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[MLG] Dallas Day 2 - Page 556
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loveeholicce
Korea (South)785 Posts
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
Group A 1st - ROOT.KiWiKakI 4-0 2nd - EG.IdrA 2-2 (tiebreaker: 5-4 matches) 3rd - aTn.Socke 2-2 (tiebreaker: head-to-head over Liquid'HuK) 4th - Liquid'HuK 2-2 5th - Fnatics.Gretorp 0-4 Group B 1st - dignitas.Select 4-0 2nd - dignitas.SjoW 3-1 3rd - Liquid'Ret 1-3 (tiebreak: 5-6 matches) 4th - Liquid'HayprO 1-3 (tiebreak: head-to-head over FXOqxc) 5th - FXOqxc 1-3 Group C 1st - EG.iNcontroL 3-1 (tiebreak: head-to-head over ROOT.SLush) 2nd - ROOT.SLush 3-1 3rd - Liquid'TLO 2-2 4th - sixjax.Mihai 1-3 (tiebreak: head-to-head over LG.Painuser) 5th - LG.Painuser 1-3 Group D 1st - dignitas.NaNiwa 4-0 2nd - ROOT.drewbie 3-1 3rd - EG.Machine 1-3 (tiebreak: 5-6 matches) 4th - Liquid'Tyler 1-3 (tiebreak: head-to-head over LG.Agh) 5th - LG.Agh 1-3 | ||
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Kettchup
United States1911 Posts
On April 03 2011 14:35 Dingobloo wrote: Also Painuser, but fair point, the number 1 seed from the open going into the hardest group was an interesting choice. He lost to Painuser as far as I'm aware, so I didn't mention him. And I could see that reasoning about the group being "easier" if there wasn't such a massive advantage in getting first place in group play. Clearly the easiest group to get first place in would be the #4/5 seed group. | ||
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
On April 03 2011 14:33 Nosey wrote: For anyone not already privy to the juicy part of G3 Idra vs. Huk.... ![[image loading]](http://i56.tinypic.com/2upcxo7.jpg) Thank you for posting that. | ||
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Loophole
United States867 Posts
On April 03 2011 14:08 mcjinzo wrote: ive said this before but seriously think about how much internet is being used at any given time during this event? between the streams with hundreds huuundreds of thousands of viewers and all the games playing online and the thooousaaands of people at the place using wifi and whatnot how can you really blame them for lag. seriously just think about it for 5 seconds.... So you're take is that there are a lot of people using the connection, so it's not possible to set up a network to handle it? Gosh, I guess we should all just pack it up and forget about holding events... So you realize all these people will be using bandwidth. MLG should be doing the same thing. If you can sense the scale of the bandwidth needed for the event by turning the gears in your head for a mere 5 seconds, they can too. They have people who's job it is to consider these same things, and others to put infrastructure in place to handle it. If someone throws a party where they expect 2,000 people, and they rent a 10' x 10' room to throw it in, would you excuse them by saying, "Well, it's really not their fault. I mean, there's so many people!" And if they didn't expect 2,000 people, they obviously made a mistake in estimating their audience, which is still something they're responsible for. In the end it really doesn't matter if the problem was on the ISP's end or within MLG's network. MLG is responsible for providing a venue capable of hosting the event. That's their job. That's what they get paid for. They messed up. Hopefully they will learn from that and improve, but as many people have pointed out, it's hard to believe that will happen when each event seems to have more problems than the one before it, to the point where this one was an unmitigated disaster. | ||
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durbarak
Austria54 Posts
On April 03 2011 14:35 Dingobloo wrote: Also Painuser, but fair point, the number 1 seed from the open going into the hardest group was an interesting choice. There is no hardest group, they are all the same, because MLG seeded the top 16. Just sum up all the seeds and you see. It's 34 for every group. | ||
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EddieStyle
Italy19 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9021 Posts
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cooked
China1238 Posts
On April 03 2011 14:43 Primadog wrote: Group Play Final Standings Group A 1st - ROOT.KiWiKakI 4-0 2nd - EG.IdrA 2-2 (tiebreaker: 5-4 matches) 3rd - aTn.Socke 2-2 (tiebreaker: head-to-head over Liquid'HuK) 4th - Liquid'HuK 2-2 5th - Fnatics.Gretorp 0-4 Does the "5-4 matches" mean that Idra had the best record in games won out of the three who went 2-2? Or how did the tiebreaker work? | ||
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AkaHenchway
United States41 Posts
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NEcropath
United States223 Posts
On April 03 2011 14:50 EddieStyle wrote: What happened in the second match Huk - Idra? Replay isnt there LoL IdrA quit out immediately when he saw 7 Void Rays when his army was almost entirely Brood Lord/Infestor. He was on 3-4 bases to HuK's last mining base, had a higher Worker count, better econ, and a larger army. The Void rays were Hallucinations. | ||
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Gatsbi
United States1134 Posts
On April 03 2011 14:51 AkaHenchway wrote: You are all the biggest fucking nits ever seriously get over it. Get over what exactly? Also, you'll probably get banned for saying stupid crap like that. | ||
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00Visor
4337 Posts
