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On April 25 2011 06:08 Tiel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2011 06:05 DorN wrote:On April 25 2011 06:04 Vimsey wrote:On April 25 2011 06:00 Azarkon wrote: 4x Europeans, 4x ex-WC 3 players, 4x players who qualified through the TLOpen.
TSL 3: the tournament that signaled the end of the old order? Possibly but the Chinese will be coming soon. I hope so. Wanna see Sky,infi,ted in action. Sky's brother is playing in the stars war tournament, think i saw one game of infi in beta. ted retired from wc3, but maybe he would make a comeback for sc2 though iunno. one can always hope ofc So I guess nobody plays undead now? not followed it this year at all.
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On April 25 2011 06:05 hugman wrote: Are the semifinals Bo5 or Bo7? Semis and the grand final is bo7
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On April 25 2011 06:02 Paradice wrote: So amazing how many people in this tournament, when reality doesn't meat up with their expectations of who should have won (or why), they claim that reality is wrong. It's just mind boggling.
Man exactly what i was thinking too.
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On April 25 2011 06:08 zul wrote: Oh boy, I am so sick of the SC:bw vs Wc3 and EU vs NA vs KOR talk, cuz it means nothing. 4 excellent players made to the semis - thats it. I knew your from Germany by reading this post ^^
Just let us have fun. Its not that it is meant negative. Just dancing a bit on the nose of Koreans, Americans and Ex-BW-players.
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On April 25 2011 06:06 AlBundy wrote: What's up with the EU vs NA / KR? This is pathetic guys. As an european I do not endorse this behavior.
Why wouldnt you? Its part of every kind of sport to chose someone you can cheer for. The easiest way to do so is chosing someone by either the players location or his race.
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On April 25 2011 06:08 Skipton wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2011 06:06 mathemagician1986 wrote:On April 25 2011 06:01 Skipton wrote:On April 25 2011 06:00 Caphe wrote:On April 25 2011 05:55 Qwix wrote: The top 4 spots filled by Europeans, what a surprise.. oh wait. And European get smash by Korean in LIVE tourney across EU. Whenver there is Korean in a LIVE tourney, they will win it. Noone for me to root for anymore, hope Naniwa or Thorzain takes it cos they are the best 2 left. Pretty much this. Live GSL world championship foreigners didn't even get close to winning it and MC fly's in a 4-0 in Copenhagen. Don't underestimate how a live stage affects nerves. MC played tons of televised matches, whereas most europeans haven't. So we could argue foreigners are actually better players but just have to get used to the live pressure. I guess time will tell. I see the gap extending though not shortening with training houses having a larger impact over time.
that's certainly true. I think it's not really so much that koreans are better at SC2. It's their way of training that makes them so good, so the more foreigners practise under the same conditions, the more equal it will be in the future.
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people should really stop stuff saying like "Eu is best" its just one tournament you cant base your argument on one tournament thats not even offline but online i know all the people in europe want to brag their superiority in TSL but you cant just say theyre better based on one tourney
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On April 25 2011 06:09 Greensmurf wrote: Is there any chance of getting the replays from the games between boxer and hasu? No replays will be released. EVER!
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On April 25 2011 06:09 Greensmurf wrote: Is there any chance of getting the replays from the games between boxer and hasu? Not for a long time.
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On April 25 2011 06:09 Greensmurf wrote: Is there any chance of getting the replays from the games between boxer and hasu? nope they aren't releasing replays for TSL3
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On April 25 2011 06:07 YoungNeil wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2011 06:05 FliedLice wrote:On April 25 2011 06:05 damorphy wrote:On April 25 2011 05:58 LetoAtreides82 wrote: Hasu's pretty good but Naniwa will roll over him easily. Yeah like cruncher would be rolled over as well . Or like HuK rolled over Hasu I don't think anybody was expecting that, really. HuK was probably considered a slight favourite, but everybody had already seen too much of his PvP to be confident. Hasu had a pretty strong reputation in PvP coming in as well, so I don't think many people were too surprised about the outcome. I was expecting a 2-1 in either direction, personally.
I said that it was relatively even all the time but....
This was the liquibet for that match: TLAF-Liquid`HuK 89% (6860 : 860)
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On April 25 2011 06:07 arb wrote: No Zergs No BW Players None left in the Final 4 Guess my TSL3 Experienced ended here Hopefully Kas wins though.
Glad you watch SC2 for anything other than SC2 matches! I don't get it. Do the games suddenly get less interesting if the one playing USED to play WC3 instead of BW? Aren't they all playing SC2 now? Does it matter where they were born?
