EPT[GSL WC] Ro4 - Page 149
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rbx270j
Canada540 Posts
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zyzq
United States3123 Posts
On April 05 2011 21:23 HolyArrow wrote: Yeah. He's saying that MC changed it up after that game, but then MKP just did a really hard one-base push. ok sorry read that wrong | ||
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HeroMystic
United States1217 Posts
On April 05 2011 21:23 Zane wrote: He played 1-base in Game 5 too, then he tried to expand AND tech to collosi. I was really wondering why he was trying to do 2-base Colossi when he was so behind. Nevermind trying to push. | ||
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jellyjello
Korea (South)664 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
And as a T player, I actually learned something useful against protoss, this is to make 3 or 4 raxes very quickly, without reactor (the reactor just create a too big timing window for a 3 gate or 4 gating toss). This way you have a powerful early defense against nearly everything (need to see it against the MC's "sentry push" tho) Then you can add techlabs when you're stabilized. I will definitely copy that. | ||
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On April 05 2011 21:26 jellyjello wrote: MC is still a better player, but you can definitely tell that MC didn't practice much for this match. In every game he was reacting to what MKP did. Zealot + sentry combo was a terrible idea for MC, because MKP basically out-micro'd that very easily. If MC had prepared just a little, he would know that MKP's marine micro is one of the best. I agree that he likely got overconfident and didn't practice enough (probably thrown off by how MKP hasn't been performing too well lately in tournaments) but MC probably knows that MKP has godly marine micro. I mean, MKP's been known for that since Season 2. | ||
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Hokay
United States738 Posts
On April 05 2011 21:25 HeroMystic wrote: I was really wondering why he was trying to do 2-base Colossi when he was so behind. Nevermind trying to push. You need the splash damage to handle the incoming mass upgraded marine timing attack. The push with only 2 base while being behind was an awful decision though. | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
MVP beat San two games due to San's failed 4 gates (which were weird strats, considering san is better at late game macro). Game 2 on Shakuras, MVP did a VERY strong tank-marauder-marine-bunker push. But he didn't know san managed to power up hard on 2 bases (he got almost everything - zealots, stalkers, sentries, colossus, phoenixes) and because of that san managed to kill the push and from there was always ahead. It was basically siege tank marauder marine medivac vs gateway units, colossus, HT and occasional DTs and immortals for the rest of the game. Game 4, san got ahead very fast due to a DT rush and some battles going in his favor. In fact he was pretty far ahead, getting a better economy, tech and upgrades. But somehow or rather within 30 seconds, MVP marauder dropped to destroy templar archives, killed a lot of probes with hellions and then won a key battle with probably the most perfect micro ever, and san instantly gg-ed. (it's almost like an mixed martial arts where the guy who won was outwrestled by his opponent the whole match and within a couple of seconds he locks on an armbar for an instant tap out) | ||
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Vimsey
United Kingdom2235 Posts
On April 05 2011 21:25 HeroMystic wrote: I was really wondering why he was trying to do 2-base Colossi when he was so behind. Nevermind trying to push. He had already lost at that point he was lucky to have held at all. You cant pick apart his play as if it was a planned build after that. He isnt going to get back into the game by building gateway units and he already had colossus tech so its a no brainer. | ||
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
On April 05 2011 21:01 gregnog wrote: he didn't really show any breathtaking micro? or what did I miss? same stuff I see every decent terran do on a daily basis. i'm surprised by your godly understanding of the game. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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SilverLeagueElite
United States626 Posts
On April 05 2011 21:05 pdd wrote: Other moral of the story from today's games: All-In Strats never work: See San vs MVP Game 1 and 3, MKP vs MC Game 1,2,3,5 EDIT: Oh wait MKP v MC turned out in the favor of the all-inner. MKP v MC. The person who ended up doing the all-in strat got crushed. MKP started finding success when he starts going standard macro. I like this trend. | ||
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Piski
Finland3461 Posts
On April 05 2011 21:31 SilverLeagueElite wrote: MKP v MC. The person who ended up doing the all-in strat got crushed. MKP started finding success when he starts going standard macro. I like this trend. Didn't MKP win with a all-in in game 5? After MC went for 1gate expand :o | ||
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Vimsey
United Kingdom2235 Posts
On April 05 2011 21:29 MrCon wrote: And MKP could very well gain a lot of confidence from this, at least enough to fight MVP on equal ground. Not to mention TvT meta has evolved since the season 3 finals. MVP lost some TvT in recent GSTL against standard play, I'll give MKP a lot more chance this time. (but I still think MVP is the favorite) The team game is different where you dont know who you are going to play and the previous losing team choses the next map to being able to prepare for an opponent you know you are going to face. | ||
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SKYFISH_
Bulgaria990 Posts
I really want to check them out | ||
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Piski
Finland3461 Posts
On April 05 2011 21:32 SKYFISH_ wrote: Is there any way to get a hold of the replays from the last games from each set? I really want to check them out Replays no, VOD's yes. | ||
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Cramsy
Australia1100 Posts
On April 05 2011 21:32 SKYFISH_ wrote: Is there any way to get a hold of the replays from the last games from each set? I really want to check them out they should be up on GOM soon. I think the MVP ones are up already | ||
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ckast
175 Posts
he used to do some sentry heavy build to roll T and Z (i dont watch pvz so im not aware of it) | ||
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Grummler
Germany743 Posts
On April 05 2011 21:06 Brad wrote: After all the Protoss drama, we have a TvT finals. The irony. I will lmao if MKP gets 2nd again =D. Could be possible, MVPs TvT is pretty strong. @TvT finals: we had 2 Zerg GSL Champions while everyone cried "T op!", so i guess having a Terran champion while "P op!" makes sense, somehow. | ||
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