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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
March 29 2011 19:55 GMT
#9021
wow it was that close? that's awesome :D
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
March 29 2011 19:57 GMT
#9022
On March 30 2011 04:45 sadyque wrote:
How does lan help if some idiot steps on the cable? Its not like the connection to the server dropped cuz then every1 would be out of the game(all on the same network at gom...). It was just MPV so it has NOTHING to do with Battle net...


Your logic is not appreciated. Battle.net 2.0 is the enemy we want LAN! Raaaawwwwrrr

Select even said himself since the newest patch SC2 has been crashing on him every 20 games or so. Could be new bug.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 29 2011 19:58 GMT
#9023
I'm actually really so proud of our foreigners. I mean, for the longest time there has been an iron grip on the Starcraft Proscene, an iron grip that is supported by the glove of everyone here who said that the Koreans were "untouchable." Hell, we saw White Ra OUTPLAY MC. Sure it was PvP, but how can you explain Dimaga vs MVP(showing that Dimaga can match with even the best), or Sen vs Marineking Prime?

Not to mention this was the BEST of the BEST for the Koreans and only the best we could muster at the time for the allstars. I mean, the only person from Korea who I felt shouldn't have been there was Anypro, but really there weren't any other "superb" options either. But think about who was on the Foreigner team. While definitely some of the VERY best we have, I would've subbed out a couple.

Morrow for Idra
Moonglade for Socke
Huk for QXC(sorry Huk)

Stiluz
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway688 Posts
March 29 2011 19:59 GMT
#9024
This was an amazing tournament! The non-Korean players really stepped up to the plate and outplayed a lot of the Koreans! Absolutely fantastic performance of both teams. Even though they lost, it was only with a single game, and in a way, like Artosis said, this felt like a victory. Big props to Sen and Dimaga smashing faces, and Whitera to simply outplaying the arguably best player in the world right now!
CookieMaker
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada880 Posts
March 29 2011 19:59 GMT
#9025
On March 30 2011 04:49 Staboteur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 04:42 Joementum wrote:
White-Ras PvP was sick. Who said Warp Prisms were useless?


The 99.97% of the world that doesn't have godlike micro say warp prisms are useless :D


When he got the observer out first me and everyone I was watching it with was like "WTF are you DOING GET A DAMN IMMO!!" ....then he got the warp prism as well and i was just dumbfounded. I think he totally metagamed MC because if MC had gone for a standard, fast korean 4gate he woulda been in whitera's base like 20 seconds earlier and whitera would never have held it, but lately MC has been doing these "larger than life" strats where he throws in something awkward like the twilight council that game. Mc pushed out before blink was done and it gave whitera time to chrono enough sentries and immos to hold.
Micro your Macro
TheGrimace
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States929 Posts
March 29 2011 19:59 GMT
#9026
On March 30 2011 04:45 sadyque wrote:
How does lan help if some idiot steps on the cable? Its not like the connection to the server dropped cuz then every1 would be out of the game(all on the same network at gom...). It was just MPV so it has NOTHING to do with Battle net...

An issue only affecting one player could still be battlenet. I've held LANs (if you can call them that) with games that require persistent connections, and periodically some players have issues. In Team Fortress 2, different people in the same room on the same connection have lost their ability to edit their loadouts. They are still in game, so the connection is working, but the server on Valve's end is mishandling certain clients. Weird things happen when you involve large networks and lots of equipment. Just because it didn't affect everyone doesn't mean it wasn't B.net's fault. But it is always more consistent to have a game running through LAN than through another server. Always.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
March 29 2011 20:00 GMT
#9027
On March 30 2011 04:34 proxY_ wrote:
The foreigner's mistake was not putting Dimaga in immediately against July, I don't understand what the thought process was in putting everyone but the guy with great zvz against the guy that's been shown to have subpar zvz in his televised matches in the past. It's not like they messed that up once, they wasted Huk, Moonglade, and then Jinro before Dimaga? Plus you should reserve a toss to play MVP because of his bad showings against P lately and Nestea and MVP are both very strong vs Z. I don't understand the thought process.

I realize this is armchair quarterbacking but honestly it just seems so obvious. Watching the vods I was shocked when they put Huk in. What did they know that we don't.

MVP vs Dimaga dropping near the climax of one of the most epic games in memory is an absolute disgrace. Blizzard should be ashamed but that's been said before and nothing is going to change.


Dimaga as anchor obviously ended up being a great decision

I'd lay more blame on the players not being able to rise to July's level than Artosis's player selection.

Huk kept letting zerglings eat up his Sentry numbers and defended with poorly placed forcefields.

Jinro just got rolled over by July. July clearly outplayed him. I'm surprised at how badly Jinro got rolled over.

moonglade's ZvZ just looked really mediocre against July, but then sending out moonglade is dependent on who Artosis thinks will be the Korean's ace.

if it's Nestea, then perhaps Artosis considers Dimaga's ZvZ to be better than moonglade's and wants to save Dimaga for last. if it's MVP, then maybe Artosis would want to save moonglade as a ZvT sniper but Artosis might have also thought that Dimaga's ZvT style of ling/infestor/ultralisk might be unexpected and throw MVP off.
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
March 29 2011 20:03 GMT
#9028
On March 30 2011 04:58 Pandain wrote:
I'm actually really so proud of our foreigners. I mean, for the longest time there has been an iron grip on the Starcraft Proscene, an iron grip that is supported by the glove of everyone here who said that the Koreans were "untouchable." Hell, we saw White Ra OUTPLAY MC. Sure it was PvP, but how can you explain Dimaga vs MVP(showing that Dimaga can match with even the best), or Sen vs Marineking Prime?

