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TUski
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1258 Posts
May 05 2011 10:48 GMT
#1201
To clarify my previous statement:

The first set was a great play, and Nestea should be commended for his ingenuity.

The second set was, by definition, an all-in. A very well timed, well calculated all-in, but NOT a cheese.

If you think that was a cheese, then stop listening to HD who often gets the two terms mixed up.
"There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love." - Day[9]
NPF
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1635 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 10:51:51
May 05 2011 10:48 GMT
#1202
On May 05 2011 19:37 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 19:36 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:34 Executor1 wrote:
More like 6 angry zerg players. "No, how dare a Zerg win! Now people won't believe us when we complain!"


LOL so true, look at all the zergs trying to defend how much their race sucks after that game.

Its rather pathetic.


It was a fucking cheese, dude. Relax. If anything, it's indicative of Nestea not wanting to play a longer game.


It wasn't cheese. Anypro didn't do a safe build (0 cannons) and Nestea punished him for it.


Heck even Artosis didn't call it cheese. It's not cheese to attack your ennemy if he decides to leave you a opening for 2-3 minutes before he becomes unkillable
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
May 05 2011 10:48 GMT
#1203
Nestea moves out with hydra ling, sitting outside anypro's natural, baiting a few forcefields.
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 10:49:35
May 05 2011 10:48 GMT
#1204
As Tyler (and me, but well, I'm not as credible or influent) are saying since a long time (me longer than Tyler, I'm such a boss), protosses builds stayed so unpunished for so long that they shifted to greedier and greedier over time.
I mean, the build anypro made was teching to stargate, then to robo, then robo bay, without canon. This is standard ! But this shouldn't, because no way such fast tech should go unpunished. But it went unpunished for months. Now the zergs know how to punish it, but they downplay it because they have to "cheese and allin". But as long as you won't punish those builds 100% of the times, protosses build will not evolve and we'll stay in a bad statut-quo.

And Nestea hydraling bust again ! And anypro finds a way to counter it, wow.
Synk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States297 Posts
May 05 2011 10:48 GMT
#1205
This games over, hydras V anything toss has but collosi and HT is gg .. dunno why anypro seems to forgot how to make the autowin unit.
Don't argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 05 2011 10:49 GMT
#1206
Nestea loses this game his attack didn't do enough damage :/.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
May 05 2011 10:49 GMT
#1207
On May 05 2011 19:46 SundeR. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 19:45 Jehct wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:44 Dommk wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:41 Jehct wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:39 SundeR. wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:39 Moonwrath wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:38 Nolot wrote:
Nestea not confident in his macro it seems, going for 2 allin builds in a row

Jesus Christ are people really this dense or am I being trolled?


You're being trolled, for sure.

How is ling/hydra an all in when he still had money to expand, as well as he saw there was no colossus?

Attacking at any time without 4 bases is now an all-in, apparently.


If that push doesn't kill the opponent you're on 2 base with pure hydraling against colossus tech. That's a total all-in, that's like saying 2 base colossus timings aren't allin because you can skip a warp-in and grab a third - sure, but you're super behind for no benefit.

You are on 2 base Hydra-Ling against a Protoss who has only enough income to make nothing but Zealots and Colossus.

"2 Base Colossus all-ins" with only 1 base with of income to reinforce doesn't work


I'm confused, I would include "killing the natural" in terms of "killing the opponent". If that build doesn't do serious damage you're a long way behind ie. it's an allin.


You don't know what you are talking about. At all.


You have to explain statements like that to avoid looking foolish.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
May 05 2011 10:49 GMT
#1208
anypro with a hero hold!
It appears I have been chosen.
anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
May 05 2011 10:49 GMT
#1209
All this "IF" he held that. There was absolutely no way he could've held his nexus with what he had at the point Nestea decided to go for the push, even if survived the attack.

With the nexus down, worst possible scenario they would have been even with possibly a minimal eco advantage for Nestea.

This translates to -reactive- timing push, it was not an allin, kk.
'Tis with our Judgements as our Watches, none / Go just alike, yet each believes his own.
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
May 05 2011 10:49 GMT
#1210
NICE!
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
May 05 2011 10:49 GMT
#1211
God damnit now hydrabusts are popular in sc2 as well, cant believe it.
wat
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
May 05 2011 10:49 GMT
#1212
This is so sick !~ anypro , win a game here
artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
May 05 2011 10:49 GMT
#1213
I guess was a mistake to attack forge instead of pheonixes
Nolot
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom271 Posts
May 05 2011 10:49 GMT
#1214
Another 2base timing attack, really Nestea fears anypro's macro it seems.
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
May 05 2011 10:49 GMT
#1215
finally anypro showing why he is where he is.
Do you really want chat rooms?
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
May 05 2011 10:49 GMT
#1216
On May 05 2011 19:45 Rayansaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 19:41 isM wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:40 blade55555 wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:39 isM wrote:
On May 05 2011 19:38 Nolot wrote:
Nestea not confident in his macro it seems, going for 2 allin builds in a row



do you read the shit you type? how was that build all in? I would love to hear you explain it to me.


set 2 was all in. He would have been behind economically if toss had held that without losing his nexus... If anypro had gotten a fast colossi for example, that build would have gotten smashed and anypro would have won.


The thing is he cannot hold it off without losing his nexus, he had zero cannons and a really low gateway unit count nestea was poking constantly and it was not all in, it was well calculated and had nearly zero* chance of failing.

edit: *


Exactly. It wasn't all-in, it was just the day9 build: Just go freakin kill him. There was basically no risk envolved in this situation unless nestea was bronze and did something really stupid.


I've been trying to argue this forever with people but apparently (according to them) it seems like risk have nothing to do with an all-in. They keep repeating the mantra "unless he does damage he loses" when it makes no sense to call something an all-in without taking the chance of it working into consideration. It's just a difference in viewpoint I guess.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
May 05 2011 10:49 GMT
#1217
Nestea just containing anypro with huge pressure. Making him waste forcefields.

He's in the zone tonight.

Phoenixes pick off Hydras and he holds it pretty easily but lost some stuff.

Nestea reinforcing with some more Hydras but i don't think he has enough.
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Bastilol
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany129 Posts
May 05 2011 10:49 GMT
#1218
my Gom player broke =/ does anyone else have the problem that when clicking on the HQ stream button the player opens but there isnt any Tastosis only the normal GOM background?
Artosis - "Dr. House is Idra in doctor form"
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
May 05 2011 10:49 GMT
#1219
wow anypro is somehow holding ;o
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
May 05 2011 10:49 GMT
#1220
Just so people know, Phoenix are OP. Oh, they are bad because hydras counter them? Nope, doesn't look like it!

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