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On May 17 2011 19:00 Full.tilt wrote:Really like that Queens + Brood Lords tactic, maybe not as extreme as when Spanishiwa does it but probably safer for Bboong when he has some roaches as well 
I can't wait until spanishiwa's double nydus/queen/broodlord slow pushes make a splash in televised games.
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On May 17 2011 19:01 Stanlot wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 19:00 Morale wrote: Is Tastosis gunna be casting any of the GSTL days? I think they handle semis and finals. And you would be right
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On May 17 2011 19:02 Goibon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 19:00 Happy Frog wrote: Nice in game BM, he's got potential, but he really should have made those changelings /dance, I like his spirit but he's going to need to bring more to the table than that if he wants to progress to Code S level BM 10/10 :D Was it bomber who danced in front of the other team that one time? yea it was ST.Bomber, who beat Losira cause he did /dance (which cost him the game essentially) >_>;
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On May 17 2011 19:03 Maskedsatyr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 19:01 Stanlot wrote:On May 17 2011 19:00 Morale wrote: Is Tastosis gunna be casting any of the GSTL days? I think they handle semis and finals. And you would be right Is there a post or something which confirms this? I can't find anything yet =/
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On May 17 2011 19:01 AndAgain wrote: Coaches are really good at sending players nobody wants to see. wp.
GSTL seems to be a place for newer players who are hit or miss in the Code A qualifiers / Code A to get some real tournament experience under the belt. And practice dealing with the pressure of playing in front of a live audience and cameras. Also, the GSTL probably gives the more upper deck pro players a break from the pressure of Code A / Code S to focus on practice and chillin.
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they should update their intro ....
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On May 17 2011 19:00 aScle wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 18:59 Sqq wrote:On May 17 2011 18:58 branflakes14 wrote: Why on earth don't more Zerg players use Transfuse, that looked so strong. because if that attack failed from the Zerg, he would be left with 0 queens. And suddenly the Protoss is back in the fight. yes because zergs are only allowed to make one queen per hatch... o wait
Actually given Zerg units in general (and especially roaches) are pretty cost inefficient you don't want a ton of queens (unless doing some crazy queen attack build on small maps). Most often you will see players get 3-4 on 2 base for early defense but then move those extras to the next bases instead of making new ones because they take up valuable supply.
As for the use of transfuse, it is great on broodlords or ultras, watch some spanishiwa games, he is actually pretty good about doing that. In fact it seems more important on ultras where 1 ultra with a ton of energy on queens ends up soaking up all the damage from a Terran army as the ultra/ling closes in.
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On May 17 2011 18:58 quiet noise wrote: wow, when was the last time a protoss beat a zerg in GSL/GSTL? the meta game is clearly shifting.
Inca beat Losira just over a week ago I think.
Other than that, the last PvZ was the finals.
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On May 17 2011 19:03 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 19:01 AndAgain wrote: Coaches are really good at sending players nobody wants to see. wp. GSTL seems to be a place for newer players who are hit or miss in the Code A qualifiers / Code A to get some real tournament experience under the belt. And practice dealing with the pressure of playing in front of a live audience and cameras. Also, the GSTL probably gives the more upper deck pro players a break from the pressure of Code A / Code S to focus on practice and chillin. Code A prims are ACTUALLY hard, so... yea (qualifiers are hard from what IMYongHwa said >_>)
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Queens take up army supply while being only situationally useful within an army - with Ultralisks and Broodlords.
There is no reason to make Queens in the midgame.
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On May 17 2011 19:02 Goibon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 19:00 Happy Frog wrote: Nice in game BM, he's got potential, but he really should have made those changelings /dance, I like his spirit but he's going to need to bring more to the table than that if he wants to progress to Code S level BM 10/10 :D Was it bomber who danced in front of the other team that one time?
I can't recall exactly but Losira making his units dance, then proceeding to lose and his opponent doing it back to him was pretty great.
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On May 17 2011 19:03 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 19:01 AndAgain wrote: Coaches are really good at sending players nobody wants to see. wp. GSTL seems to be a place for newer players who are hit or miss in the Code A qualifiers / Code A to get some real tournament experience under the belt. And practice dealing with the pressure of playing in front of a live audience and cameras. Also, the GSTL probably gives the more upper deck pro players a break from the pressure of Code A / Code S to focus on practice and chillin.
This seems to be the standard. Some of the newer Code S and Code A has had their breakthrough in the GSTL. Its the reason why I kind of like the GSTL. They send out the hard hitters when they need too.
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On May 17 2011 19:02 Dingobloo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 19:00 Full.tilt wrote:Really like that Queens + Brood Lords tactic, maybe not as extreme as when Spanishiwa does it but probably safer for Bboong when he has some roaches as well  I can't wait until spanishiwa's double nydus/queen/broodlord slow pushes make a splash in televised games.
I was about to say, Spanishiwa is having great success with 6-7 queens. In early games they defend against pretty much anything, you get sick creep spread and then later on you can transfuse. And the 10 supply for 5 transfuse are worth it I think (only if you go high-hp units like ultras or broods of course). You don't need to remax if your units never die.
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On May 17 2011 19:02 Dingobloo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 19:00 Full.tilt wrote:Really like that Queens + Brood Lords tactic, maybe not as extreme as when Spanishiwa does it but probably safer for Bboong when he has some roaches as well  I can't wait until spanishiwa's double nydus/queen/broodlord slow pushes make a splash in televised games. dont hold your breathe that style is for beating bads on ladder, not pro play.
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On May 17 2011 19:02 Asha` wrote: Oooh Noblesse, I really like some of his play, hoping for a win here from him then =)
Wasn't Noblesse the guy who went for fast Ghosts in a TvT and EMP'd a bunch of Banshees while sniping Marines? If so I hope we get to see some Ghost play in TvZ too!
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On May 17 2011 19:04 Scribble wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 18:58 quiet noise wrote: wow, when was the last time a protoss beat a zerg in GSL/GSTL? the meta game is clearly shifting. Inca beat Losira just over a week ago I think. Other than that, the last PvZ was the finals. Sc beat Losira, InCa has yet to beat a zerg.
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BoongBoong looks pretty confident
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On May 17 2011 19:02 Dingobloo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 19:00 Full.tilt wrote:Really like that Queens + Brood Lords tactic, maybe not as extreme as when Spanishiwa does it but probably safer for Bboong when he has some roaches as well  I can't wait until spanishiwa's double nydus/queen/broodlord slow pushes make a splash in televised games.
Hasn't it been proven already that Spanishiwa-style isn't viable anywhere but on NA ladder, against some below average Masters.
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On May 17 2011 19:05 branflakes14 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 19:02 Asha` wrote: Oooh Noblesse, I really like some of his play, hoping for a win here from him then =) Wasn't Noblesse the guy who went for fast Ghosts in a TvT and EMP'd a bunch of Banshees while sniping Marines? If so I hope we get to see some Ghost play in TvZ too! yes, against Maka.
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On May 17 2011 19:05 Sqq wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 19:03 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:On May 17 2011 19:01 AndAgain wrote: Coaches are really good at sending players nobody wants to see. wp. GSTL seems to be a place for newer players who are hit or miss in the Code A qualifiers / Code A to get some real tournament experience under the belt. And practice dealing with the pressure of playing in front of a live audience and cameras. Also, the GSTL probably gives the more upper deck pro players a break from the pressure of Code A / Code S to focus on practice and chillin. This seems to be the standard. Some of the newer Code S and Code A has had their breakthrough in the GSTL. Its the reason why I kind of like the GSTL. They send out the hard hitters when they need too.
Plus, who says these are players noone wants to see! I want to see them!
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