Not to mention this was the BEST of the BEST for the Koreans and only the best we could muster at the time for the allstars. I mean, the only person from Korea who I felt shouldn't have been there was Anypro, but really there weren't any other "superb" options either. But think about who was on the Foreigner team. While definitely some of the VERY best we have, I would've subbed out a couple.

Morrow for Idra
Moonglade for Socke
Huk for QXC(sorry Huk)



The Foreign line up needed more terrans. Who would have been sweet to have would have been Mondragon after his sweet TSL play.
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Domination
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1177 Posts
March 29 2011 20:05 GMT
#9029
On March 30 2011 04:59 CookieMaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 04:49 Staboteur wrote:
On March 30 2011 04:42 Joementum wrote:
White-Ras PvP was sick. Who said Warp Prisms were useless?


The 99.97% of the world that doesn't have godlike micro say warp prisms are useless :D


When he got the observer out first me and everyone I was watching it with was like "WTF are you DOING GET A DAMN IMMO!!" ....then he got the warp prism as well and i was just dumbfounded. I think he totally metagamed MC because if MC had gone for a standard, fast korean 4gate he woulda been in whitera's base like 20 seconds earlier and whitera would never have held it, but lately MC has been doing these "larger than life" strats where he throws in something awkward like the twilight council that game. Mc pushed out before blink was done and it gave whitera time to chrono enough sentries and immos to hold.

MC was going 4gate but got cold feet once white-ra moved out with his units to the watchtower where MC's units were. MC probably thought White-Ra was 4gating as well, which means that it would have been a disaster if MC tried to force his way in. However, White-Ra wasn't 4-gating so the result was what you saw.
Peekaboo
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 20:06:59
March 29 2011 20:06 GMT
#9030
Congratulations to the foreign team. Some really clutch performances in there. Special kudos to Whitera for not only having the balls to go with that build against (arguably) the world's best player, but to make it work. I'm in awe.

And hats off to July who saved the day for Korea with some dominating victories. I love his style and decision making. He had amazing variety in his play, and great reading skills, despite his rep as being "aggressive".
You loved me as a loser but now you're worried that I just might win. -L. Cohen
IzieBoy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States865 Posts
March 29 2011 20:06 GMT
#9031
where do i go to find these replays?
Let's Do This! Leeeeeeeeeeeeeroy Jenkins!
namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
March 29 2011 20:06 GMT
#9032
Mvp would have won by judge. high income, more ex, 200/200, 3/3upgrade, bunch of pfs.. slow spire can do nothing against that. ..well, it was just a friendly show match that's why they didn't give mvp a win I guess.

btw why huk so slumping on GSL? he should have beat july so easily.
You know what I'm talking about
MasterCassim
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany38 Posts
March 29 2011 20:07 GMT
#9033
On March 30 2011 05:06 IzieBoy wrote:
where do i go to find these replays?

There are no replays; only vods.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3507 Posts
March 29 2011 20:08 GMT
#9034
On March 30 2011 05:06 IzieBoy wrote:
where do i go to find these replays?

Look; http://www.gomtv.net/videos/index.gom
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14081 Posts
March 29 2011 20:10 GMT
#9035
I'm shocked by this whole ternoment I was just as the next guy hopeing it wouldn't be embaressing but damm it went down to the wire I can't wait to watch all the matches

A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
MasterCassim
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany38 Posts
March 29 2011 20:10 GMT
#9036
On March 30 2011 05:06 namedplayer wrote:
Mvp would have won by judge. high income, more ex, 200/200, 3/3upgrade, bunch of pfs.. slow spire can do nothing against that. ..well, it was just a friendly show match that's why they didn't give mvp a win I guess.

btw why huk so slumping on GSL? he should have beat july so easily.

You could not give MVP a win for that. I don't think he would've gotten a win in TSL with this. There is no 95% win chance.
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
March 29 2011 20:12 GMT
#9037
On March 30 2011 04:58 Pandain wrote:
I'm actually really so proud of our foreigners. I mean, for the longest time there has been an iron grip on the Starcraft Proscene, an iron grip that is supported by the glove of everyone here who said that the Koreans were "untouchable." Hell, we saw White Ra OUTPLAY MC. Sure it was PvP, but how can you explain Dimaga vs MVP(showing that Dimaga can match with even the best), or Sen vs Marineking Prime?

Not to mention this was the BEST of the BEST for the Koreans and only the best we could muster at the time for the allstars. I mean, the only person from Korea who I felt shouldn't have been there was Anypro, but really there weren't any other "superb" options either. But think about who was on the Foreigner team. While definitely some of the VERY best we have, I would've subbed out a couple.

Morrow for Idra
Moonglade for Socke
Huk for QXC(sorry Huk)




Morrow is better than idrA np np. Maybe at the height of his powers idrA was better, but he only practices 5-6 hours a day now reportedly, and he certaintly doesn't make up for it with strategic brilliance or unpredictability. MorroW definitely wouldn't have lost to cruncher, thats all i can say about that.
White-Ra fighting!
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
March 29 2011 20:14 GMT
#9038
I came in my pants when I watched MC vs WHITE RA!! SO GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
Quote?
CaM27
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium392 Posts
March 29 2011 20:16 GMT
#9039
Where can i watch/download this MC vS WHITE RA GAME!!!! PLEASE im dying to see this because of all the hype!!!
Prime`Rib
Profile Joined September 2010
United States613 Posts
March 29 2011 20:18 GMT
#9040
I would wait for the result of the individual tournament to see how the World vs. Korea unfolds.
... funerals are insane, the chicks are so horny, its not even fair, its like fishing with dynamite ...
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