karma bites him in the ass.
Bromazepam
Profile Joined August 2011
820 Posts
December 09 2011 05:35 GMT
#3511
WCG observer should press Ctrl-n, since there is no other way for us to read the supply otherwise...

I never thought I'd miss GOMTV's quality...
Saying that something is killing esports is killing esports.
InvalidID
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1050 Posts
December 09 2011 05:36 GMT
#3512
On December 09 2011 14:29 frequency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 14:27 Truthful wrote:
hey so i never really got into wc3 but seeing it casted looked pretty cool ... can someone recommend me some good casted games to see? pref of moon, thanks


Grubby has done some commentaries of his games in the past. Quite good since he explains so much stuff very highly in depth.


As there original guy wanted moon, here is grubby vs moon from that commentary series:
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 09 2011 05:36 GMT
#3513
Marineking going mech when being way behind? I have a feeling Darkforce is going to win this one...
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 09 2011 05:36 GMT
#3514
Guess who's watching MKP versus DF O:

They're HERE.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
December 09 2011 05:36 GMT
#3515
On December 09 2011 14:36 InvalidID wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 14:29 frequency wrote:
On December 09 2011 14:27 Truthful wrote:
hey so i never really got into wc3 but seeing it casted looked pretty cool ... can someone recommend me some good casted games to see? pref of moon, thanks


Grubby has done some commentaries of his games in the past. Quite good since he explains so much stuff very highly in depth.


As there original guy wanted moon, here is grubby vs moon from that commentary series: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdCIcYZ0Xog&feature=channel_video_title

Also want to add that if you're interested in more War3, check up stonebreakkid's or Chumpesque's casts on Youtube.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
December 09 2011 05:37 GMT
#3516
Supernova just lost to xEi
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
dainbramage
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia1442 Posts
December 09 2011 05:37 GMT
#3517
On December 09 2011 14:35 Bromazepam wrote:
WCG observer should press Ctrl-n, since there is no other way for us to read the supply otherwise...

I never thought I'd miss GOMTV's quality...


It reminds me of GOMTV's old free BW stream
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 09 2011 05:37 GMT
#3518
xEi beats SuperNoVa!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 05:37:50
December 09 2011 05:37 GMT
#3519
both koreans might lose right now. supernova taking a lot of damage from xei

and xei wins
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Truthful
Profile Joined January 2011
United States38 Posts
December 09 2011 05:37 GMT
#3520
On December 09 2011 14:36 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 14:36 InvalidID wrote:
On December 09 2011 14:29 frequency wrote:
On December 09 2011 14:27 Truthful wrote:
hey so i never really got into wc3 but seeing it casted looked pretty cool ... can someone recommend me some good casted games to see? pref of moon, thanks


Grubby has done some commentaries of his games in the past. Quite good since he explains so much stuff very highly in depth.


As there original guy wanted moon, here is grubby vs moon from that commentary series: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdCIcYZ0Xog&feature=channel_video_title

Also want to add that if you're interested in more War3, check up stonebreakkid's or Chumpesque's casts on Youtube.



thanks ^_^
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