On April 30 2011 17:46 Jacuzzi wrote:
LOL no protoss in top 8 of Code A. Where's your balance whining now?
LOL no protoss in top 8 of Code A. Where's your balance whining now?
All Protoss are in Code S :D
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Lori.
Germany97 Posts
April 30 2011 08:53 GMT
#2541
On April 30 2011 17:46 Jacuzzi wrote: LOL no protoss in top 8 of Code A. Where's your balance whining now? All Protoss are in Code S :D | ||
Serpico
4285 Posts
April 30 2011 08:53 GMT
#2542
On April 30 2011 17:51 Rarak wrote: July needed to pressure early, so obvious.. Kinda baffling people make these comments when they have perfect vision over the game while sitting back in their chairs having someone analyze it for them. | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
April 30 2011 08:53 GMT
#2543
On April 30 2011 17:52 Mephiztopheles1 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 30 2011 17:47 Seronei wrote: On April 30 2011 17:46 Footler wrote: Enjoy the next patch anypro. Next patch won't nerf that strat. Will delay it enough for July to get tunneling claws in time to snipe some sentries. Baaaaagh, I like July so much, I wanted him to go through :S July had time, he chose roach speed over burrow, and only made roaches when he knew what the sentry count of Anypro was. | ||
bEnBo
United States144 Posts
April 30 2011 08:53 GMT
#2544
On April 30 2011 17:48 Elementsu wrote: Show nested quote + On April 30 2011 17:45 nick1689 wrote: Lol its funny, if July opted to instead go for an all-in 2 base Roach attack, instead of expanding, everyone here would be talking about how awesome his play is... Yet as soon as any toss all-ins everyone QQs Because toss allins are very good an easy to execute, and you can win just doing them like anypro, while zerg allins need better execution and more thought behind it. This probably the worst thing I have ever read on team liquid. Seriously, go post on the blizzard forums and leave this thread. This thread has no place for bronze newb qq zerg balance whining. You have no idea how tight the timings where on that all in nor how difficult it was to execute, and you were probably cheering yesterday when Losira allin'd Alicia with that roach ling push that is near impossible to stop. | ||
L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
April 30 2011 08:53 GMT
#2545
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
April 30 2011 08:53 GMT
#2546
On April 30 2011 17:48 HolyArrow wrote: The next patch doesn't even have any effect on what anyPro did in game 3, I think. Are you kidding? Slower warp gate research time, smaller pylon radius. Might seem small but it's a big deal right there. Anypro won't be able to mass up as fast and in the big battles, he won't be able to fight as efficiently. 7 warp gate rushes like that won't be economical anymore. Of course, since anypro is prone to all-ins, he'll probably benefit from the shorter gateway unit build time. Or he could still go for this crazy 7 warpgate rush, which will be a lot less efficient and economical. | ||
sm0b
United States157 Posts
April 30 2011 08:54 GMT
#2547
One thing July zerg could have possibly done is noticed the lack of units Protoss had as his third went down and all-in'd himself with roaches and lings (before that strong Protoss timing came). I've had some decent success with this on ladder when I see 3 gate expand or Forge FE, although I'm only mid-masters. | ||
ALPINA
3791 Posts
April 30 2011 08:54 GMT
#2548
On April 30 2011 17:51 TheTenthDoc wrote: Show nested quote + On April 30 2011 17:49 Skipton wrote: The issue is that what AnyPro did was not really difficult to do. Defending a 7 gate timing attack is MUCH harder than executing it. I would agree...but I've never seen this build executed this perfectly before. His timing was immaculate. July's was not, so he lost. Be so kind to explain why July's timing was bad? lol He made everything right, scouted in time and got upgrades and roaches in time. Maybe he attacked in bad position but you can't do much about FFs anyway.. | ||
WingEn
84 Posts
April 30 2011 08:54 GMT
#2549
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Seam
United States1093 Posts
April 30 2011 08:54 GMT
#2550
On April 30 2011 17:52 whiterabbit wrote: I am disgusted by amount of tears from Zerg players on LR threads. First it was funny, but lately it became just stupid. Go back to Idra fanclub and whine about everything that kills you. And is there even a way for Protoss to win and not get flamed? Early game win = flame, mid game win = flame, late game win = flame... and then when some lovely Zerg player annihilates some Protoss with all kind of gimmicky strats that's all fine and justified. I am not P player and I cheered for July but amount of scrubs who are trying to justify their Bronze leagues on LR topics is just too pathetic. I think the reason people are complaining is due to the fact that it's frustrating to watch someone you know is better lose because he couldn't defend an all-in. If that is justified or not, I think that's why they are doing it. | ||
Rayansaki
Portugal1266 Posts
April 30 2011 08:54 GMT
#2551
On April 30 2011 17:46 ThePieRate wrote: Show nested quote + On April 30 2011 17:45 Rarak wrote: These live reports are getting so lame with all tge zerg crying. When Losira crushed alicia noone claimed imba, july just let it slip, anypro is decent. Move on Losira didn't cheese out a player who is obviously better than him. This the same reason why no one likes Rain. He cheesed Nestea out of a GSL with bunker rushes and marine scv all ins. You mean like last season when july cheesed mvp out of the group stage? | ||
bbQ4Aiur
Hong Kong2752 Posts
April 30 2011 08:54 GMT
#2552
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
April 30 2011 08:54 GMT
#2553