The no Zergs I can understand, but if that was truly your motivation to stop watching, why did you watch the RO8?
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On April 25 2011 06:02 Gaius Baltar wrote: A lot of people have been talking about how SC1 progamers, not WC3 progamers, are the ones succeeding at SC2.
Now let's take a look at this here TSL3. Korean SC1 players, European and NA SC1 players, and European WC3 players all entered. All that remains are four European WC3 players. Honestly, I think their macro has caught up, and perhaps their micro and creativity is starting to shine through.
I'm not saying they're dominant, just that they've truly arrived and are here to stay. Thoughts?
The biggest tournaments GSL, Assembly, Dreamhack, MLG are still almost exclusively dominated by BW players.
People have no sense of perspective, this is just one online tournament. The only WC3 player to really prove anything yet at the top level are Naniwa and maybe Moon.
I still think that in order to really prove you're at the top level you need to go to Korea and make something happen in the GSL. Like in all sports anyone can beat anyone on their day and especially when players play as many games as they do in SC2, but consistancy and winning major tournaments are what really seperate the best from the rest, which is why MC is so clearly the best player playing the game right now.
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Attacking units Toss can viably and offensively use against terran:
colossus 9 range zealots w/charge stalkers w/blink sentries w/forcefields void rays dark templars, especially late game high templars, you saw the series
dont see many immortals
For Terran against Toss: marines w/stim marauders w/stim + slow ghosts vikings (doesn't really count since they're useless if collosus aren't there)
mech is very risky and is incredibly slow, besides thors blow and tanks vs blink stalkers? lol
so 2 out of 3 tier 3 units that toss can build and none for terran
just seems like toss has way more options, especially late game
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I expect NA is going to crush when IGN/nasl has had a little bit of time and teams start forming houses specifically for those leagues.
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On April 25 2011 06:06 TYJ.Aoy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2011 06:04 Project Psycho wrote: Europeans taking over the world(again). Some awesome games, i was hoping Cruncher would win but am pretty sure he still proved to be one of the best protoss players in the world, all the games naniwa won were epically close. Again?I only saw this happening in online tournaments, could you (or anyone) PLEASE point out a non-cross server tournament won by europeans?
MLG?
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On April 25 2011 06:10 ScaringKids wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2011 06:02 Paradice wrote: So amazing how many people in this tournament, when reality doesn't meat up with their expectations of who should have won (or why), they claim that reality is wrong. It's just mind boggling. Man exactly what i was thinking too.
Frustration. People expect Boxer to beat HasuObs. I know I did.
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On April 25 2011 06:01 Skipton wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2011 06:00 Caphe wrote:On April 25 2011 05:55 Qwix wrote: The top 4 spots filled by Europeans, what a surprise.. oh wait. And European get smash by Korean in LIVE tourney across EU. Whenver there is Korean in a LIVE tourney, they will win it. Noone for me to root for anymore, hope Naniwa or Thorzain takes it cos they are the best 2 left. Pretty much this. Live GSL world championship foreigners didn't even get close to winning it and MC fly's in a 4-0 in Copenhagen.
And MC lost 3 games to WhiteRa in LIVE events. WhiteRa's PvP is good but it's really not even close to be the best in Europe.. The best Korean pros barely won in a LIVE event 8-7 against some foreign players.. I mean, TT1, Morrow, Moonglade, Huk are good, but the best??
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On April 25 2011 06:10 TicketoHELL wrote: people should really stop stuff saying like "Eu is best" its just one tournament you cant base your argument on one tournament thats not even offline but online i know all the people in europe want to brag their superiority in TSL but you cant just say theyre better based on one tourney
they are just rooting for europe, where they live . They all know korea is best....
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On April 25 2011 06:09 Vimsey wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2011 06:08 Tiel wrote:On April 25 2011 06:05 DorN wrote:On April 25 2011 06:04 Vimsey wrote:On April 25 2011 06:00 Azarkon wrote: 4x Europeans, 4x ex-WC 3 players, 4x players who qualified through the TLOpen.
TSL 3: the tournament that signaled the end of the old order? Possibly but the Chinese will be coming soon. I hope so. Wanna see Sky,infi,ted in action. Sky's brother is playing in the stars war tournament, think i saw one game of infi in beta. ted retired from wc3, but maybe he would make a comeback for sc2 though iunno. one can always hope ofc So I guess nobody plays undead now? not followed it this year at all. Lucifer is back and so is Sweet. But yeah, UD is a dead race... But that's nothing new... only TeD showed some results in the last years, all other players just failed.
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