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On April 17 2011 06:33 greycubed wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 06:31 partisan wrote:On April 17 2011 06:28 Nakas wrote: Neither of these casters knows a damn thing about zerg. Really? Day9 knows nothing about zerg, you heard it here first everyone. :-/ Really Day9 criticize zergs is painful to watch. He seems to forget the vespene gas costs of units late game. And even at launch, prior to the like 4 straight pro-zerg balance patches he was saying "it's all balanced fine- zergs just aren't playing right." Day9 understands the fundamentals of an RTS very well, but he is not infallible. Erm... what???
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the game is on for 6 minutes now, refresh stream guys!
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Fast lair, I'm guessing hydra drop, maybe nydus.
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On April 17 2011 06:30 HowardRoark wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 06:27 .Enigma. wrote: ZvP is just not fun to watch at all, not arguing balance AT ALL. It's just boring to watch. Yeah, it's really boring, only topped by PvT. In long games it almost feels like the Protoss is on automatic. What I mean is that if I were to take over Nada's 200 army in Broodwar I would be totally destroyed, but if I would take over Hasuobs' army even I as a noob could roflstomp Morrow's 200 army. BTW, doesn't it sound like Day9 already seen the match, or at least skimmed it trough?
wouldnt say that, he just foresaw what was going to happen due to morrow lacking hive etc
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Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On April 17 2011 06:33 MoonBear wrote:2:00Hasu with forge FE, Morrow with gas-pool. Hasu blocks the nat with a patrolling probe. Morrow doesn't even try to take his nat. 4:30 6 lings drive away the probe. Morrow takes his nat but Hasu already has his second nexus completed. Ling speed finishes. Hasu takes his third gas gyser, and drops a cybercore.
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Could someone ask the day+ sidekick how he usually holds of canons with a hatch first?
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On April 17 2011 06:29 DrakeFZX3 wrote: Morrow's play is infuriating because he's had chances to harass Hasu's bases and utilize drops into the main while Hasu's army is out of position.
But he constantly chooses to engage the main army at the choke between bases which is not wise at all.
More Zergs really need to adapt a harass mentality rather than a head on engagement against a deathball.
Its not only that. You CAN engage the army directly, though you have to be fuckin relentless and really commit to attacking and slowly but surely dwindle the forces of the toss player. Artosis vs Sheth was good example of this.
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On April 17 2011 06:33 greycubed wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 06:31 partisan wrote:On April 17 2011 06:28 Nakas wrote: Neither of these casters knows a damn thing about zerg. Really? Day9 knows nothing about zerg, you heard it here first everyone. :-/ Really Day9 criticize zergs is painful to watch. He seems to forget the vespene gas costs of units late game. And even at launch, prior to the like 4 straight pro-zerg balance patches he was saying "it's all balanced fine- zergs just aren't playing right." Day9 understands the fundamentals of an RTS very well, but he is not infallible. Or maybe he knows because he played a game that evolved over 12 years
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On April 17 2011 06:32 TheAwesomeAll wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 06:30 HwangjaeTerran wrote: This matchup is just really hard to like. When I see one race with 110 supply and other maxed I think the zerg should just be able to smash the protoss :S Having to wait for hive tech for the first real clash..uhh it's just not a dynamic matchup IMO roach hydra is just really supply ineffiecient, while blings are the most supply efficient units in the game. Today i saw my deadball melt in like 4 seconds to blings and infestors  not funny.
Any army is inefficient when it is infinitely cut in half, but you know whats even less efficient? A split up toss army.
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On April 17 2011 06:33 greycubed wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 06:31 partisan wrote:On April 17 2011 06:28 Nakas wrote: Neither of these casters knows a damn thing about zerg. Really? Day9 knows nothing about zerg, you heard it here first everyone. :-/ Really Day9 criticize zergs is painful to watch. He seems to forget the vespene gas costs of units late game. And even at launch, prior to the like 4 straight pro-zerg balance patches he was saying "it's all balanced fine- zergs just aren't playing right." Day9 understands the fundamentals of an RTS very well, but he is not infallible. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Stop trying to sum up day's statements by putting blanket bullcrap into his mouth.
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On April 17 2011 06:31 littlejunior wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 06:31 partisan wrote:On April 17 2011 06:28 Nakas wrote: Neither of these casters knows a damn thing about zerg. Really? Day9 knows nothing about zerg, you heard it here first everyone. :-/ My eyes! OHhhh. It hhhurt! 
Yeah who's this Day[9] guy?
New to the StarCraft scene?
Obviously has never played Zerg in StarCraft before.
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On April 17 2011 06:30 pilsken wrote: Stop talking about Max vs 130 food. Roaches cost an absurd amount of supply, Zerg will have about 15-20 harvesters more and 3-4 queens.
Being maxed on Roaches is a joke. You need to employ other strats as Zerg to beat a turtle-toss.
I always see people posting here about "other strats", "more aggressive", etc. How about you posting what exactly those strats are?
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On April 17 2011 06:33 pilsken wrote: Gas/Pool on Terminus?
Why...? Cuz Hasu could go 4 warpgate with proxy pylon and map size is suddenly irrelevant.
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More Zergs need to play like Sheth vs. Artosis, those games were awesome to watch. :D
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On April 17 2011 06:31 partisan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 06:28 Nakas wrote: Neither of these casters knows a damn thing about zerg. Really? Day9 knows nothing about zerg, you heard it here first everyone. :-/
Based on the dumb stuff he's saying, he clearly doesn't understand zerg. He needs to watch some streams from Sheth and Idra, then he would understood why Morrow did the roach attack.
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I find the contrast of people seeing MC win over Z compared to seeing Hasu win over Z extremely funny.
If MC wins he's the greatest player ever, when Hasu wins it's turtling till 4 bases and A-moving. Funny. :>
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On April 17 2011 06:34 Islandsnake wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 06:34 Jergen wrote: Wow, what the hell. 7 Hotels.com commercials in row? Seriously? Ok its not just me then? T_T What the heck haha
Refreshing worked for me. But jeeez, that was obnoxious.
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Fast lair and ventrals, I LOVE IT.
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