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joheinous
Profile Joined August 2010
Iceland522 Posts
April 12 2011 17:53 GMT
#6661
On April 13 2011 02:50 Steamroller wrote:
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On April 13 2011 02:45 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On April 13 2011 02:43 oo inflame oo wrote:
On April 13 2011 02:38 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
don't let idra be a fucking martyr. this is ridiculous. he gave up. i've done it. he's done it before. many other people have done it. he just gave up before it was over. he didn't prove any point. don't let him be a fucking zvp martyr.


what else is he supposed to do?

his job


Funny, anyone else giving this kind of answers would get banned.


which is why it's great that tyler takes the time to answer in LR threads. He's pretty much just saying what's on everybody's mind that aren't unreasonably biased towards idra/zerg. Thanks tyler^^

Hoping that sjow wins vs whitera, even though I'm a huge whitera fan but we've seen him vs. mc twice in a short time period now and would really like to see where sjow stands in regards to MC.
Everything is self-evident
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 12 2011 17:53 GMT
#6662
On April 13 2011 02:49 najreteip wrote:
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On April 13 2011 02:46 00Visor wrote:
On April 13 2011 02:43 Dragar wrote:
You're all really mistaken if you think that 6-pool wasn't planned before the matches. Idra is a tournament player; they have plenty of experience with going on tilt. They will and do plan their games beforehand. He was always going to 6-pool on Xel'Naga, win or lose the first game.


No way Idra actually has the plan to 6pool before a series starts. Especially on XelNaga.

He planned to 6pool Jinro in gsl

that's very different, we're talking about ZvP on a 2-player map. P is always going to scout at 9, that's not going to work. No one would ever plan a 6pool there.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Logo2010
Profile Joined October 2010
509 Posts
April 12 2011 17:53 GMT
#6663
On April 13 2011 02:49 Phyxx wrote:
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On April 13 2011 02:48 Logo2010 wrote:
What song is that now? Sounds like Sophie Ellis Bextor.

Armin Van Buuren - Not Giving Up On Love (feat. Sophie Ellis Bextor)

Thanks
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
April 12 2011 17:53 GMT
#6664
I hope that SjoW wins. I think his style is more suited to beat MC
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
April 12 2011 17:53 GMT
#6665
On April 13 2011 02:40 Ghanburighan wrote:
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On April 13 2011 02:38 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
don't let idra be a fucking martyr. this is ridiculous. he gave up. i've done it. he's done it before. many other people have done it. he just gave up before it was over. he didn't prove any point. don't let him be a fucking zvp martyr.


It's not the second game that martyr's him...

IdrA "rushed" the Spire and greater Spire so he didnt have time to upgrade armor for the Broodlords. This is bad against Stalkers with +3 attack upgrade and he kinda had to use the Broodlords right after they were done.

IdrA didnt really do any harrassing and most of the time the harrassing player wins. Taking down the 3rd base with an army isnt harrassing, warping in five Stalkers from a Warp Prism to take down Drones or using Phoenix / Void Ray to snipe Queens is ...

Metalopolis is always called a "map which is good for Zerg", but is it really good if you fight on the long lanes which are really drawn out chokepoints and which favor area attacks from Colossi and the use of Forcefields?

Just a few common sense reasons why it wasnt "Zerg being UP" which made IdrA lose the first game.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
April 12 2011 17:53 GMT
#6666
Would actually love to see Idra get some mental coaching. His mental condition really holds him back and affects his results. Less anger is needed T_T
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Hatorade
Profile Joined July 2010
299 Posts
April 12 2011 17:53 GMT
#6667
I just dont see how imbalance caused blink stalkers to beat broodlords and colossus/high templars to beat hydra? Why cant we just watch and enjoy the tournament, I felt like the metalopolis game was a fun back and forth game to watch. Seems like no one can win or lose anything these days without people crying.
Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
April 12 2011 17:53 GMT
#6668
I wish they would just start the next game so we could move on. :/
rO_Or
Profile Joined October 2010
United States306 Posts
April 12 2011 17:53 GMT
#6669
On April 13 2011 02:47 Warrice wrote:
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On April 13 2011 02:46 Dommk wrote:
On April 13 2011 02:43 Haberdasher wrote:
On April 13 2011 02:38 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
don't let idra be a fucking martyr. this is ridiculous. he gave up. i've done it. he's done it before. many other people have done it. he just gave up before it was over. he didn't prove any point. don't let him be a fucking zvp martyr.


U mad you're race is getting exposed as being OP while you still aren't getting tourney results???

Do you even know who you are talking to? During the entire time Protoss was considered underpowered last year, Nony didn't even complain ONE BIT, even in the STOG's, he was convinced that game wasn't developed and that is what he said to one of the questions in a STOG long ago, something about how Protoss need to figure out safer methods of playing

protoss was never considered underpowered


There was a short period where alot of protoss were complaining that gateway units were underpowered. Remember the constant complaints about stalker DPS? And then MC came along and showed all the noobs that gateway units are actually ridiculously strong.
On August 19 2011 00:04 Larryx wrote: The thing is that EU events are so much Difficultier than NA ones.
MMGVulture
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway6 Posts
April 12 2011 17:53 GMT
#6670
Oh no, not this song. OH THE NIGHTMARES
TYJ.Aoy
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil1265 Posts
April 12 2011 17:53 GMT
#6671
On April 13 2011 02:42 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
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On April 13 2011 02:40 ImHuko wrote:
On April 13 2011 02:38 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
don't let idra be a fucking martyr. this is ridiculous. he gave up. i've done it. he's done it before. many other people have done it. he just gave up before it was over. he didn't prove any point. don't let him be a fucking zvp martyr.

