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Arguing and whining in this thread will be met with the hammer. Please enjoy the games and keep this thread on track!
Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
April 24 2011 21:09 GMT
#3941
On April 25 2011 06:08 Tiel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 06:05 DorN wrote:
On April 25 2011 06:04 Vimsey wrote:
On April 25 2011 06:00 Azarkon wrote:
4x Europeans, 4x ex-WC 3 players, 4x players who qualified through the TLOpen.

TSL 3: the tournament that signaled the end of the old order?

Possibly but the Chinese will be coming soon.


I hope so. Wanna see Sky,infi,ted in action.


Sky's brother is playing in the stars war tournament, think i saw one game of infi in beta. ted retired from wc3, but maybe he would make a comeback for sc2 though iunno. one can always hope ofc


So I guess nobody plays undead now? not followed it this year at all.
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
April 24 2011 21:10 GMT
#3942
On April 25 2011 06:05 hugman wrote:
Are the semifinals Bo5 or Bo7?

Semis and the grand final is bo7
ScaringKids
Profile Joined November 2010
Portugal819 Posts
April 24 2011 21:10 GMT
#3943
On April 25 2011 06:02 Paradice wrote:
So amazing how many people in this tournament, when reality doesn't meat up with their expectations of who should have won (or why), they claim that reality is wrong. It's just mind boggling.


Man exactly what i was thinking too.
MC | NesTea | Jaedong | PartinG | Liquid'HerO | MvP | Flash | White-Ra | Polt | Squirtle |
gnutz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany666 Posts
April 24 2011 21:10 GMT
#3944
On April 25 2011 06:08 zul wrote:
Oh boy, I am so sick of the SC:bw vs Wc3 and EU vs NA vs KOR talk, cuz it means nothing. 4 excellent players made to the semis - thats it.

I knew your from Germany by reading this post ^^

Just let us have fun. Its not that it is meant negative. Just dancing a bit on the nose of Koreans, Americans and Ex-BW-players.

DorN
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany90 Posts
April 24 2011 21:10 GMT
#3945
On April 25 2011 06:06 AlBundy wrote:
What's up with the EU vs NA / KR? This is pathetic guys. As an european I do not endorse this behavior.


Why wouldnt you? Its part of every kind of sport to chose someone you can cheer for.
The easiest way to do so is chosing someone by either the players location or his race.

mathemagician1986
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany549 Posts
April 24 2011 21:10 GMT
#3946
On April 25 2011 06:08 Skipton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 06:06 mathemagician1986 wrote:
On April 25 2011 06:01 Skipton wrote:
On April 25 2011 06:00 Caphe wrote:
On April 25 2011 05:55 Qwix wrote:
The top 4 spots filled by Europeans, what a surprise.. oh wait.

And European get smash by Korean in LIVE tourney across EU. Whenver there is Korean in a LIVE tourney, they will win it.

Noone for me to root for anymore, hope Naniwa or Thorzain takes it cos they are the best 2 left.


Pretty much this. Live GSL world championship foreigners didn't even get close to winning it and MC fly's in a 4-0 in Copenhagen.


Don't underestimate how a live stage affects nerves. MC played tons of televised matches, whereas most europeans haven't. So we could argue foreigners are actually better players but just have to get used to the live pressure.


I guess time will tell. I see the gap extending though not shortening with training houses having a larger impact over time.


that's certainly true. I think it's not really so much that koreans are better at SC2. It's their way of training that makes them so good, so the more foreigners practise under the same conditions, the more equal it will be in the future.
TicketoHELL
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada368 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 21:10:33
April 24 2011 21:10 GMT
#3947
people should really stop stuff saying like "Eu is best" its just one tournament you cant base your argument on one tournament thats not even offline but online i know all the people in europe want to brag their superiority in TSL but you cant just say theyre better based on one tourney
(づ.ㅡ) 부비적 (ㅡ.ど) 부비적 (づ.ど) 부비부비
TealLurker
Profile Joined June 2008
United States791 Posts
April 24 2011 21:10 GMT
#3948
On April 25 2011 06:09 Greensmurf wrote:
Is there any chance of getting the replays from the games between boxer and hasu?

No replays will be released. EVER!
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
April 24 2011 21:10 GMT
#3949
On April 25 2011 06:09 Greensmurf wrote:
Is there any chance of getting the replays from the games between boxer and hasu?

Not for a long time.
Lezt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States115 Posts
April 24 2011 21:10 GMT
#3950
On April 25 2011 06:09 Greensmurf wrote:
Is there any chance of getting the replays from the games between boxer and hasu?

nope they aren't releasing replays for TSL3
Wars begin when you will, but they do not end when you please - Niccolo Machiavelli
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
April 24 2011 21:10 GMT
#3951
On April 25 2011 06:07 YoungNeil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 06:05 FliedLice wrote:
On April 25 2011 06:05 damorphy wrote:
On April 25 2011 05:58 LetoAtreides82 wrote:
Hasu's pretty good but Naniwa will roll over him easily.


Yeah like cruncher would be rolled over as well .


Or like HuK rolled over Hasu

I don't think anybody was expecting that, really. HuK was probably considered a slight favourite, but everybody had already seen too much of his PvP to be confident. Hasu had a pretty strong reputation in PvP coming in as well, so I don't think many people were too surprised about the outcome. I was expecting a 2-1 in either direction, personally.


I said that it was relatively even all the time but....

This was the liquibet for that match:
TLAF-Liquid`HuK 89% (6860 : 860)
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
April 24 2011 21:10 GMT
#3952
On April 25 2011 06:07 arb wrote:
No Zergs
No BW Players
None left in the Final 4
Guess my TSL3 Experienced ended here
Hopefully Kas wins though.


