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frequency
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1901 Posts
December 09 2011 05:29 GMT
#3481
On December 09 2011 14:27 Truthful wrote:
hey so i never really got into wc3 but seeing it casted looked pretty cool ... can someone recommend me some good casted games to see? pref of moon, thanks


Grubby has done some commentaries of his games in the past. Quite good since he explains so much stuff very highly in depth.
www.twitter.com/marconofrio | marconofrio.tumblr.com
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 05:31:31
December 09 2011 05:30 GMT
#3482
On December 09 2011 14:26 R!! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 14:17 Azarkon wrote:
On December 09 2011 14:14 frequency wrote:
On December 09 2011 14:10 R!! wrote:
On December 09 2011 14:06 frequency wrote:
This is Sky's fourth WCG grand final.

WCG may have the most prestige but it's never been the hardest tournament out there, rotterdam is completely overhyping this achievement by saying that it makes Sky the most accomplished wc3 player, Moon is definetely more accomplished with Grubby being a close 2nd.


Of course, I don't think Sky is more accomplished than Moon or Grubby, but when it comes to WCG he is probably the most successful player across any game (maybe the German FIFA twins also). And you can't really blame him for hyping it, imagine if PuMa makes the finals of NASL 3 (and 4 if it happens), saying that "oh well, it isn't the hardest tournament" is undermining his performance.


Hmm, WCG is probably close to being the hardest WC 3 tournament around. The players treat it a lot more seriously because WCG in WC 3 is like their most prestigious tournament. Hence you might see someone slump all year long because he's taking it easy, but suddenly come WCG time he's back and training hard. Lyn and Moon are kind of like that. They've made the switch to SC 2 but come WCG time they go back to playing WC 3.

No, it's not even close to the hardest wc3 tournament, maybe it is these days, when there's in fact no tournaments around.

All the same players are pretty much invited to every other War3 tournament out there in China so the level of difficulty isn't that different from any other tournament nowadays. G-League has a more impressive line-up right now, I think. (Infi's participating, for one.) The qualifiers for the War3 WCG for China and Korea were pretty much considered harder than the actual WCG in the past years.

Moon and Grubby are by far the most accomplished, but you can make an argument for Sky. In the end, it's really just the triumvirate of Moon, Grubby, Sky that always comes up.

IMO this WCG has been pretty sub-par so far. Only Fly and Lyn look like they're in shape; everyone else is just playing very sloppy (e.g. TH000, Moon, even Sky doesn't look that great despite getting to the finals).
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 09 2011 05:30 GMT
#3483
MKP versus DF on main with Tasteless and Artosis.

SuperNova versus xEi offstage.
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
December 09 2011 05:31 GMT
#3484
Haha what's with the quality? Are the OGN guys trying to make it look more like BW? xD.
Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
December 09 2011 05:31 GMT
#3485
"If you kill off one of your opponent's drones, that's one less drone for your opponent."

Wise words from Artosis.
star2craft
Profile Joined May 2011
30 Posts
December 09 2011 05:31 GMT
#3486
it starts!!!

who is darkforce ? is he better than TLO?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 09 2011 05:32 GMT
#3487
1 base ghost by mkp
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
December 09 2011 05:32 GMT
#3488
ghost academy!!!
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
December 09 2011 05:32 GMT
#3489
is it just me or xei is about to give the biggest upset of the tournament??
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
December 09 2011 05:32 GMT
#3490
MKP doing the build MVP wanted to do against Leenock?
the farm ends here
Silan
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark198 Posts
December 09 2011 05:32 GMT
#3491
cmon MKP, win this so babyknight can win the next game and go to playoffs .
Life is one crushing defeat after another until you just wish flanders was dead. - Homer
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 09 2011 05:32 GMT
#3492
On December 09 2011 14:31 star2craft wrote:
it starts!!!

who is darkforce ? is he better than TLO?

yes. he's a solid german zerg. he's probably most known in the foreign community (at least USA) for beating Alive in NASL Season 1 Main event
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
anrimayu
Profile Joined June 2011
United States875 Posts
December 09 2011 05:32 GMT
#3493
Ooh thats darkforce. With such crappy resolution, the name looks like darldorce, so I didnt know who it was.
☆*:.。. o(≧▽≦)o .。.:*☆
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
December 09 2011 05:33 GMT
#3494
should be - nuke front, then free pass for mass hellions
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 09 2011 05:33 GMT
#3495
On December 09 2011 14:31 star2craft wrote:
it starts!!!

who is darkforce ? is he better than TLO?


I would say DF's zerg is better than TLO's. Yes. German Zerg.
R!!
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil938 Posts
December 09 2011 05:33 GMT
#3496
On December 09 2011 14:30 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 14:26 R!! wrote:
On December 09 2011 14:17 Azarkon wrote:
On December 09 2011 14:14 frequency wrote:
On December 09 2011 14:10 R!! wrote:
On December 09 2011 14:06 frequency wrote:
This is Sky's fourth WCG grand final.

WCG may have the most prestige but it's never been the hardest tournament out there, rotterdam is completely overhyping this achievement by saying that it makes Sky the most accomplished wc3 player, Moon is definetely more accomplished with Grubby being a close 2nd.


Of course, I don't think Sky is more accomplished than Moon or Grubby, but when it comes to WCG he is probably the most successful player across any game (maybe the German FIFA twins also). And you can't really blame him for hyping it, imagine if PuMa makes the finals of NASL 3 (and 4 if it happens), saying that "oh well, it isn't the hardest tournament" is undermining his performance.


Hmm, WCG is probably close to being the hardest WC 3 tournament around. The players treat it a lot more seriously because WCG in WC 3 is like their most prestigious tournament. Hence you might see someone slump all year long because he's taking it easy, but suddenly come WCG time he's back and training hard. Lyn and Moon are kind of like that. They've made the switch to SC 2 but come WCG time they go back to playing WC 3.

No, it's not even close to the hardest wc3 tournament, maybe it is these days, when there's in fact no tournaments around.

All the same players are pretty much invited to every other War3 tournament out there in China so the level of difficulty isn't that different from any other tournament nowadays. G-League has a more impressive line-up right now, I think. (Infi's participating, for one.) The qualifiers for the War3 WCG for China and Korea were pretty much considered harder than the actual WCG in the past years.

Moon and Grubby are by far the most accomplished, but you can make an argument for Sky. In the end, it's really just the triumvirate of Moon, Grubby, Sky that always comes up.

IMO this WCG has been pretty sub-par so far. Only Fly and Lyn look like they're in shape; everyone else is just playing very sloppy (e.g. TH000, Moon, even Sky doesn't look that great despite getting to the finals).
The sad part is that moon didn't even make it to the playoffs after such a domination in wcg korea.
I like the part where sense is considered a common, settled thing.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 09 2011 05:33 GMT
#3497
mkp does the best builds
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Wafflelisk
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada1061 Posts
December 09 2011 05:34 GMT
#3498
I just realized that I had no idea what DarkForce looked like
Waffles > Pancakes
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
December 09 2011 05:34 GMT
#3499
Nuke rush!
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
December 09 2011 05:34 GMT
#3500
MarineKing doing his crazy shenanigans
Someone call down the Thunder?
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