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Brandish
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 06:00:19
April 03 2011 06:00 GMT
#11121
a chance for idra huk rematch?

idra is hoping that ret or qxc/sheth can beat huk now :o
oriox
Profile Joined February 2011
United States240 Posts
April 03 2011 06:00 GMT
#11122
On April 03 2011 14:54 yamato77 wrote:
I wish I didn't read this site sometimes. Despite the issues for the stream, I really enjoyed being at the venue today. But reading this thread (and other whines) makes me want to never post here again because of how everyone jumps on the same bandwagon of complaining and criticism for something that was out of MLG's control at the time.

Hindsight is always 20:20. Applaud yourselves for being so smartass and condescending toward the organizers of an event that's trying to embrace the game you all love.

</3 TL


Are you really that dense? They took people's money and didn't provide the service for it. Not only that but all streams were dead. Then they said no refunds. It took everyone's complaining to get them to offer refunds and free passes at the next event.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
durbarak
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria54 Posts
April 03 2011 06:00 GMT
#11123
On April 03 2011 14:51 tones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 14:43 Primadog wrote:
Group Play Final Standings

Group A
1st - ROOT.KiWiKakI 4-0
2nd - EG.IdrA 2-2 (tiebreaker: 5-4 matches)
3rd - aTn.Socke 2-2 (tiebreaker: head-to-head over Liquid'HuK)
4th - Liquid'HuK 2-2
5th - Fnatics.Gretorp 0-4



Does the "5-4 matches" mean that Idra had the best record in games won out of the three who went 2-2? Or how did the tiebreaker work?


5-4 is the mapscore, "matches" is missleading.
"Oh, I see sth." "What did he build?" "He built a CIRCLE!"
Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
April 03 2011 06:00 GMT
#11124
On April 03 2011 14:59 Teejing wrote:
well well, what is up with liquid lately? Bad results have now been kinda too consistent to blame just bad luck.


tournament isnt over quite yet
Disciple....Top 3 control in Clarion County
SuperStyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States976 Posts
April 03 2011 06:01 GMT
#11125
On April 03 2011 14:11 Asparagus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 14:06 1Eris1 wrote:
Why are people ripping on Naniwa? He's been pretty much the strongest macro Protoss outside of Korea for sometime now. (balance aside, he's beaten ret, morrow, idra, every top terran, every top protoss etc)
4 gating someone worse then you>playing a 50 minute game vs someone worse then you. Especially if you have to play like 20 games


the point I'm trying to make, is that it's funny that the game can give you the option "well instead of outplaying them just hit them with a 4 gate" (clearly shown pvp where you have to 4gate better than your opponent to win) when I see what people are typing in response or in his defense (i'm not hating) the message i'm getting is "oh wow really that's he has to do?" I'm sure his opponents aren't ridiculously horrible, they qualified for this tournament, they had their share of 4gates as well, but when people are very skilled, it's pretty disappointing when i see someone at 4gating with 22 consecutive wins all 4gates.

imagine if i could have 90% success rate with 2rax, or 7rr.

oh i like this gem "4 gating someone worse then you>playing a 50 minute game vs someone worse then you. "

you'd hate to play zerg, my friend.



See,that is where u are wrong. Most top people do that in tournaments where they have to play like 10 rounds,iv seen Dimaga countless times 6 pooling in first rounds of tournaments,ive seen Nightend and Whitera cannon rush,Strelok proxy rax, and so on...

Yes Naniwa is on that level of play that he can effectively 4gate someone whos not a top player,and he had to play 10 rounds or so just to finish open bracket and group stage, playing all those matches in a long macro games would have exhausted him.

He is probable the most complete Protoss,dare i say player, outside of Korea atm and u shouldnt hold a grudge if he doesnt want to play with some diamond-low masters players for 30 mins.
Lets not forget how Incontrol got passed his group and TLO for that matter,maybe u should bash him and not Nani.
Its not like MC plays 30 mins macro games with bad opponents,no he roflstomps them in under 10 mins.
AmishNukes
Profile Joined May 2010
United States98 Posts
April 03 2011 06:03 GMT
#11126
On April 03 2011 14:45 MrMotionPicture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 14:33 Nosey wrote:
For anyone not already privy to the juicy part of G3 Idra vs. Huk....

[image loading]

Thank you for posting that.

if Huk beats the winner of qxc/sheth and ret in his next two games he'll play Idra again, lol
Brandish
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States339 Posts
April 03 2011 06:03 GMT
#11127
On April 03 2011 15:01 SuperStyle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 14:11 Asparagus wrote:
On April 03 2011 14:06 1Eris1 wrote:
Why are people ripping on Naniwa? He's been pretty much the strongest macro Protoss outside of Korea for sometime now. (balance aside, he's beaten ret, morrow, idra, every top terran, every top protoss etc)
4 gating someone worse then you>playing a 50 minute game vs someone worse then you. Especially if you have to play like 20 games


the point I'm trying to make, is that it's funny that the game can give you the option "well instead of outplaying them just hit them with a 4 gate" (clearly shown pvp where you have to 4gate better than your opponent to win) when I see what people are typing in response or in his defense (i'm not hating) the message i'm getting is "oh wow really that's he has to do?" I'm sure his opponents aren't ridiculously horrible, they qualified for this tournament, they had their share of 4gates as well, but when people are very skilled, it's pretty disappointing when i see someone at 4gating with 22 consecutive wins all 4gates.

imagine if i could have 90% success rate with 2rax, or 7rr.

oh i like this gem "4 gating someone worse then you>playing a 50 minute game vs someone worse then you. "

you'd hate to play zerg, my friend.