Only the protoss are arguing against it, he isn't a martyr, he literally can not win. Like I said before, MC said he will never lose to a zerg, unless they nerf. When the best protoss player literally says I like the nerfs because I want to win fairly, you have to believe it.

if you cant see how idra could have won game 1, you are lost

All I can see is the same situation happening over and over again in PVZ ( zergs losing from a 80 supply lead), and it doesn't matter if its mc or cruncher or jackdoane the surfist.
Scarmony
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany98 Posts
April 12 2011 17:53 GMT
#6672
On April 13 2011 02:52 ImHuko wrote:
How do you "throw away" queens when they are literally lifted up when they spawn? Come on protoss players, you just look silly. We can all agree that Idra made 1 huge mistake at the end that lost the game, but I think the problem some people have, you can't punish a protoss for making the same mistake. Idra stayed ahead of MC the entire game until HT came out... How is Idra supposed to win on Meta with the small chokes(Forcefield) and blink (for maybe drops)? You can't break a protoss with a 3 forcefield wide choke and collosus.


have you even seen the game? he ran them in one by one AND positioned one queen outside of the spore crawler range.

how could idra have won? put some pressure on mc, improve unit mix, dont become greedy with the bl's and position them more properly.
TURKISHRAMBO
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada148 Posts
April 12 2011 17:54 GMT
#6673
cant wait for SotG tonight now, rofl... idra and inc are going to go at it i havea feeling.
teacash
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada494 Posts
April 12 2011 17:54 GMT
#6674
guys Idra did not throw the bloody game..
He knew how difficult MC was, especially on Xel Naga, and took a chance at the 6-P

Stop saying he threw the game. Yeah his frustration and fatigue from the first game prolly contributed to his choosing to 6-P, but by no means did he throw the game.
Naga is bloody hard vs MC as zerg. no denying that. He took a chance and it failed
dutpotd
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada49 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 17:55:11
April 12 2011 17:54 GMT
#6675
On April 13 2011 02:50 Steamroller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 02:45 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On April 13 2011 02:43 oo inflame oo wrote:
On April 13 2011 02:38 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
don't let idra be a fucking martyr. this is ridiculous. he gave up. i've done it. he's done it before. many other people have done it. he just gave up before it was over. he didn't prove any point. don't let him be a fucking zvp martyr.


what else is he supposed to do?

his job


Funny, anyone else giving this kind of answers would get banned.


The funny thing is Idra must justify his attitude/behavior around his mental block vs. Toss based on the belief the game is imbalanced... If I'm Blizzard watching this, and had a balance patch/idea in mind, I'd delay just to continue to see Idra self-destruct granted it makes a good storyline for the competitive scene (see MLG, and now Dreamhack). I know I'd tune in 'just to see what Idra does this time', I don't of course - I tune in to cheer him and others on - but I know people who do.
“Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today.”
Kotschmonaut
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany117 Posts
April 12 2011 17:54 GMT
#6676
hey does any1 know if there are vods / replays of dreamhack ? and where to find them...

@ game : im really disappointed with idra. not because he lost to MC ( in a tenser game1 when it looked like in the final fight, just horrible micro by idra ), but because he is so faithless.
he repeatingly throws away games with stupid cheese, just to send stupid messages around, like : "omg see how imba Terran / Protoss is".

really really bad attitude. i liked the dude besides all his BM, but slowly he is turning me off.
you cant be pissed because of losing a single game vs the momentary best player in the world.
ZeraToss
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1094 Posts
April 12 2011 17:54 GMT
#6677
On April 13 2011 02:53 Beyonder wrote:
Would actually love to see Idra get some mental coaching. His mental condition really holds him back and affects his results. Less anger is needed T_T


i agree, he didnt lose to MC, but to himself....
"Personality should be irrelevant. This is a computer game tournament, not a dating show." EGIdrA on "introduce yourself and say something about your personality" Idra <3
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
April 12 2011 17:54 GMT
#6678
Bracket with flames and crowd in the background.. DH production is blowing anything I have seen from other SC2 tournaments away.. I even enjoy the breaks in between games..
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
relyt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1073 Posts
April 12 2011 17:54 GMT
#6679
On April 13 2011 02:53 DestroManiak wrote:
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will there be a white ra game soon?
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quoted posts are read more often

next game is white ra vs sjow.
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
April 12 2011 17:54 GMT
#6680
On April 13 2011 02:51 p1mp wrote:
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On April 13 2011 02:45 Euronyme wrote:
haha the naniwa interview is awesome.
'Why dya think there are so many good players in various games in sweden? it is because it's cold and we sit at home during the winter, playing games?"
"well, if that was the case norway would've been good to, but they're not. so.."
lol.


Thats cuz we're to busy having sex with teh ladiezz

You couldn't write that with your real profile? Really?
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