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nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
May 03 2011 13:44 GMT
#1721
Nada is still my pick to win this season. He's just looking very solid.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
May 03 2011 14:07 GMT
#1722
If you watched those games and didn't know Losira was playing, there is no way you would have thought one of the top 3 zergs in the world was playing. Objectively speaking, he made major mistakes that cost him games while Sc did not.

Game 1, Losira could have ended the game very early but his lings were out of position, and engaged with half his army. Then he loses his infestors every single encounter. Game 2 was just atrocious; terrible decision making and micro. Game 3 both players made a lot of mistakes, but Losira simply made the bigger mistakes.

But I have to bring this up again, why do world class progamers use 1 control group? So many top-tier players make mistakes like Losira's a-move infestors that just come down to, well, being lazy.
tmzu
Profile Joined August 2010
58 Posts
May 03 2011 14:11 GMT
#1723
its all up to nestea gogogo
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
May 03 2011 14:12 GMT
#1724
Ahhhhh Zerg tears, least they get somewhat drowned out by people standing up to them these days. sC is a top Terran, deal with it. I knew it from his series vs sanzenith last season, ro8 and ro4 this season, 2nd in fxo open, constantly near the top of the KR ladder, he's just constantly performing, get over it!
He will not be a pushover at all against nada, I still slightly favor nada but it will be a good series for sure.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 14:15:34
May 03 2011 14:15 GMT
#1725
On May 03 2011 23:07 Sandster wrote:


But I have to bring this up again, why do world class progamers use 1 control group? So many top-tier players make mistakes like Losira's a-move infestors that just come down to, well, being lazy.

Losira said in an interview with artosis that he picked Zerg because it takes very little micro and you can just a-move everything. Looks like that's what he did
Agnosthar
Profile Joined August 2010
631 Posts
May 03 2011 14:22 GMT
#1726
So happy NaDa made it, he's looking pretty good recently.
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
May 03 2011 14:23 GMT
#1727
I loved game 1. It was insane.

There was so much whine about short engagements in the "What is SC2 lacking?" thread, and then we get an insane 15 minute long fight with no stopping, and people complain that he didn't tech enough?

You can show plenty of skill with marines/lings/banes.

Game 1 was one of the best SC2 games I've ever seen. The other 2 were pretty bad, but hey that's ZvT.
Thug[ro]
Profile Joined October 2005
Romania340 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 14:37:11
May 03 2011 14:36 GMT
#1728
where can i watch the games? GomTV site is not an option cuz i don't have a ticket....
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
May 03 2011 14:40 GMT
#1729
Nada will win this GSL now that July has been eliminated .
Schmelix
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany2 Posts
May 03 2011 14:41 GMT
#1730
On May 03 2011 23:36 ThugTerran wrote:
where can i watch the games? GomTV site is not an option cuz i don't have a ticket....


Then get one....
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
May 03 2011 14:42 GMT
#1731
I'm calling Inca to win the whole thing. It's written in the stars after that ludicrous game against Rain.

On the topic of the day: Zerg players have by far the worst unit control on the pro circuit (on average, obviously there are exceptions).
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
May 03 2011 14:43 GMT
#1732
On May 03 2011 23:42 Yaotzin wrote:
I'm calling Inca to win the whole thing. It's written in the stars after that ludicrous game against Rain.

On the topic of the day: Zerg players have by far the worst unit control on the pro circuit (on average, obviously there are exceptions).


Agree but pretty much every protoss clumps their units such that their zealots are always stuck behind stalkers. That's kind of a big deal...
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
May 03 2011 14:47 GMT
#1733
Yes certainly true. I'd have it as Terran > Protoss > Zerg. I think the level of unit control in general is pretty appalling though. Stuck zealots, templar/infestors walking into deathballs. Even Terran players, despite having it easy with all ranged units, don't impress me at all with attempted viking/collo snipes and such.

Big area of improvement for pros to make IMO.
101998
Profile Joined December 2010
United States318 Posts
May 03 2011 14:58 GMT
#1734
SC vs Losira game 1 was damn good. Freaking 10 minutes of solid aggression, so crazy.
Beef Noodles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States937 Posts
May 03 2011 15:00 GMT
#1735
On May 03 2011 21:04 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 21:01 T.Probe wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:52 FataLe wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:50 T.Probe wrote:
On May 03 2011 20:37 HyunA1 wrote:
Why is it that I sense 99% of QQ'ers in this thread play zerg?

If it's not cheese that you're crying about, it's something about your race. When a zerg wins, it's "perfect play" that outplays his opponent.


Its funny how people imply that the majority of people who play zerg are qq'ers by nature. The reason why so many zerg's qq must be because there must be an issue in balance with the race.

Or because they have a role model who shares his opinions freely.

Not that, that discredits what he's saying. But most of these Zergs are just sheep. Whether the game has become balanced or not. They'll blame a Zerg's loss on imbalance 'till their idol says it isn't so.

Sorry If I'm coming across strong :\


lol, your also implying that only certain types of people play zerg based on their personality which is obviously a wrong assumption.

Read my other post, it clears up what you're getting at.
Apologies :X

But even so. Personality could be a major factor in why someone plays/doesn't play a certain race. Just for arguments sake.

There was a Brood War psychological study that seemed to conclude that your personality type DID affect which race you chose. If I recall (and these are gross over simplifications), protoss roughly = outgoing, zerg roughly = eccentric, terran roughly = pessimistic/self-critical (or something like that). Anyway, interesting study
Creem
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden254 Posts
May 03 2011 15:01 GMT
#1736
I dont care about the possible unbalance (and yes I play zerg), game 1 between losira and sc was the most action-packed and intense game I've seen in a looooong time!
Angry.Zerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico305 Posts
May 03 2011 15:06 GMT
#1737
So sad about Losira (and July). All my hopes (again) on NesTea... it seems he's our Zerg's Neo.
You play to win
KillAudio
Profile Joined October 2010
1364 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 15:08:24
May 03 2011 15:07 GMT
#1738
Aghh, I voted for Losira and TOP.

July vs Nada finals!
From a scale of sheth to idra, how mad are you?
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
May 03 2011 15:09 GMT
#1739
On May 03 2011 23:42 Yaotzin wrote:
I'm calling Inca to win the whole thing. It's written in the stars after that ludicrous game against Rain.

On the topic of the day: Zerg players have by far the worst unit control on the pro circuit (on average, obviously there are exceptions).



that post is just crap... Just because most of the zerg units dont have funky blink,FF,stim and whatever micro abilities that doesn't mean zergs have bad unit control.
baneling splits take more micro than marine splits
burrow micro is at least as hard as blink micro, but way less effective (not a QQ, just a fact why we don't see a lot of fancy roach burrow micro...)
muta harass takes a lot of micro
unit spreading takes a lot of micro
injecting during a battle takes some micro (and a lot of focus)

imo opinion some of the zerg players have the best micro of all (and must have, because clumping ur mutas or banelings, getting your army split by FFs and stuff like that lets you lose the game instantly)
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 15:33:57
May 03 2011 15:31 GMT
#1740
On May 04 2011 00:09 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 23:42 Yaotzin wrote:
I'm calling Inca to win the whole thing. It's written in the stars after that ludicrous game against Rain.

On the topic of the day: Zerg players have by far the worst unit control on the pro circuit (on average, obviously there are exceptions).

baneling splits take more micro than marine splits

You are kidding, right? :D. His post is certainly wrong but this is just... lol.
I hope a NaDa vs NesTea final but I don't see NaDa beat him if he can't beat July :s.
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