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najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
April 16 2011 21:34 GMT
#4501
On April 17 2011 06:33 greycubed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 06:31 partisan wrote:
On April 17 2011 06:28 Nakas wrote:
Neither of these casters knows a damn thing about zerg.



Really? Day9 knows nothing about zerg, you heard it here first everyone. :-/
Really Day9 criticize zergs is painful to watch. He seems to forget the vespene gas costs of units late game. And even at launch, prior to the like 4 straight pro-zerg balance patches he was saying "it's all balanced fine- zergs just aren't playing right." Day9 understands the fundamentals of an RTS very well, but he is not infallible.

Erm... what???
I have no quote!
Mutaahh
Profile Joined June 2007
Netherlands859 Posts
April 16 2011 21:34 GMT
#4502
the game is on for 6 minutes now, refresh stream guys!
I want to fly
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
April 16 2011 21:34 GMT
#4503
Fast lair, I'm guessing hydra drop, maybe nydus.
LEEKsc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden380 Posts
April 16 2011 21:34 GMT
#4504
On April 17 2011 06:30 HowardRoark wrote:
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On April 17 2011 06:27 .Enigma. wrote:
ZvP is just not fun to watch at all, not arguing balance AT ALL. It's just boring to watch.

Yeah, it's really boring, only topped by PvT. In long games it almost feels like the Protoss is on automatic. What I mean is that if I were to take over Nada's 200 army in Broodwar I would be totally destroyed, but if I would take over Hasuobs' army even I as a noob could roflstomp Morrow's 200 army.

BTW, doesn't it sound like Day9 already seen the match, or at least skimmed it trough?


wouldnt say that, he just foresaw what was going to happen due to morrow lacking hive etc
RIP our beloved Amulet, we will never forget. // nAni #1 prOb rush
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
April 16 2011 21:35 GMT
#4505
On April 17 2011 06:33 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 06:31 MoonBear wrote:
Match 2: GSL`Terminus RE
[image loading] (P)mouz.HasuObs 1 vs 0 [image loading] (Z)mouz.MorroW

(P)mouz.HasuObs spawns as Red Protoss @9
(Z)mouz.MorroW spawns as Blue Zerg @3

2:00
Hasu with forge FE, Morrow with gas-pool. Hasu blocks the nat with a patrolling probe. Morrow doesn't even try to take his nat.

4:30
6 lings drive away the probe. Morrow takes his nat but Hasu already has his second nexus completed. Ling speed finishes. Hasu takes his third gas gyser, and drops a cybercore.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
April 16 2011 21:35 GMT
#4506
Could someone ask the day+ sidekick how he usually holds of canons with a hatch first?
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 21:35:14
April 16 2011 21:35 GMT
#4507
On April 17 2011 06:29 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
Morrow's play is infuriating because he's had chances to harass Hasu's bases and utilize drops into the main while Hasu's army is out of position.

But he constantly chooses to engage the main army at the choke between bases which is not wise at all.

More Zergs really need to adapt a harass mentality rather than a head on engagement against a deathball.


Its not only that. You CAN engage the army directly, though you have to be fuckin relentless and really commit to attacking and slowly but surely dwindle the forces of the toss player. Artosis vs Sheth was good example of this.
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Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
April 16 2011 21:35 GMT
#4508
On April 17 2011 06:33 greycubed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 06:31 partisan wrote:
On April 17 2011 06:28 Nakas wrote:
Neither of these casters knows a damn thing about zerg.



Really? Day9 knows nothing about zerg, you heard it here first everyone. :-/
Really Day9 criticize zergs is painful to watch. He seems to forget the vespene gas costs of units late game. And even at launch, prior to the like 4 straight pro-zerg balance patches he was saying "it's all balanced fine- zergs just aren't playing right." Day9 understands the fundamentals of an RTS very well, but he is not infallible.

