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On April 17 2011 06:29 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 06:27 Dawski wrote:On April 17 2011 06:26 rapture wrote:
i think hasu wins now. zerg was way too passiv the last 10 minutes wtf are you talking about, zerg was as aggressive as anyone could POSSIBLY get. im sick of comments like this, same comments as idra vs MC game. he did 3 pushes in a row in the same FF choke just for the sake of pushing on aggression. That just pisses me off I am sick of zergs thinking that was aggressive play. Where were the drops and Nydus Worms? Protoss was spread out, you can harass somewhere in that situation
If Morrow had drop tech when he was pushing along the bottom lane into Hasu's nat he could so easily have dropped the main and snipped half of Hasu's production facilities. He really needed drop tech.
Without drop tech Morrow had no choice but to attack into the nat (or the back of the 3rd which is just as much of a choke). FFs allow toss to turtle pretty hard and on metalopolis the bases are just too close together to exploit any immobility on the part of the tosses army. Being 60 supply up really doesn't help if the only places you can attack (wihtout drop tech or nydus I admit) is into a choke, FF'd created or otherwise.
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On April 17 2011 06:33 LastMan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 06:30 coldonthecob wrote:
Why does zerg have to constantly harass and attack when toss can just turtle all game either way and still have advantage? Broken match up. no offense but terran has to harass in every matchup to stand a chance later in game
There are also times when protoss has to harass as well you never want to leave your opponent to do whatever they want whatever race they play.
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Oh look, preparing for a baneling bust.
Morrow shows again he has 0 confidence with zerg late game units.
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On April 17 2011 06:28 Nakas wrote:
Neither of these casters knows a damn thing about zerg.
:D
Never ceases to amaze me !
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Fast speedling/baneling drop?
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Why isn't he making anymore queens? oh wait banelings lol
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On April 17 2011 06:34 loveeholicce wrote:Because if you try to hatch first and end up getting scouted first or 2nd try then the probe blocks ur hatch and it throws u off too much.
And then... you go to the other natural you have? How's a toss going to block two spots at once? By sending out 2 Probes?
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This is what Dimaga used against MC right? Fast nexus, he goes ling/bling drops.
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Baneling drop eh, too bad it got spotted by a phoenix
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Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On April 17 2011 06:35 MoonBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 06:33 MoonBear wrote:2:00Hasu with forge FE, Morrow with gas-pool. Hasu blocks the nat with a patrolling probe. Morrow doesn't even try to take his nat. 4:306 lings drive away the probe. Morrow takes his nat but Hasu already has his second nexus completed. Ling speed finishes. Hasu takes his third gas gyser, and drops a cybercore.
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Morrow's drone scout only goes around in circles in the Protoss main. Hasu builds a stargate at his natural instead. Morrow hasn't seen anything. Lair done for Morrow. Voidray being chrono-ed.
Drone eventually sees the stargate just as the void pops. Phoenix being made now. Morrow researching drops, so he can't build queens.
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On April 17 2011 06:35 Sneakyz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 06:33 greycubed wrote:On April 17 2011 06:31 partisan wrote:On April 17 2011 06:28 Nakas wrote:
Neither of these casters knows a damn thing about zerg. Really? Day9 knows nothing about zerg, you heard it here first everyone. :-/ Really Day9 criticize zergs is painful to watch. He seems to forget the vespene gas costs of units late game. And even at launch, prior to the like 4 straight pro-zerg balance patches he was saying "it's all balanced fine- zergs just aren't playing right." Day9 understands the fundamentals of an RTS very well, but he is not infallible. Or maybe he knows because he played a game that evolved over 12 years
I think his criticism of the gas first against protss is way over top.
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Cheese incoming. Well, Morrow no longer looks like a solid macro player :/
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Ahhhh morrrow doing 2 base ling bling drop! I've been doing this strat for ages vs Protoss FE's, hope he executes it perfectly!
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Morrow looking pretty fucked right about now
and then he picks everything up and kills the main
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As a zerg player, it pains me to see a bunch of whiny zergs trying to make this thread the place to sound off about balance.
Not the place, people.
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On April 17 2011 06:36 HwangjaeTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 06:28 Nakas wrote:
Neither of these casters knows a damn thing about zerg. :D Never ceases to amaze me !
Haha, Nakas knows nothing about these casters :p
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Hahaha there is one overlord with no units and hasu targets that one :D
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Why do people only cite supply? Jesus christ, that's the dumbest thing to look at in something that's not a mirror match. Let's say a Zerg is 200/200 against a 120/200 Protoss. Furthermore, the Zerg has 20 more workers than the toss. Thus, the Zerg has an army that is 60 supply bigger than the Protoss, but what people don't realize is that many zerg units are much cheaper than Protoss units yet cost the same supply - in other words, supply-inefficient. That's why you need to be far more aggressive as Zerg than MorroW was that game, so you don't fall to supply inefficiency. Like others said, you also need to exploit mobility. Why MorroW only attacked into chokes to get FF'd off I don't know. The sad thing is that all these QQers will cover their ears and just go "NO, MORROW COULDN'T HAVE DONE ANYTHING ELSE, WAHH!" without actually looking at Zerg play such as Coca's play that knocked out Ace which took advantage of big drops, or Losira's play which takes advantage of every little hole in the Toss's defense to do pokes.
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