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gladsheim
Australia676 Posts
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EZmark
Canada31 Posts
I think the main concern I have with game one was the ease at which a 200 / 200 army can demolish a zerg army and completely end the game... even a fungal baneling drop which is APm intensive and difficult to execute properly doesnt do as much damage as a moving collosus and spamming T to storm... well completely negating all damage to the protoss army with force fields... If a zerg army does considerably damage to a Protoss or Terran army it doesnt end the game... a few cannons a couple warped in sentries or tanks behind walls make following up on a huge win pretty hard without possibly hurting yourself more... were as protoss, terran and even zerg in a mirror match win one big engagment on your side of the map and the games pretty much over since your re inenforcing from all over the map... Why do you think we see so many zerg just base trade late game ? Also a "good" protoss can defend against cute drops and nydus'... you all says omg be diverse... stop watching Spanisiwa stomp shitties on the ladder because it doesnt work like that at this level... Not sure why Tylers so angry... its clear as day that late game zerg is shit...and cant trade cost effectively with any other 200 200 army without extremely cute and mico intensive play all well hoping your oppenent isn't lookign at his army. | ||
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Karthane
United States1183 Posts
On April 13 2011 02:53 joheinous wrote: which is why it's great that tyler takes the time to answer in LR threads. He's pretty much just saying what's on everybody's mind that aren't unreasonably biased towards idra/zerg. Thanks tyler^^ Hoping that sjow wins vs whitera, even though I'm a huge whitera fan but we've seen him vs. mc twice in a short time period now and would really like to see where sjow stands in regards to MC. Did you ever stop to think that maybe the protosses are just as equally biased? What i don't understand is that when, for instance, Huk is interviewed about PvZ balance he always says "Well, i don't think it's imbalanced, but i do think Zerg is much harder to play and it's harder for zerg to win" Uhm...so basically you are saying it's imbalanced. | ||
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Scribble
2077 Posts
I guess everyone who cheeses now is just "throwing games away on purpose." | ||
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Lush
United States657 Posts
On April 13 2011 02:55 Shikyo wrote: His Zerg is really good and he definitely has experience Ah, my post is moot then. Incontrol does know how it feels lol | ||
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CptGrackSparrow
United States278 Posts
On April 13 2011 02:53 haffy wrote: How did Idra throw away game 2? Did he just quit when his 6 pool got scouted or something? My internet went down before it started ;/. he 6 pooled on xel'naga. i think thats something like a 5% success rate. especially when considering MC is up 1-0 and will somewhat be suspicious of cheese. if it were a different map (scrap station?) i'd be a little more forgiving of his choice. | ||
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buscemi
116 Posts
On April 13 2011 02:53 TYJ.Aoy wrote: All I can see is the same situation happening over and over again in PVZ ( zergs losing from a 80 supply lead), and it doesn't matter if its mc or cruncher or jackdoane the surfist. He lost from an 80 supply lead because he didn't do anything for the next three minutes. | ||
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epoc
Finland1190 Posts
On April 13 2011 02:53 FOUTWENTYSIXTY wrote: Whatever people might feel about racial imbalance it doesn't excuse a professional entertainer throwing his toys out of his pram at a paid event. If you went to a tennis match where someone was playing the world champion and he threw the last set you would ask for your money back and you'd be right to do so. Idra makes every other professional player look bad by not playing to his full ability. No he did not throw the game away. People are allowed to cheese. | ||
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Deception-35
United States113 Posts
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Endure
Canada287 Posts
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Frankon
3054 Posts
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BadWithNames
United States441 Posts
On April 13 2011 02:53 Beyonder wrote: Would actually love to see Idra get some mental coaching. His mental condition really holds him back and affects his results. Less anger is needed T_T IdrA wouldn't know what to do without anger. Less? Maybe. Redirection of it, definitely. | ||
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Toxi78
966 Posts
On April 13 2011 02:54 tdt wrote: Please ban the balance trolls who manage to screw up every LR thread. And team liquid should stop registration from spoof accounts too (gmail, hotmail etc..) real ISPs only so they don't come back. such a genius,i guess TL staff are gonna spend their next 6 months to identify all the ISPs on the planet, yes you're not alone on earth america. | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On April 13 2011 02:51 RavenCC wrote: You guys act like IdrA made a "stupid mistake that cost him the game." He didnt. Game was lost regardless of what happened to the brood lords, and anyone paying attention to the battle knows that. Tyler just keep on preachin', I'm sure you're gonna make lots of converts. If you're lucky the heavens will allow TL to get past the first round in the next tournament. Obvious troll is obvious. Don't start shitting on people, especially if they're one of the icons of the game, if you don't even have a counter argument. From what I saw (I'm in diamond so take it with a grain of salt) Idra could've won if he remaxed on roaches instead of hydras and just went fast for a bust. I don't think MC could've held it with nearly no sentries and no collosi. | ||
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Horse...falcon
United States1851 Posts
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
On April 13 2011 02:54 teacash wrote: guys Idra did not throw the bloody game.. He knew how difficult MC was, especially on Xel Naga, and took a chance at the 6-P Stop saying he threw the game. Yeah his frustration and fatigue from the first game prolly contributed to his choosing to 6-P, but by no means did he throw the game. Naga is bloody hard vs MC as zerg. no denying that. He took a chance and it failed It's throwing it against the fastest scouter in the planet. MC scouts after first probe | ||
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Aelfric
Turkey1496 Posts
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Gunman_csz
United Arab Emirates492 Posts
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Bibbit
Canada5377 Posts
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A Wet Shamwow
United States1590 Posts
On April 13 2011 02:50 xza wrote: this is so funny, zerg and terran players after seeing how Jinro and IdrA get both knocked out after literally owning the entire match are stating their point about imbalance, then here we see protoss 'idols' come out to defend and flaming everyone else who disagrees with them. No, there was a time where protoss couldnt win to save their lives, and i dont remember tyler complaining, and iNcontroll was just frustrated that his teammate threw away a series. Until someone plays a perfect game and losses, we cannot just give up and demand a patch. Yeah the collo death ball sucks, I am terran i understand, but we just have to find a way to beat it. | ||
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