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da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
May 14 2011 20:22 GMT
#1341
On May 15 2011 05:21 Chainfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 05:18 Lorizean wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:16 Chainfire99 wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:13 iNbluE wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:11 Chainfire99 wrote:
I am not whining about balance just foolish people who ignore vikings/medivacs/ and ghosts and label terran armies as just t1.


Vikings are tier zero when facing gateway units


You need a barrack, factory, then a starport therefore medivacs and vikings are t3 technically speaking.


I've personally never been to comfortable with the tiers in Starcraft. In WC3 it was pretty easy to classify builds by main building tiers, but in sc thats only possible with Zerg. I mean, yeah, technically medivacs are t3, but are they comparable (in tier) to ultras/broods? I think not...



True it could be argued that although technically vikings/medivacs are t3...they are weaker compared to other races' t3 units (outside of thors and bc's which are useless in certain match ups). I just wish thors didn't have soo much energy...so that HT feedback wouldn't outright rape them and that BC's were easier to transition into. But regardless PvT is pretty balanced...just requires Terran to do a lot of efficient drops.

ultras and broods are tier 3.5, not tier 3. (require hive and greater spire/ultra cavern)

When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 14 2011 20:22 GMT
#1342
On May 15 2011 05:21 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 05:20 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:19 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:17 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:16 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:15 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:14 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:13 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:12 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:12 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

2:30

kas finishes his rax / gas



3:00

Hasu getting his cyber core out now

tech lab going down on the barracks for kas


3:40

Kas getting a reaper


5:00

Stim starting for kas

reaper picks off Hasu's scouting probe




7:00

Hasu's Nexus finishes and now getting his obs out


9:00

Robo bay finishing for hasu


10:00

Kas getting his third

Hasu scouts it


12:30

+1 weapon on the way for hasu

+1 armour on the way for kas

more colossi on the way for hasu


14:30

Big engagement

all colossi and vikings are taken out at the end


16:00

+1 armour for hasu




17:00

Charge, storm and immortals coming out for hasu

Kas taking out hasu's third
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
May 14 2011 20:22 GMT
#1343
that was a genius probe split ^_^
The universe created an audience for itself.
Cofo
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1388 Posts
May 14 2011 20:22 GMT
#1344
Cute probe hiding by Hasu.
+ Show Spoiler +
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
May 14 2011 20:22 GMT
#1345
bronze players criticizing again page after page two of the best players in europe
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/hunter692007/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
tetracycloide
Profile Joined July 2010
295 Posts
May 14 2011 20:22 GMT
#1346
Why take that third? Seriously, why?
My vanity is justified
KosQ
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany223 Posts
May 14 2011 20:23 GMT
#1347
On May 15 2011 05:22 Elefanto wrote:
hasus micro is so fucking good
he outmicros kas in every engagement
really nice to look at :O

Just like in his good old Warcraft3 times
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
May 14 2011 20:23 GMT
#1348
On May 15 2011 05:20 Ojahh wrote:
OMG so many roasted marauder..

and 30k viewers BOOM

edit> and then the collosi die


I wonder how many more there would be if there wasn't Eurovision atm :p
"Yeah buddy"
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
May 14 2011 20:23 GMT
#1349
kas minutes seems to be numbered
dr Helvetica <3
Glaven
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada554 Posts
May 14 2011 20:23 GMT
#1350
Really nice ninja probes hasu!
Special Tactics
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
May 14 2011 20:23 GMT
#1351
Kas fighting! cmon
Meh.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
May 14 2011 20:23 GMT
#1352
Mass mmm + vikings again! sigh!

Hasuobs should know this by now, but I think the map favors Kas a lot.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
R3N
Profile Joined March 2011
740 Posts
May 14 2011 20:23 GMT
#1353
On May 15 2011 05:22 MYM.ClouD wrote:
bronze players criticizing again page after page two of the best players in europe


bold statement. I get it though :p
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 14 2011 20:23 GMT
#1354
On May 15 2011 05:22 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 05:21 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:20 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:19 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:17 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:16 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:15 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:14 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:13 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:12 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

3:00

Hasu getting his cyber core out now

tech lab going down on the barracks for kas


3:40

Kas getting a reaper


5:00

Stim starting for kas

reaper picks off Hasu's scouting probe




7:00

Hasu's Nexus finishes and now getting his obs out


9:00

Robo bay finishing for hasu


10:00

Kas getting his third

Hasu scouts it


12:30

+1 weapon on the way for hasu

+1 armour on the way for kas

more colossi on the way for hasu


14:30

Big engagement

all colossi and vikings are taken out at the end


16:00

+1 armour for hasu




17:00

Charge, storm and immortals coming out for hasu

Kas taking out hasu's third


18:00

Huge supply lead for kas and +2 weapons finishing

Storm finished for hasu and blink starting
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
May 14 2011 20:23 GMT
#1355
On May 15 2011 05:20 quantum21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 05:16 Skyze wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:13 Darhole wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:11 kirbynator wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:10 Skyze wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:06 Pekkz wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:03 Skyze wrote:
rofl bad manner from a guy who makes pure marauder. wow.


Just a few hellions would destroy the zealots. He can blame himself for being so stubbern.


Exactly. Or tanks, Or thors (no, they arent useless now, just about as useless as HT's are because ghosts EMP is so cheap now)

Look at Thorzain play terran, even when he doesnt use thors, he plays very strong and smart. Kas is just getting pure marauder and hoping it will work because well, it works 99% of the time vs anyone on ladder whos not as good as HasuObs.

