EPTCome on dude, in the end you are getting paid by the viewers. Watching you throw away a game because you are nerdraging isn't fun to watch.
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Coolwhip
927 Posts
Come on dude, in the end you are getting paid by the viewers. Watching you throw away a game because you are nerdraging isn't fun to watch. | ||
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Lush
United States657 Posts
On April 13 2011 02:44 iNcontroL wrote: uhhhhhhhhhhh IdrA throws away 3-4 queens a few ovies and some drones vs a phoenix opening... has MC on the ropes but then stops attacking... IdrA gets 7 bl's and sticks his army in a choke spot and dies easily "PVZ IMBALANCED!" MC had 0 defenses at both his 3rd/4th. IdrA took a late 4th / never corrupted after killing the Collo in the first fight and didn't scout expansions. Late on infesters as well. Had he waited for infesters and massed some bl's while harrassing the expos with lings or something he'd be fine and that is ONLY after him NOT throwing 4 base of production into 2 collo (idra had corruptors out) and 5 stalkers... The thing that pisses me off the most though is that OK so you make a mistake at the end and it costs you the game.. why give up on game 2? You had him on the ropes like 3 separate times EVEN IF you want to argue "I can't win!" you at least came REALLY REALLY close vs the best fucking protoss on the planet... what more do you want? Give game 2 a try jesus While I respect you immensely as a player and what you do for the community, I gotta disagree with you a bit here. Well not disagree, as idra definitely played it wrong. But the correct play is still so difficult to pull off. I just feel as maybe you don't have a complete perspective on the matter Sure, he attack in a choke. Metal is basically a giant choke, there wasn't really any other options. He could've positioned a bit better, but I still think with MCs insane micro, it hard to idras to come out on top with those two army comps. Maybe you have played zerg and know how they feel late game, and I know you're worlds better than I'll ever be, but imo, zerg late game is incredibly difficult. Roachs get murdered by stalkers/collsus, as do hydras. If you kill of collosus with corruptors you have a dozen worthless units or 24 supply of shit (2 supply corruptor i think, im that bad that I don't know for sure) I do know what you're saying about game 2 though. It's possible to beat protoss, and he came really close. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On April 13 2011 02:47 1Eris1 wrote: Maybe you should actually play a game from a zergs perspective. I'm getting so tired of protoss players, pros or not, throwing their opinion around when they have never actually expierenced it His Zerg is really good and he definitely has experience | ||
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Rayansaki
Portugal1266 Posts
On April 13 2011 02:41 00Visor wrote: Very nice production. I hope MLG watches this. While it's true that DH production is flawless and is going as good as it can, let's not forget the massive difference in size. MLG is more prone to delays and lag because it's playing 50 times more matches at the same time. | ||
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DamnCats
United States1472 Posts
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GwSC
United States1997 Posts
On April 13 2011 02:52 WhiteDog wrote: The point is, IdrA made almost the entire mid game, attacking at the right time with superior force, high supply advantage. He was also the one taking the risk in early game taking a fast third, droning constantly and taking the damage against that air harassment. It's good to point out the weakness of IdrA's play, to point out what he could have done better, but come on, you know he was way better than MC in this game. Still deserved to lose the game. You can't downplay the significance of that mistake with the broodlords. Would people say a Protoss player still deserved to win if they separated 5 Colossi from their army next to a pile of corrupters and lost them? | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
first post should be read most often. try it. | ||
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SetStndbySmn
United States657 Posts
On April 13 2011 02:47 1Eris1 wrote: Maybe you should actually play a game from a zergs perspective. I'm getting so tired of protoss players, pros or not, throwing their opinion around when they have never actually expierenced it I've seen him play as zerg and coach zerg players before. He seemed to 'get it'. You probably have a super power that allows you to instantaneously know what people do with their time though, so you're most likely right. | ||
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ihavetofartosis
1277 Posts
On April 13 2011 02:47 Sqq wrote: MC had starports finished and would start cranking out Voidrays. IdrA was so far ahead in the first match but couldn't engange at all. Isn't something flawed when a race can stay so passive and so far behind economically and still win ? He lost his BLs fine, he would have lost with or without losing those. Storms, and collo vs 50% of his army ? What was he suppose to do. Yep, it's true. IdrA may have been ahead, but there's NO way he could have gone on the offensive with his hydras off creep, they are so slow forcefields would have destroyed him. I don't understand why people don't understand this. | ||
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FisHKinG
Netherlands89 Posts
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Hut
Norway77 Posts
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
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Sqq
Norway2023 Posts
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Hypatio
549 Posts
That would have been an even worse decision because he did not have creep extended on that side of the map. Blink stalkers are way better than hydras off creep so he would have had to go much harder on roach or waited longer in the game to get more brood lords. IdrA was playing well in the game because he kept the colossus count low, but hydras simply cannot do the job and lords are useless vs. blink stalkers without perfect positioning or high numbers. | ||
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Ryhn
United States509 Posts
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
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Samhax
1054 Posts
On April 13 2011 02:51 Dragar wrote: You don't recall Fruit sixpooling in the semi-finals then? I'm not talking about the 6 pool, i'm talking about his mindset. He act like he can't never win in ZvP, and then he tilt hard. Sorry but 6 pool in xnc is bad choice, there are many cheeses in this map way more effective (like roach/speedlings with low eco). He tilted in this game because of his mindset i can't win in normal game blabla let's throw away this game with a 6pool. | ||
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FarbrorAbavna
Sweden4856 Posts
On April 13 2011 02:50 Steamroller wrote: Funny, anyone else giving this kind of answers would get banned. it's the truth really, he's under contract and getting paid to play this game. It's a job and idra wasnt treating it as such in game2 on xelnaga if indeed it actually was out of spite that he cheesed. Imho I dont know what to say about him cheesing but whatever. | ||
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Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
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Gamgee
United States135 Posts
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