On April 30 2011 17:48 Elementsu wrote: Show nested quote + On April 30 2011 17:45 nick1689 wrote: Lol its funny, if July opted to instead go for an all-in 2 base Roach attack, instead of expanding, everyone here would be talking about how awesome his play is... Yet as soon as any toss all-ins everyone QQs Because toss allins are very good an easy to execute, and you can win just doing them like anypro, while zerg allins need better execution and more thought behind it. 1. make drones 2. make roaches 3. kill everything he has because all he has are sentries and 2 cannons 4. win the game doesn't seem that hard to me | ||
sc2olorin
292 Posts
April 30 2011 08:55 GMT
#2554
2. Force engagements near third base to whittle down sentry energy/kill sentries while using burrow movement to keep as many roaches alive as possible (buying time for spines to get up) 3. Move back to natural and defend to victory. | ||
TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
April 30 2011 08:55 GMT
#2555
On April 30 2011 17:54 Alpina wrote: Show nested quote + On April 30 2011 17:51 TheTenthDoc wrote: On April 30 2011 17:49 Skipton wrote: The issue is that what AnyPro did was not really difficult to do. Defending a 7 gate timing attack is MUCH harder than executing it. I would agree...but I've never seen this build executed this perfectly before. His timing was immaculate. July's was not, so he lost. Be so kind to explain why July's timing was bad? lol He made everything right, scouted in time and got upgrades and roaches in time. Maybe he attacked in bad position but you can't do much about FFs anyway.. I didn't say July's timing was bad. But it wasn't immaculate. He didn't have any upgrades, he engaged in a poor position, and he lost. Anypro had better upgrades, better positioning, and the tech to counter what little tech July had (the roach movement/burrow). | ||
nick1689
Australia494 Posts
April 30 2011 08:55 GMT
#2556
On April 30 2011 17:47 Chise wrote: Show nested quote + On April 30 2011 17:45 nick1689 wrote: Lol its funny, if July opted to instead go for an all-in 2 base Roach attack, instead of expanding, everyone here would be talking about how awesome his play is... Yet as soon as any toss all-ins everyone QQs There's a difference in deciding to Allin before the game even started and reacting to a hole in your opponents play by Allinning. Prove to me that he decided to all-in before the game started, instead of playing it out in-game. Anypro knows that after FEing the zerg either has to FE himself (ie quick 3rd), or all in - July didnt all in clearly, so anypro knew that he would know have a good timing attack when July was getting his third up and running Thats a solid strategy (if that is the way he planned it) On April 30 2011 17:48 Elementsu wrote: Show nested quote + On April 30 2011 17:45 nick1689 wrote: Lol its funny, if July opted to instead go for an all-in 2 base Roach attack, instead of expanding, everyone here would be talking about how awesome his play is... Yet as soon as any toss all-ins everyone QQs Because toss allins are very good an easy to execute, and you can win just doing them like anypro, while zerg allins need better execution and more thought behind it. SIGH. Try and get rid of your bias, then come back and post more | ||
bEnBo
United States144 Posts
April 30 2011 08:55 GMT
#2557
On April 30 2011 17:54 Alpina wrote: Show nested quote + On April 30 2011 17:51 TheTenthDoc wrote: On April 30 2011 17:49 Skipton wrote: The issue is that what AnyPro did was not really difficult to do. Defending a 7 gate timing attack is MUCH harder than executing it. I would agree...but I've never seen this build executed this perfectly before. His timing was immaculate. July's was not, so he lost. Be so kind to explain why July's timing was bad? lol He made everything right, scouted in time and got upgrades and roaches in time. Maybe he attacked in bad position but you can't do much about FFs anyway.. For a push that late with upgrades its called roach/hydra. | ||
ZapRoffo
United States5544 Posts
April 30 2011 08:55 GMT
#2558
On April 30 2011 17:54 Alpina wrote: Show nested quote + On April 30 2011 17:51 TheTenthDoc wrote: On April 30 2011 17:49 Skipton wrote: The issue is that what AnyPro did was not really difficult to do. Defending a 7 gate timing attack is MUCH harder than executing it. I would agree...but I've never seen this build executed this perfectly before. His timing was immaculate. July's was not, so he lost. Be so kind to explain why July's timing was bad? lol He made everything right, scouted in time and got upgrades and roaches in time. Maybe he attacked in bad position but you can't do much about FFs anyway.. Maybe not have 90% of his roaches bash their heads against FFs for a good 10-15 seconds while being picked off but back off and then go back? | ||
Rebel_lion
United States271 Posts
April 30 2011 08:55 GMT
#2559
Protoss has most cost effective units plus the easiest army to mass (warp in helps alot) I'm just stunned. wow. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
akalarry
United States1978 Posts
April 30 2011 08:55 GMT
#2560
On April 30 2011 17:53 bEnBo wrote: Show nested quote + On April 30 2011 17:48 Elementsu wrote: On April 30 2011 17:45 nick1689 wrote: Lol its funny, if July opted to instead go for an all-in 2 base Roach attack, instead of expanding, everyone here would be talking about how awesome his play is... Yet as soon as any toss all-ins everyone QQs Because toss allins are very good an easy to execute, and you can win just doing them like anypro, while zerg allins need better execution and more thought behind it. This probably the worst thing I have ever read on team liquid. Seriously, go post on the blizzard forums and leave this thread. This thread has no place for bronze newb qq zerg balance whining. You have no idea how tight the timings where on that all in nor how difficult it was to execute, and you were probably cheering yesterday when Losira allin'd Alicia with that roach ling push that is near impossible to stop. please, alicia messed up the first game. second game was a build order loss because he went stargate. if it was a normal 3 gate expand with 2 cannons and actually some units it wouldve been different with his perfect force fields | ||
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