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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 14 2011 20:20 GMT
#1321
On May 15 2011 05:19 Drazerk wrote:
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On May 15 2011 05:17 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:16 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:15 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:14 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:13 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:12 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:12 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:10 Drazerk wrote:
Firth map now starting on shakurus

Kas is in the bottom left

Hasu is in the top Right

series is tied 2-2


2:30

kas finishes his rax / gas



3:00

Hasu getting his cyber core out now

tech lab going down on the barracks for kas


3:40

Kas getting a reaper


5:00

Stim starting for kas

reaper picks off Hasu's scouting probe




7:00

Hasu's Nexus finishes and now getting his obs out


9:00

Robo bay finishing for hasu


10:00

Kas getting his third

Hasu scouts it


12:30

+1 weapon on the way for hasu

+1 armour on the way for kas

more colossi on the way for hasu


14:30

Big engagement

all colossi and vikings are taken out at the end
MLG_Wiggin
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States767 Posts
May 14 2011 20:20 GMT
#1322
On May 15 2011 05:19 Skyze wrote:
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On May 15 2011 05:17 Daimai wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:13 Darhole wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:11 kirbynator wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:10 Skyze wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:06 Pekkz wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:03 Skyze wrote:
rofl bad manner from a guy who makes pure marauder. wow.


Just a few hellions would destroy the zealots. He can blame himself for being so stubbern.


Exactly. Or tanks, Or thors (no, they arent useless now, just about as useless as HT's are because ghosts EMP is so cheap now)

Look at Thorzain play terran, even when he doesnt use thors, he plays very strong and smart. Kas is just getting pure marauder and hoping it will work because well, it works 99% of the time vs anyone on ladder whos not as good as HasuObs.

Any terran who is QQing in this thread, especially after how one-sided the first 2 games were (and Hasu made very little mistakes..) well.. just sad really.


lololol are you implying that tanks and thors are good vs leg zealots?

some people...


Skyze.. after reading through most of this thread.. you take the cake for the biggest idiot here so far. Here's your sign


Actually thors and tanks are pretty good against only leg zealots.


THey are. Tanks are so strong, just never used in TvP for some reason. Thank god.

Im not talking TvZ style marine/tank which would obviously get run over easily. Im talking sprinkling afew tanks in at key strategic locations, such as behind planetary's. But you know how terrans QQers are.

Sure is double standards here.

On May 15 2011 05:18 Azarkon wrote:
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On May 15 2011 05:17 w_Ender_w wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:16 Niick wrote:
These games are so boring.. sit back.. sim city.. then shit happens.

so prefer the korean play style

3 gate VR or 4 gate?


Obviously he meant DT cheese into no cannon expand

Well played.
@DBWiggin, SC2 ref
MinoMino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1103 Posts
May 14 2011 20:20 GMT
#1323
All colossuses down. Big win for Kas.
Blah.
Ojahh
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Ireland728 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-14 20:22:24
May 14 2011 20:20 GMT
#1324
OMG so many roasted marauder..

and 30k viewers BOOM

edit> and then the collosi die
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Chainfire99
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada474 Posts
May 14 2011 20:21 GMT
#1325
On May 15 2011 05:18 Lorizean wrote:
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On May 15 2011 05:16 Chainfire99 wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:13 iNbluE wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:11 Chainfire99 wrote:
I am not whining about balance just foolish people who ignore vikings/medivacs/ and ghosts and label terran armies as just t1.


Vikings are tier zero when facing gateway units


You need a barrack, factory, then a starport therefore medivacs and vikings are t3 technically speaking.


I've personally never been to comfortable with the tiers in Starcraft. In WC3 it was pretty easy to classify builds by main building tiers, but in sc thats only possible with Zerg. I mean, yeah, technically medivacs are t3, but are they comparable (in tier) to ultras/broods? I think not...



True it could be argued that although technically vikings/medivacs are t3...they are weaker compared to other races' t3 units (outside of thors and bc's which are useless in certain match ups). I just wish thors didn't have soo much energy...so that HT feedback wouldn't outright rape them and that BC's were easier to transition into. But regardless PvT is pretty balanced...just requires Terran to do a lot of efficient drops.
Vincere Vel Mori
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 14 2011 20:21 GMT
#1326
30k viewers now ^^
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
May 14 2011 20:21 GMT
#1327
whoops forgot to add in game 3 and 4 results its there now!!
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
May 14 2011 20:21 GMT
#1328
Hasu should do a tech swap right now to immo / archon / templar anything but colo. Kas has to remake his viking numbers.
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
iconoclast
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden16 Posts
May 14 2011 20:21 GMT
#1329
Really bad micro by kas. :/
ava34
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom153 Posts
May 14 2011 20:21 GMT
#1330
Great viking snipes... keep that critical mass down
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
May 14 2011 20:21 GMT
#1331
On May 15 2011 05:20 Fyzar wrote:
Raped that army there, good play from Hasu!
e; I started typing before the engagement was over, ignore this retarded (hindsight) comment .