See,that is where u are wrong. Most top people do that in tournaments where they have to play like 10 rounds,iv seen Dimaga countless times 6 pooling in first rounds of tournaments,ive seen Nightend and Whitera cannon rush,Strelok proxy rax, and so on...

Yes Naniwa is on that level of play that he can effectively 4gate someone whos not a top player,and he had to play 10 rounds or so just to finish open bracket and group stage, playing all those matches in a long macro games would have exhausted him.

He is probable the most complete Protoss,dare i say player, outside of Korea atm and u shouldnt hold a grudge if he doesnt want to play with some diamond-low masters players for 30 mins.
Lets not forget how Incontrol got passed his group and TLO for that matter,maybe u should bash him and not Nani.
Its not like MC plays 30 mins macro games with bad opponents,no he roflstomps them in under 10 mins.


hes right, and the key is, if they were good enough, the opponent wouldn't die to a 4-gate in the first place
Logginurkeyz
Profile Joined September 2010
United States375 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 06:06:24
April 03 2011 06:04 GMT
#11128
On April 03 2011 14:43 Primadog wrote:
Group Play Final Standings
+ Show Spoiler +

Group A
1st - ROOT.KiWiKakI 4-0
2nd - EG.IdrA 2-2 (tiebreaker: 5-4 matches)
3rd - aTn.Socke 2-2 (tiebreaker: head-to-head over Liquid'HuK)
4th - Liquid'HuK 2-2
5th - Fnatics.Gretorp 0-4

Group B
1st - dignitas.Select 4-0
2nd - dignitas.SjoW 3-1
3rd - Liquid'Ret 1-3 (tiebreak: 5-6 matches)
4th - Liquid'HayprO 1-3 (tiebreak: head-to-head over FXOqxc)
5th - FXOqxc 1-3

Group C
1st - EG.iNcontroL 3-1 (tiebreak: head-to-head over ROOT.SLush)
2nd - ROOT.SLush 3-1
3rd - Liquid'TLO 2-2
4th - sixjax.Mihai 1-3 (tiebreak: head-to-head over LG.Painuser)
5th - LG.Painuser 1-3

Group D
1st - dignitas.NaNiwa 4-0
2nd - ROOT.drewbie 3-1
3rd - EG.Machine 1-3 (tiebreak: 5-6 matches)
4th - Liquid'Tyler 1-3 (tiebreak: head-to-head over LG.Agh)
5th - LG.Agh 1-3



wow- qxc got the shaft! the MLG chick originally wrote on the whiteboard that ret was 5th and qxc was 4th-- she even double checked it on her computer... (i was standing right there when she did this)
then again, what is possibly 2 more games to qxc? ((i'm not saying this to hate on qxc, but because i was standing there and watched his interview with CSN))

edit: ps- @ffdestiny- the post i made earlier was basically me quoting the dude standing above me when we had this conversation... ((i was the one sitting with the blue shirt))
Jemag... Jemag... you're like an alcoholic telling me why you drink... you have your reasons, but it's still bad... <3 iNcontroL
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
April 03 2011 06:05 GMT
#11129
I just checked the brackets and realized Select's playing Incontrol.

Haha. Grudge match.

(seriously though, Select should win. I think he's a much better player than incontrol... but we've seen so many upsets, I'm not going to make a prediction on it.)

PS: Those dignitas guys are really ripping the tournament apart. Select and Nani going 4-0, and Sjow going 3-1 (losing to Select). Could we see a 1-2-3 performance by them?
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Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
April 03 2011 06:07 GMT
#11130
On April 03 2011 15:00 Brandish wrote:
a chance for idra huk rematch?

idra is hoping that ret or qxc/sheth can beat huk now :o


I think he would be pretty damn happy with the run. Its either some zergs which he would be confident in beating. Or Qcx/Huk where he's had consistent success against. Oh and yes i know the result for his series against Huk today but he showed he can still beat him quite comfortably. That game 2 was very weired :D
Souai
Profile Joined December 2010
United States47 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 06:13:59
April 03 2011 06:07 GMT
#11131
Did qxc take a game off of SjoW? For some reason I thought haypro would tiebreak favorably with qxc given his 2-0 over him and Ret giving an extra loss to qxc.

Edit: Ok I sorted it out in my head, the mlg brackets are right, for some reason I pegged haypro as 3rd and ret as 4th when writing out my estimated bracket earlier.
omnikaush
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States49 Posts
April 03 2011 06:09 GMT
#11132

On April 03 2011 14:29 Kettchup wrote:
Also, this tournament system is horrible. It's hilarious that Incontrol has a top 6 spot locked up by beating Slush, Mihai and an absolutely-terrible-playing-TLO.


