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Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
May 05 2011 10:50 GMT
#1221
On May 05 2011 19:49 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
finally anypro showing why he is where he is.


Showing why NesTeas strategy isn't the holy grail that zergs have not discovered yet according to this thread*
Are you hurting ESPORTS? Find out today - http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=232866
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
May 05 2011 10:50 GMT
#1222
On May 05 2011 19:47 najreteip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 19:46 diLLa wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:45 Nolot wrote:
Pretty pathetic how 2 zerg allins is suddenly 'best play in the world' and when the protoss goes allin its a random noob. Seems like another allin in game3 upcoming


MC plays like that too and is widly considered best protoss.

And it wasn't all-in, it's called strategic play and exploiting the enemies weakness. Do garanteed damage and it's not all-in.

I agree, no way that was all-in, just a perfect timing push


An all-in that's going to work is still an all-in -_-
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
May 05 2011 10:50 GMT
#1223
I've always thought phoenixes were quite robust.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
May 05 2011 10:50 GMT
#1224
1K minerals. Anypro must be under crazy pressure
branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
May 05 2011 10:50 GMT
#1225
Phoenix bonus damage v Hydralisks is seriously noticeable here.
Sajiki
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany522 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 10:51:36
May 05 2011 10:50 GMT
#1226
as i cant watch the gomtv stream and would like to know something about the games, i looked into this thread. my mistake.

you guys are not better than any dumb thread in the battle.net forums. seriously.
건설로봇 준비완료
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
May 05 2011 10:50 GMT
#1227
Anypro's phoenixes are doing severe damage
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
May 05 2011 10:50 GMT
#1228
Nony pro prime!
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
May 05 2011 10:50 GMT
#1229
Now this is very, very impressive play from anypro.
He sees hydras but continues with his double stargate play and makes so many phoenixes that he can lift everything!
It appears I have been chosen.
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
May 05 2011 10:50 GMT
#1230
Phoenixes doing massive damage
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
CodeskyE
Profile Joined January 2011
United States777 Posts
May 05 2011 10:50 GMT
#1231
Thank you AnyPro for quieting down Artosis' crazy nuthugging for a bit.
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
May 05 2011 10:50 GMT
#1232
On May 05 2011 19:43 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 19:42 SundeR. wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:41 Jehct wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:39 SundeR. wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:39 Moonwrath wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:38 Nolot wrote:
Nestea not confident in his macro it seems, going for 2 allin builds in a row

Jesus Christ are people really this dense or am I being trolled?


You're being trolled, for sure.

How is ling/hydra an all in when he still had money to expand, as well as he saw there was no colossus?

Attacking at any time without 4 bases is now an all-in, apparently.


If that push doesn't kill the opponent you're on 2 base with pure hydraling against colossus tech. That's a total all-in, that's like saying 2 base colossus timings aren't allin because you can skip a warp-in and grab a third - sure, but you're super behind for no benefit.


He could easily have retreated from a Colossus, and taken a third, and chilled.

Hell, if he had a faster colossus he could have even taken that out.


You have absolutely no way to hold the 2-3 colossus push that should be impending on your third from that position in the game. If that build doesn't do serious damage you're behind - the definition of an all-in.

No, that's the definition of a failed attack. Any attack that fails will leave you behind, duh! An allin is where you have no reasonable prospect of winning the game if it fails to deal heavy damage. Not just being behind.
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
May 05 2011 10:50 GMT
#1233
On May 05 2011 19:46 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 19:40 coolUndSo wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:36 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:34 Executor1 wrote:
More like 6 angry zerg players. "No, how dare a Zerg win! Now people won't believe us when we complain!"


LOL so true, look at all the zergs trying to defend how much their race sucks after that game.

Its rather pathetic.


It was a fucking cheese, dude. Relax. If anything, it's indicative of Nestea not wanting to play a longer game.


no,
just NO

there was no cheese by nestea
he expanded while moving out
and did it another time when it was save

how is that a cheese?

Yeah, ofc it wasn't cheese
So many people here don't have any idea what they're talking about, but it's definitely a push that's meant to end the game. The expansion is a backup plan, but he still needs to do a lot of damage because you cut a lot of econ to make that many Hydras on 2-base.