Glad you watch SC2 for anything other than SC2 matches! I don't get it. Do the games suddenly get less interesting if the one playing USED to play WC3 instead of BW? Aren't they all playing SC2 now? Does it matter where they were born?

The no Zergs I can understand, but if that was truly your motivation to stop watching, why did you watch the RO8?
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ | ┻━┻ ︵╰(°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
April 24 2011 21:10 GMT
#3953
On April 25 2011 06:02 Gaius Baltar wrote:
A lot of people have been talking about how SC1 progamers, not WC3 progamers, are the ones succeeding at SC2.

Now let's take a look at this here TSL3. Korean SC1 players, European and NA SC1 players, and European WC3 players all entered. All that remains are four European WC3 players. Honestly, I think their macro has caught up, and perhaps their micro and creativity is starting to shine through.

I'm not saying they're dominant, just that they've truly arrived and are here to stay. Thoughts?


The biggest tournaments GSL, Assembly, Dreamhack, MLG are still almost exclusively dominated by BW players.

People have no sense of perspective, this is just one online tournament. The only WC3 player to really prove anything yet at the top level are Naniwa and maybe Moon.

I still think that in order to really prove you're at the top level you need to go to Korea and make something happen in the GSL. Like in all sports anyone can beat anyone on their day and especially when players play as many games as they do in SC2, but consistancy and winning major tournaments are what really seperate the best from the rest, which is why MC is so clearly the best player playing the game right now.
MadVillain
Profile Joined June 2010
United States402 Posts
April 24 2011 21:10 GMT
#3954
Attacking units Toss can viably and offensively use against terran:

colossus 9 range
zealots w/charge
stalkers w/blink
sentries w/forcefields
void rays
dark templars, especially late game
high templars, you saw the series

dont see many immortals

For Terran against Toss:
marines w/stim
marauders w/stim + slow
ghosts
vikings (doesn't really count since they're useless if collosus aren't there)

mech is very risky and is incredibly slow, besides thors blow and tanks vs blink stalkers? lol

so 2 out of 3 tier 3 units that toss can build and none for terran

just seems like toss has way more options, especially late game
For The Swarm!
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
April 24 2011 21:11 GMT
#3955
I expect NA is going to crush when IGN/nasl has had a little bit of time and teams start forming houses specifically for those leagues.
OnlineHero
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark647 Posts
April 24 2011 21:11 GMT
#3956
On April 25 2011 06:06 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 06:04 Project Psycho wrote:
Europeans taking over the world(again). Some awesome games, i was hoping Cruncher would win but am pretty sure he still proved to be one of the best protoss players in the world, all the games naniwa won were epically close.

Again?I only saw this happening in online tournaments, could you (or anyone) PLEASE point out a non-cross server tournament won by europeans?


MLG?
<3
RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2093 Posts
April 24 2011 21:11 GMT
#3957
On April 25 2011 06:10 ScaringKids wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 06:02 Paradice wrote:
So amazing how many people in this tournament, when reality doesn't meat up with their expectations of who should have won (or why), they claim that reality is wrong. It's just mind boggling.


Man exactly what i was thinking too.


Frustration. People expect Boxer to beat HasuObs. I know I did.
#1 Jaehoon Fan! 김재훈 화팅!
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
April 24 2011 21:11 GMT
#3958
On April 25 2011 06:01 Skipton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 06:00 Caphe wrote:
On April 25 2011 05:55 Qwix wrote:
The top 4 spots filled by Europeans, what a surprise.. oh wait.

And European get smash by Korean in LIVE tourney across EU. Whenver there is Korean in a LIVE tourney, they will win it.

Noone for me to root for anymore, hope Naniwa or Thorzain takes it cos they are the best 2 left.


Pretty much this. Live GSL world championship foreigners didn't even get close to winning it and MC fly's in a 4-0 in Copenhagen.


And MC lost 3 games to WhiteRa in LIVE events. WhiteRa's PvP is good but it's really not even close to be the best in Europe.. The best Korean pros barely won in a LIVE event 8-7 against some foreign players.. I mean, TT1, Morrow, Moonglade, Huk are good, but the best??
ZeraToss
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1094 Posts
April 24 2011 21:11 GMT
#3959
On April 25 2011 06:10 TicketoHELL wrote:
people should really stop stuff saying like "Eu is best" its just one tournament you cant base your argument on one tournament thats not even offline but online i know all the people in europe want to brag their superiority in TSL but you cant just say theyre better based on one tourney


they are just rooting for europe, where they live . They all know korea is best....
"Personality should be irrelevant. This is a computer game tournament, not a dating show." EGIdrA on "introduce yourself and say something about your personality" Idra <3
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 24 2011 21:11 GMT
#3960
On April 25 2011 06:09 Vimsey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 06:08 Tiel wrote:
On April 25 2011 06:05 DorN wrote:
On April 25 2011 06:04 Vimsey wrote:
On April 25 2011 06:00 Azarkon wrote:
4x Europeans, 4x ex-WC 3 players, 4x players who qualified through the TLOpen.

TSL 3: the tournament that signaled the end of the old order?

Possibly but the Chinese will be coming soon.


I hope so. Wanna see Sky,infi,ted in action.


Sky's brother is playing in the stars war tournament, think i saw one game of infi in beta. ted retired from wc3, but maybe he would make a comeback for sc2 though iunno. one can always hope ofc


So I guess nobody plays undead now? not followed it this year at all.

Lucifer is back and so is Sweet. But yeah, UD is a dead race... But that's nothing new... only TeD showed some results in the last years, all other players just failed.
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