Just change it to "raped those vikings there, good play from Hasu!"
Vandal_heart
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom88 Posts
May 14 2011 20:21 GMT
#1332
Whats with the supply difference? Did I miss something, or was the CC just way earlier than I thought?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 14 2011 20:21 GMT
#1333
On May 15 2011 05:20 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 05:19 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:17 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:16 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:15 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:14 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:13 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:12 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:12 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:10 Drazerk wrote:
Firth map now starting on shakurus

Kas is in the bottom left

Hasu is in the top Right

series is tied 2-2


2:30

kas finishes his rax / gas



3:00

Hasu getting his cyber core out now

tech lab going down on the barracks for kas


3:40

Kas getting a reaper


5:00

Stim starting for kas

reaper picks off Hasu's scouting probe




7:00

Hasu's Nexus finishes and now getting his obs out


9:00

Robo bay finishing for hasu


10:00

Kas getting his third

Hasu scouts it


12:30

+1 weapon on the way for hasu

+1 armour on the way for kas

more colossi on the way for hasu


14:30

Big engagement

all colossi and vikings are taken out at the end


16:00

+1 armour for hasu


Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
May 14 2011 20:22 GMT
#1334
hasus micro is so fucking good
he outmicros kas in every engagement
really nice to look at :O
wat
Mercadia
Profile Joined December 2010
United States257 Posts
May 14 2011 20:22 GMT
#1335
Awesome engagement for Kas. 30 food lead now, faster third, cut the colo count down.
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
May 14 2011 20:22 GMT
#1336
Kas snipes the 3rd nexus
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
May 14 2011 20:22 GMT
#1337
On May 15 2011 05:20 hifriend wrote:
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On May 15 2011 05:17 ComTrav wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:15 sc14s wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:13 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:10 DiaBoLuS wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:08 Funkatron wrote:
pretty bad play by both IMO.
1 control group by hasu, hesitant decision making.
Kas going blind viking. refusing to switch tech to deal with gateway... :|

turned into close games though. pretty fun to watch.


i lold.

no offense, but i cant find 2 american T/P players even playing on that level.


DiaBoLuS taking a mindless shot at the NA scene for no reason? There's a surprise. Take that garb elsewhere.

He just sounds like a fanboy

Also select is pretty good, or howabout huk? hes canadian ~_~


Huk was the first name to come to mind, just because


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He beat freaking MMA to stay in Code S. Yeah, MMA played kinda poorly, but still...MMA!

Not that I agree with diabolus or ever would, but it's kind of funny you respond by naming a korean and a canadian. :D

well huk is NA essentially, or if you disagree with that since huk is living in korea then select would therefore be NA because of where he lives, It defends on both sides no? i could have made that more clear i suppose lol.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-14 20:23:48
May 14 2011 20:22 GMT
#1338
On May 15 2011 05:18 Mercadia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 05:16 Niick wrote:
These games are so boring.. sit back.. sim city.. then shit happens.

so prefer the korean play style


Macro games being complained about. Lol. Always someone mad.


These are not a good example of great macro games. I think a better example is MC vs Thorzain game 4. That was a great TvP, with action in the early game, mid-game all the way to the lategame, in such a fashion that it was really hard to tell who was winning all the way into the lategame. In comparison, these games:

-Have 0 early game action/aggression
-Are defined on a solid mid-game action
-Are dragged out far too long (particularly by hasu)
-Have plenty of mistakes in every stage of the game
-Are near exact mirrors of each other (Except probably game 4)

Not like I could do any better, or play nearly on that level lol, but if you want to make an argument about macro games being the best, you have to look elsewhere, not these series.
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
May 14 2011 20:22 GMT
#1339
props for dj wheat for trying to make it sound like FF is balanced

User was warned for this post
Try another route paperboy.
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2904 Posts
May 14 2011 20:22 GMT
#1340
On May 15 2011 05:20 quantum21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 05:16 Skyze wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:13 Darhole wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:11 kirbynator wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:10 Skyze wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:06 Pekkz wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:03 Skyze wrote:
rofl bad manner from a guy who makes pure marauder. wow.


Just a few hellions would destroy the zealots. He can blame himself for being so stubbern.


Exactly. Or tanks, Or thors (no, they arent useless now, just about as useless as HT's are because ghosts EMP is so cheap now)

Look at Thorzain play terran, even when he doesnt use thors, he plays very strong and smart. Kas is just getting pure marauder and hoping it will work because well, it works 99% of the time vs anyone on ladder whos not as good as HasuObs.

Any terran who is QQing in this thread, especially after how one-sided the first 2 games were (and Hasu made very little mistakes..) well.. just sad really.


lololol are you implying that tanks and thors are good vs leg zealots?

some people...


Skyze.. after reading through most of this thread.. you take the cake for the biggest idiot here so far. Here's your sign


Tanks are useful in TvP. Not saying that exact game, but they are useful if used correctly, and forcing the protoss to get other units. If Thorzain can use tanks in TvP and win vs MC, they clearly aren't useless.

But itsok, you can keep crying about HasuObs winning. Go terran QQ more.



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Aren't you the same fucking retard who said roach/ling is OP in the GSL thread last night? Oh yeah, you are. Shut the fuck up if you have no idea what you are talking about moron. Thors are useless, and thorzain didn't use tanks AT ALL in those games (wtf???). Go protoss QQ more you fucking retard.


That's not a very nice 1st post, sir. ~~
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