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On May 05 2011 19:39 Jehct wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 19:36 W2 wrote:On May 05 2011 19:26 ELA wrote:
idra's statement about zerg vs. protoss forge FE on this weeks state of the game, is now completely nullified :D
No offensive options for zerg? Well, next time, just ask Nestea i want idra's comment on this.. LOL Idra states time and time again that zerg has no offensive options without going all-in, what exactly do you think that push was? It was a 2 base hydraling all-in. Everyone needs to stop bringing up balance and SOTG and enjoy these games for what they are: excellent reads and decision making by a great zerg who seems to totally outclass his opponent.
You're thinking about the wrong game, check above quotes to see which game we were talking about. 3 spines = all in? 
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Zerg punishes greedy builds - 20 pages of praising player.
X race punishes Zerg's greedy builds - 50 pages of QQ how game is imbalanced.
You can't explain that.
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This is just like the JulyZerg vs. anypro series last code S season. Anypro keeps falling more and more apart after each loss.
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Pretty pathetic how 2 zerg allins is suddenly 'best play in the world' and when the protoss goes allin its a random noob. Seems like another allin in game3 upcoming
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We have to stop bashing the zerg whiners... zerg is an awful race. end of the discussion.
User was temp banned for this post.
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Spore was a good decision. Basically stops any high tech builds which is what anypro is limited too. Not necessarily for air, I think it was to stop DT
Edit: re thought that, that actually had to be for air, DTs would have taken way too fuckin long lol
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I think anypro should just go for a rush like 4 gates with sentries to win
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On May 05 2011 19:41 isM wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 19:40 blade55555 wrote:On May 05 2011 19:39 isM wrote:On May 05 2011 19:38 Nolot wrote:
Nestea not confident in his macro it seems, going for 2 allin builds in a row do you read the shit you type? how was that build all in? I would love to hear you explain it to me. set 2 was all in. He would have been behind economically if toss had held that without losing his nexus... If anypro had gotten a fast colossi for example, that build would have gotten smashed and anypro would have won. The thing is he cannot hold it off without losing his nexus, he had zero cannons and a really low gateway unit count nestea was poking constantly and it was not all in, it was well calculated and had nearly zero* chance of failing. edit: *
Exactly. It wasn't all-in, it was just the day9 build: Just go freakin kill him. There was basically no risk envolved in this situation unless nestea was bronze and did something really stupid.
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On May 05 2011 19:43 laegoose wrote:
Jesus i'm so tired of this 'LoloLOL>olOL it was all-in he could lose if Anypro defended' and 'hahaha cheese can't macro lololol zerg' stuff
Didn't you know? All tournaments are supposed to be played with NR 20 min rules. Anyone that doesn't just sit back and macro for 20 minutes is cheating.
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On May 05 2011 19:44 Zythian wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 19:42 zaii wrote:On May 05 2011 19:41 Ezze wrote:
Nestea, stop showing all the damn zergs how to play their overpowered race... how am I supposed to ladder now with this shit becoming public knowledge. insert /sarcasm here Zerg will never, ever, be seen as overpowered by the public as long as Idra is on SOTG and his little zerg followers get to see his nonsensical complaints
Except they're so exaggerated and foolish that only fools can take them seriously. (or zerg players/idra fans)
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On May 05 2011 19:44 Dommk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 19:41 Jehct wrote:On May 05 2011 19:39 SundeR. wrote:On May 05 2011 19:39 Moonwrath wrote:On May 05 2011 19:38 Nolot wrote:
Nestea not confident in his macro it seems, going for 2 allin builds in a row Jesus Christ are people really this dense or am I being trolled? You're being trolled, for sure. How is ling/hydra an all in when he still had money to expand, as well as he saw there was no colossus? Attacking at any time without 4 bases is now an all-in, apparently. If that push doesn't kill the opponent you're on 2 base with pure hydraling against colossus tech. That's a total all-in, that's like saying 2 base colossus timings aren't allin because you can skip a warp-in and grab a third - sure, but you're super behind for no benefit. You are on 2 base Hydra-Ling against a Protoss who has only enough income to make nothing but Zealots and Colossus. "2 Base Colossus all-ins" with only 1 base with of income to reinforce doesn't work
I'm confused, I would include "killing the natural" in terms of "killing the opponent". If that build doesn't do serious damage you're a long way behind ie. it's an allin.
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not related to the games but anyone have a link to that page that says what guys which t-ara girls are rooting/rooted for?
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On May 05 2011 19:43 Mycl wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 19:42 SundeR. wrote:On May 05 2011 19:41 Jehct wrote:On May 05 2011 19:39 SundeR. wrote:On May 05 2011 19:39 Moonwrath wrote:On May 05 2011 19:38 Nolot wrote:
Nestea not confident in his macro it seems, going for 2 allin builds in a row Jesus Christ are people really this dense or am I being trolled? You're being trolled, for sure. How is ling/hydra an all in when he still had money to expand, as well as he saw there was no colossus? Attacking at any time without 4 bases is now an all-in, apparently. If that push doesn't kill the opponent you're on 2 base with pure hydraling against colossus tech. That's a total all-in, that's like saying 2 base colossus timings aren't allin because you can skip a warp-in and grab a third - sure, but you're super behind for no benefit. He could easily have retreated from a Colossus, and taken a third, and chilled. Hell, if he had a faster colossus he could have even taken that out. How the heck do Hydra's retreat from anything off creep?
What, he's going to chase him down with three sentries and a stalker? If he comes out of his base, he kills him with speedlings and hydras. Protoss cannot chase Zerg in that situation.
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On May 05 2011 19:45 Nolot wrote:
Pretty pathetic how 2 zerg allins is suddenly 'best play in the world' and when the protoss goes allin its a random noob. Seems like another allin in game3 upcoming
Nestea didn't all-in. Don't shit up the thread.
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On May 05 2011 19:43 Moochlol wrote:
Pro tip, it was all in. Not cheese. Just a great play.
Its like tastosis said, it was reactive play.
doing something that has a 90 to 100% chance to win doesnt make it an all-in anymore
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On May 05 2011 19:44 whiterabbit wrote:
Zerg punishes greedy builds - 20 pages of praising player.
X race punishes Zerg's greedy builds - 50 pages of QQ how game is imbalanced.
You can't explain that.
lol and then selective banning from admins when everyone is doing it  guess they cant ban everyone though
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Nestea is doing a whole lot of really quick +1 ranged attack, which is good. You don't see a lot of quick upgrade builds from Zergs lately. But, yeah, Anypro is on his back foot.
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On May 05 2011 19:45 Nolot wrote:
Pretty pathetic how 2 zerg allins is suddenly 'best play in the world' and when the protoss goes allin its a random noob. Seems like another allin in game3 upcoming
MC plays like that too and is widly considered best protoss.
And it wasn't all-in, it's called strategic play and exploiting the enemies weakness. Do garanteed damage and it's not all-in.
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