Any terran who is QQing in this thread, especially after how one-sided the first 2 games were (and Hasu made very little mistakes..) well.. just sad really.


lololol are you implying that tanks and thors are good vs leg zealots?

some people...


Skyze.. after reading through most of this thread.. you take the cake for the biggest idiot here so far. Here's your sign


Tanks are useful in TvP. Not saying that exact game, but they are useful if used correctly, and forcing the protoss to get other units. If Thorzain can use tanks in TvP and win vs MC, they clearly aren't useless.

But itsok, you can keep crying about HasuObs winning. Go terran QQ more.



Aren't you the same fucking retard who said roach/ling is OP in the GSL thread last night? Oh yeah, you are. Shut the fuck up if you have no idea what you are talking about moron. Thors are useless, and thorzain didn't use tanks AT ALL in those games (wtf???). Go protoss QQ more you fucking retard.


Manner kid. I never said roach/ling is OP at all, I simply said that zergs need to stop whining about MC beating July with 4gate as if it was overpowered, when Nestea did the same all-in and won 4-0 with it, and is labeled as a genius. Stop the bias, cant have it one way and not the other.

I have no problem beating grandmaster zergs who use that roach/ling all-in. My issue is with the zergs who STILL think zerg is weak, even after the percentages in korea AND INTERNATIONALLY lately clearly favoring zerg.

So keep being an ass, the point is I hate QQing fanboys, and I try to tell them to learn NOTHING is imbalanced in this game. Its all about the SKILL of the player, The better player will always win, end of discussion.
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
May 14 2011 20:23 GMT
#1356
Welp, Kas definitely took this series 3-2.
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
Chainfire99
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada474 Posts
May 14 2011 20:24 GMT
#1357
On May 15 2011 05:22 da_head wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 05:21 Chainfire99 wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:18 Lorizean wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:16 Chainfire99 wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:13 iNbluE wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:11 Chainfire99 wrote:
I am not whining about balance just foolish people who ignore vikings/medivacs/ and ghosts and label terran armies as just t1.


Vikings are tier zero when facing gateway units


You need a barrack, factory, then a starport therefore medivacs and vikings are t3 technically speaking.


I've personally never been to comfortable with the tiers in Starcraft. In WC3 it was pretty easy to classify builds by main building tiers, but in sc thats only possible with Zerg. I mean, yeah, technically medivacs are t3, but are they comparable (in tier) to ultras/broods? I think not...



True it could be argued that although technically vikings/medivacs are t3...they are weaker compared to other races' t3 units (outside of thors and bc's which are useless in certain match ups). I just wish thors didn't have soo much energy...so that HT feedback wouldn't outright rape them and that BC's were easier to transition into. But regardless PvT is pretty balanced...just requires Terran to do a lot of efficient drops.

ultras and broods are tier 3.5, not tier 3. (require hive and greater spire/ultra cavern)



And bc's are tier 4: barrack/factory/starport/fusion core
Vincere Vel Mori
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 14 2011 20:24 GMT
#1358
On May 15 2011 05:23 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 05:22 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:21 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:20 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:19 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:17 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:16 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:15 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:14 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:13 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

3:40

Kas getting a reaper


5:00

Stim starting for kas

reaper picks off Hasu's scouting probe




7:00

Hasu's Nexus finishes and now getting his obs out


9:00

Robo bay finishing for hasu


10:00

Kas getting his third

Hasu scouts it


12:30

+1 weapon on the way for hasu

+1 armour on the way for kas

more colossi on the way for hasu


14:30

Big engagement

all colossi and vikings are taken out at the end


16:00

+1 armour for hasu




17:00

Charge, storm and immortals coming out for hasu

Kas taking out hasu's third


18:00

Huge supply lead for kas and +2 weapons finishing

Storm finished for hasu and blink starting


19:00 huge drop in the main followed with an attack at the natural
Lorizean
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1330 Posts
May 14 2011 20:24 GMT
#1359
On May 15 2011 05:21 Chainfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 05:18 Lorizean wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:16 Chainfire99 wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:13 iNbluE wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:11 Chainfire99 wrote:
I am not whining about balance just foolish people who ignore vikings/medivacs/ and ghosts and label terran armies as just t1.


Vikings are tier zero when facing gateway units


You need a barrack, factory, then a starport therefore medivacs and vikings are t3 technically speaking.


I've personally never been to comfortable with the tiers in Starcraft. In WC3 it was pretty easy to classify builds by main building tiers, but in sc thats only possible with Zerg. I mean, yeah, technically medivacs are t3, but are they comparable (in tier) to ultras/broods? I think not...



True it could be argued that although technically vikings/medivacs are t3...they are weaker compared to other races' t3 units (outside of thors and bc's which are useless in certain match ups). I just wish thors didn't have soo much energy...so that HT feedback wouldn't outright rape them and that BC's were easier to transition into. But regardless PvT is pretty balanced...just requires Terran to do a lot of efficient drops.



Well, as a Zerg player I don't know how the Thor worked in PvT and whether or not the Energy-change was called for, but on SotG they seemed to agree that it was a good change.
And yeah, you don't see BCs all that often, same with carriers though. Thinking about it, Zerg high-tier units are probably the most common among races.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
May 14 2011 20:24 GMT
#1360
Hasu down to one nexus with one warping in at 20 minutes into the game, that's just hilarious.
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