Slush is an extremely good zerg, definitely ROOT's best zerg and one of NA's best zergs. He is no pushover.

Mihai is also quite good. He did fight through the Open Bracket, and he took down dde, who is probably the most underrated terran in NA.

TLO has been slumping, but that is not Incontrol's fault. Incontrol did what he had to do to take the series...

I wouldn't hate on Incontrol. His opponents were pretty skilled.

incontrol fighting!
HongUn Prime is awesome. Don't listen to Artosis. HUP is a sick nerd baller. Results speak for themselves!
bLuR
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada625 Posts
April 03 2011 06:10 GMT
#11133
im not understanding any of this.. i wish they would have a simple bracket (
pieman819
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia457 Posts
April 03 2011 06:10 GMT
#11134
On April 03 2011 14:54 yamato77 wrote:
I wish I didn't read this site sometimes. Despite the issues for the stream, I really enjoyed being at the venue today. But reading this thread (and other whines) makes me want to never post here again because of how everyone jumps on the same bandwagon of complaining and criticism for something that was out of MLG's control at the time.

Hindsight is always 20:20. Applaud yourselves for being so smartass and condescending toward the organizers of an event that's trying to embrace the game you all love.

</3 TL

The whining is completely justified imo, MLG has a history of terrible streaming problems. They failed again on the first day, the other times i've seen they got their shit together for the second and subsequent days (that finals misshap the only exception) but today was even worse. There was a total of half of one series and half of a game of another seriesthat were live games streamed today. The only thing else we got was one and two thirds of another series cast via replay. This was over what 10 hours or something?
Hi
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
April 03 2011 06:10 GMT
#11135
On April 03 2011 15:03 AmishNukes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 14:45 MrMotionPicture wrote:
On April 03 2011 14:33 Nosey wrote:
For anyone not already privy to the juicy part of G3 Idra vs. Huk....

[image loading]

Thank you for posting that.

if Huk beats the winner of qxc/sheth and ret in his next two games he'll play Idra again, lol

Oh god, the drama. But I'm guessing qxc wins, so beating qxc and then Ret is probably one of the hardest things he could possibly have to do, both great players.

Would i just be dreaming if i was hoping for the stream to be working tomorrow? We're probably going to miss 90% of the games again.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
April 03 2011 06:10 GMT
#11136
On April 03 2011 14:52 NEcropath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 14:50 EddieStyle wrote:
What happened in the second match Huk - Idra? Replay isnt there LoL

IdrA quit out immediately when he saw 7 Void Rays when his army was almost entirely Brood Lord/Infestor. He was on 3-4 bases to HuK's last mining base, had a higher Worker count, better econ, and a larger army. The Void rays were Hallucinations.

LOL Idra out rage quitted himself
MC for president
MeyerA
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Sweden122 Posts
April 03 2011 06:11 GMT
#11137
Can you find replays anywhere?
Logginurkeyz
Profile Joined September 2010
United States375 Posts
April 03 2011 06:13 GMT
#11138
On April 03 2011 15:05 pdd wrote:
PS: Those dignitas guys are really ripping the tournament apart. Select and Nani going 4-0, and Sjow going 3-1 (losing to Select). Could we see a 1-2-3 performance by them?


dude, nani was a fuckin beast with the way he played today... as hard as it is to say this- i thought his games against tyler were brilliant ((sorry, tyler!))

i talked to sjow earlier in the day, and tried to say i enjoyed his games- but he was still obsessing over his loss to select on the main stage yesterday... i felt kinda bad, but i jus said to him, 'dude- you played on the main stage in front of the entire world- that's impressive enough!' and he says back to me, 'yeah, it's not that big a deal. it used to bother me, but now it doesn't bother me at all...' Sjow is a baller. Select is also really intimidating to me, for whatever reason- i haven't gotten the opportunity to talk to him yet, but i don't rightly know what i'd even say to him... 'good games, dude! how does it feel to be dominating MLG again?' something tells me that would come out sounding sarcastic to him...
Jemag... Jemag... you're like an alcoholic telling me why you drink... you have your reasons, but it's still bad... <3 iNcontroL
BluePabs
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
April 03 2011 06:15 GMT
#11139
i love how the live blog says something akin to tune in tomorrow at 10 am CT! Soo I'm going to wake up around 10 and tune in around 11 with how much that person has been lying to me.

I really think every time that person has said something about the time when the stream will return it has been 100% wrong. The first night with constant 15 minute warnings, today with hour late on the 545 start return time. Here's to hoping it'll happen this time.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
April 03 2011 06:15 GMT
#11140
On April 03 2011 15:11 MeyerA wrote:
Can you find replays anywhere?

quite hard to find.

as you can imagine the MLG people are busy sorting out more important issues, atm replays are the least of their worries. Theyll be easily findable after the tourny is over
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