Or maybe he knows because he played a game that evolved over 12 years
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
HuHEN
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom514 Posts
April 16 2011 21:35 GMT
#4509
On April 17 2011 06:32 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
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On April 17 2011 06:30 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
This matchup is just really hard to like.
When I see one race with 110 supply and other maxed I think the zerg should just be able to smash the protoss :S
Having to wait for hive tech for the first real clash..uhh it's just not a dynamic matchup IMO

roach hydra is just really supply ineffiecient, while blings are the most supply efficient units in the game. Today i saw my deadball melt in like 4 seconds to blings and infestors not funny.



Any army is inefficient when it is infinitely cut in half, but you know whats even less efficient? A split up toss army.
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 16 2011 21:35 GMT
#4510
On April 17 2011 06:33 greycubed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 06:31 partisan wrote:
On April 17 2011 06:28 Nakas wrote:
Neither of these casters knows a damn thing about zerg.



Really? Day9 knows nothing about zerg, you heard it here first everyone. :-/
Really Day9 criticize zergs is painful to watch. He seems to forget the vespene gas costs of units late game. And even at launch, prior to the like 4 straight pro-zerg balance patches he was saying "it's all balanced fine- zergs just aren't playing right." Day9 understands the fundamentals of an RTS very well, but he is not infallible.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Stop trying to sum up day's statements by putting blanket bullcrap into his mouth.
d=(^_^)z
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46692 Posts
April 16 2011 21:35 GMT
#4511
On April 17 2011 06:31 littlejunior wrote:
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On April 17 2011 06:31 partisan wrote:
On April 17 2011 06:28 Nakas wrote:
Neither of these casters knows a damn thing about zerg.



Really? Day9 knows nothing about zerg, you heard it here first everyone. :-/


My eyes! OHhhh. It hhhurt!



Yeah who's this Day[9] guy?

New to the StarCraft scene?

Obviously has never played Zerg in StarCraft before.

+ Show Spoiler +
lol
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
April 16 2011 21:35 GMT
#4512
On April 17 2011 06:30 pilsken wrote:
Stop talking about Max vs 130 food. Roaches cost an absurd amount of supply, Zerg will have about 15-20 harvesters more and 3-4 queens.

Being maxed on Roaches is a joke. You need to employ other strats as Zerg to beat a turtle-toss.


I always see people posting here about "other strats", "more aggressive", etc.
How about you posting what exactly those strats are?
Thor-axe the Impaler
Profile Joined April 2010
United States331 Posts
April 16 2011 21:35 GMT
#4513
On April 17 2011 06:33 pilsken wrote:
Gas/Pool on Terminus?

Why...?

Cuz Hasu could go 4 warpgate with proxy pylon and map size is suddenly irrelevant.
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nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
April 16 2011 21:35 GMT
#4514
More Zergs need to play like Sheth vs. Artosis, those games were awesome to watch. :D
Nakas
Profile Joined May 2010
United States148 Posts
April 16 2011 21:35 GMT
#4515
On April 17 2011 06:31 partisan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 06:28 Nakas wrote:
Neither of these casters knows a damn thing about zerg.



Really? Day9 knows nothing about zerg, you heard it here first everyone. :-/


Based on the dumb stuff he's saying, he clearly doesn't understand zerg. He needs to watch some streams from Sheth and Idra, then he would understood why Morrow did the roach attack.
Blaqwar
Profile Joined April 2011
Slovenia3 Posts
April 16 2011 21:35 GMT
#4516
I find the contrast of people seeing MC win over Z compared to seeing Hasu win over Z extremely funny.

If MC wins he's the greatest player ever, when Hasu wins it's turtling till 4 bases and A-moving. Funny. :>
Jergen
Profile Joined October 2010
United States136 Posts
April 16 2011 21:35 GMT
#4517
On April 17 2011 06:34 Islandsnake wrote:
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On April 17 2011 06:34 Jergen wrote:
Wow, what the hell. 7 Hotels.com commercials in row? Seriously?


Ok its not just me then? T_T What the heck haha


Refreshing worked for me. But jeeez, that was obnoxious.
R3N
Profile Joined March 2011
740 Posts
April 16 2011 21:35 GMT
#4518
drops!
gj morrow!
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
April 16 2011 21:35 GMT
#4519
Fast lair and ventrals, I LOVE IT.
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
April 16 2011 21:35 GMT
#4520
hydras drop inc
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