I dont understand how all all in have become this term to describe any kind of creative early play or play with any risks involved. Protoss and terrans do it all the time its about time zergs started doing it.

This balance talk between zergs and the rest of the sc2 community has really started to get out of hand though, it distracts me fromm the games, i need to close teamliquid so i can enjoy these quality games.

looks like this game is in it for the long term, sick pheonix play by anypro, pheonix are awesome if you can pick up enough hydras.
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 10:51:29
May 05 2011 10:50 GMT
#1234
woot, phoenixes are pretty good it seems, delicious hold by anypro :-))
'Tis with our Judgements as our Watches, none / Go just alike, yet each believes his own.
SundeR.
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia112 Posts
May 05 2011 10:50 GMT
#1235
On May 05 2011 19:49 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 19:46 SundeR. wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:45 Jehct wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:44 Dommk wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:41 Jehct wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:39 SundeR. wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:39 Moonwrath wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:38 Nolot wrote:
Nestea not confident in his macro it seems, going for 2 allin builds in a row

Jesus Christ are people really this dense or am I being trolled?


You're being trolled, for sure.

How is ling/hydra an all in when he still had money to expand, as well as he saw there was no colossus?

Attacking at any time without 4 bases is now an all-in, apparently.


If that push doesn't kill the opponent you're on 2 base with pure hydraling against colossus tech. That's a total all-in, that's like saying 2 base colossus timings aren't allin because you can skip a warp-in and grab a third - sure, but you're super behind for no benefit.

You are on 2 base Hydra-Ling against a Protoss who has only enough income to make nothing but Zealots and Colossus.

"2 Base Colossus all-ins" with only 1 base with of income to reinforce doesn't work


I'm confused, I would include "killing the natural" in terms of "killing the opponent". If that build doesn't do serious damage you're a long way behind ie. it's an allin.


You don't know what you are talking about. At all.


You have to explain statements like that to avoid looking foolish.


It's a timing attack. The Protoss could not chase him. At any point Nestea can cut drones, expand, make a round of drones and put up a spire. Realising that your opponent is being super-greedy and choosing to do a timing attack does not make it an all-in.

What if protoss did a two base 3-gate aggression and Nestea took an early third? What if Protoss lost that army? Is that an all-in?
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
May 05 2011 10:51 GMT
#1236
On May 05 2011 19:50 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 19:47 najreteip wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:46 diLLa wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:45 Nolot wrote:
Pretty pathetic how 2 zerg allins is suddenly 'best play in the world' and when the protoss goes allin its a random noob. Seems like another allin in game3 upcoming


MC plays like that too and is widly considered best protoss.

And it wasn't all-in, it's called strategic play and exploiting the enemies weakness. Do garanteed damage and it's not all-in.

I agree, no way that was all-in, just a perfect timing push


An all-in that's going to work is still an all-in -_-

Not when you expand while doing it
I have no quote!
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
May 05 2011 10:51 GMT
#1237
fucking clutch pheonix hold.
s3x2-2 xiao3x2+2 bone3+2+2
BuzZoo
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1468 Posts
May 05 2011 10:51 GMT
#1238
Nestea needs to take a third. He's not THAT far behind.
diLLa
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands247 Posts
May 05 2011 10:51 GMT
#1239
On May 05 2011 19:50 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 19:47 najreteip wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:46 diLLa wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:45 Nolot wrote:
Pretty pathetic how 2 zerg allins is suddenly 'best play in the world' and when the protoss goes allin its a random noob. Seems like another allin in game3 upcoming


MC plays like that too and is widly considered best protoss.

And it wasn't all-in, it's called strategic play and exploiting the enemies weakness. Do garanteed damage and it's not all-in.

I agree, no way that was all-in, just a perfect timing push


An all-in that's going to work is still an all-in -_-


Not if you have the information you need that can do GARANTEED damage. even if you lose your army, you done the damage needed to balance off your own loss. Stop being ignorant man
eluv
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
May 05 2011 10:51 GMT
#1240
Kind of cool that the counter to Hydras is to make MORE of the units hydras counter. Anypro is teaching us all.
"Yes I fucked my way to the GSL partnership" - Sundance
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