On April 03 2011 14:43 Primadog wrote: Group Play Final Standings Group A 1st - ROOT.KiWiKakI 4-0 2nd - EG.IdrA 2-2 (tiebreaker: 5-4 matches) 3rd - aTn.Socke 2-2 (tiebreaker: head-to-head over Liquid'HuK) 4th - Liquid'HuK 2-2 5th - Fnatics.Gretorp 0-4 Group B 1st - dignitas.Select 4-0 2nd - dignitas.SjoW 3-1 3rd - Liquid'Ret 1-3 (tiebreak: 5-6 matches) 4th - Liquid'HayprO 1-3 (tiebreak: head-to-head over FXOqxc) 5th - FXOqxc 1-3 Group C 1st - EG.iNcontroL 3-1 (tiebreak: head-to-head over ROOT.SLush) 2nd - ROOT.SLush 3-1 3rd - Liquid'TLO 2-2 4th - sixjax.Mihai 1-3 (tiebreak: head-to-head over LG.Painuser) 5th - LG.Painuser 1-3 Group D 1st - dignitas.NaNiwa 4-0 2nd - ROOT.drewbie 3-1 3rd - EG.Machine 1-3 (tiebreak: 5-6 matches) 4th - Liquid'Tyler 1-3 (tiebreak: head-to-head over LG.Agh) 5th - LG.Agh 1-3 Interesting to see all 1st/2nd places taken by dignitas, ROOT and EG. Only player left from these teams is Machine: 3rd. | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
On April 03 2011 14:36 Souai wrote: So the loser's bracket right now looks like this? Sheth fights qxc -> Huk -> Haypro -> Idra Vibe fights PainUser -> Tyler -> TLO -> drewbie Moonan fights Agh -> Mihai -> Machine -> Slush Optikzero fights Gretorp -> Ret -> Socke -> SjoW Liquid gets one more than the minimum possible teamkill with five players down here, and we get the chance of a Huk v Idra rematch? Hopefully I sorted everything correctly, looks to be interesting. LOL... compare the sheth path and the moonan path... I feel sorry for one group of players... | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
Hindsight is always 20:20. Applaud yourselves for being so smartass and condescending toward the organizers of an event that's trying to embrace the game you all love. </3 TL | ||
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Snaphoo
United States614 Posts
On April 03 2011 14:49 Loophole wrote: + Show Spoiler + On April 03 2011 14:08 mcjinzo wrote: ive said this before but seriously think about how much internet is being used at any given time during this event? between the streams with hundreds huuundreds of thousands of viewers and all the games playing online and the thooousaaands of people at the place using wifi and whatnot how can you really blame them for lag. seriously just think about it for 5 seconds.... So you're take is that there are a lot of people using the connection, so it's not possible to set up a network to handle it? Gosh, I guess we should all just pack it up and forget about holding events... So you realize all these people will be using bandwidth. MLG should be doing the same thing. If you can sense the scale of the bandwidth needed for the event by turning the gears in your head for a mere 5 seconds, they can too. They have people who's job it is to consider these same things, and others to put infrastructure in place to handle it. If someone throws a party where they expect 2,000 people, and they rent a 10' x 10' room to throw it in, would you excuse them by saying, "Well, it's really not their fault. I mean, there's so many people!" And if they didn't expect 2,000 people, they obviously made a mistake in estimating their audience, which is still something they're responsible for. In the end it really doesn't matter if the problem was on the ISP's end or within MLG's network. I definitely sympathize that MLG of course was trying to make this event run as smoothly as possible, and that a lot of the stuff going on behind the scenes might make us realize that it wasn't necessarily their fault. That being said, they charge a good deal of money and have attracted a lot of sponsors in order to put on a first-class event-- and in that, they fell significantly short. Period. This really reflects negatively on e-sports in North America. I'm sure I'm not the only one that is totally unwilling to pay for a $25 NASL pass until we've seen what kind of product they are offering, given the disaster of this weekend. I'm excited that NASL will be pre-recorded and that they've partnered with Justin.tv, precisely because that shows some of the foresight that MLG clearly hasn't embraced. How delighted is Dr. Pepper or Stride to see this kind of amateur execution? I really think MLG has let the community down in this regard, and set e-Sports back a little bit with regard to being taken seriously. Hopefully Sunday goes smoothly and future MLG events go better... but that starts with them acknowledging the problems for this weekend and fixing them It's not just forum rage; they really dropped the ball and need to acknowledge that in going forward. | ||
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EddieStyle
Italy19 Posts
On April 03 2011 14:52 NEcropath wrote: IdrA quit out immediately when he saw 7 Void Rays when his army was almost entirely Brood Lord/Infestor. He was on 3-4 bases to HuK's last mining base, had a higher Worker count, better econ, and a larger army. The Void rays were Hallucinations. ROFL epic, poor Idra :/ that didnt change anything i guess since he still placed 2nd anyway eheh funny tho, thank you Idra for keeping entertain us  | ||
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Souai
United States47 Posts
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Thrax
Canada1755 Posts
On April 03 2011 14:36 Souai wrote: So the loser's bracket right now looks like this? Sheth fights qxc -> Huk -> Haypro -> Idra Vibe fights PainUser -> Tyler -> TLO -> drewbie Moonan fights Agh -> Mihai -> Machine -> Slush Optikzero fights Gretorp -> Ret -> Socke -> SjoW Liquid gets one more than the minimum possible teamkill with five players down here, and we get the chance of a Huk v Idra rematch? Hopefully I sorted everything correctly, looks to be interesting. The brackets just got updated with the pool players: http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-dallas-starcraft2-champ.html# It's actually: Sheth fights qxc -> Huk -> Ret -> Idra (I'm lazy check the link for the others)  on the Winners bracket side, we have IncontroL vs Select and Naniwa vs Kiwikaki | ||
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Teejing
Germany1360 Posts
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