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Balance whining will result in a ban
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
March 27 2011 19:20 GMT
#3641
On March 28 2011 04:16 shabinka wrote:
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On March 28 2011 04:14 hidiliho wrote:
Just to note.

Idra didn't gg any game. Thats more BM than the smiley face.

See you gg because you respect your opponent, IdrA doesn't respect his opponent. That's not bm.
That smiley face is quite bm


Not gging is 100 % bm, what the hell are you talking about?
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
March 27 2011 19:20 GMT
#3642
On March 28 2011 04:19 Durp wrote:
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On March 28 2011 04:16 shabinka wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:14 hidiliho wrote:
Just to note.

Idra didn't gg any game. Thats more BM than the smiley face.

See you gg because you respect your opponent, IdrA doesn't respect his opponent. That's not bm.
That smiley face is quite bm


GG stands for Good Game. Those were not good games.

True,they were AWESOME games. Which in Starcraft is typed : )
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
inSeason
Profile Joined October 2010
United States40 Posts
March 27 2011 19:20 GMT
#3643
Idra vs. CrunCher summary

[image loading]
The Fruit Has Been Dealt!
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
March 27 2011 19:20 GMT
#3644
On March 28 2011 04:18 GaryBrackett wrote:
Cruncher really awful.
Why do casters keep saying he beat all these Koreans?
Wow so hard to beat Inca in PVP with 300 MS in 4 Gate Mirror :S


Well he beat checkprime and MKP... and oGsSupernova proved all your arguments wrong.. he destroyed every single opponent yesterday -- including his teammate.
artanis2
Profile Joined April 2010
United States732 Posts
March 27 2011 19:20 GMT
#3645
All I see from idra fans is "it's OK for idra to bm, but not his opponents!"
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
March 27 2011 19:20 GMT
#3646
On March 28 2011 03:55 legaton wrote:
Six gates push, calling it now


Oh yeah, i have a superior strategic mind than Idra. I was pretty sure that Cruncher was going for some delayed cheese because Idra would be waiting the 4gate.

Poor Idra, he worked so hard on his mechanics when he was a BW programer, and he's now realizing that having good mechanics doesn't mean anything on a dumbed down game that favors "pushes" and has smart mining and multiple building selection. He was always really bad when it came to adaptability in BW, and it still is his weak point.

Not a lot to say about Cruncher, i still think he's mediocre and uninspiring.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
dogmode
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Philippines491 Posts
March 27 2011 19:20 GMT
#3647
sometimes the better players lose, idra is of course better but cruncher still won, it happens. >.< on another note zerg really get pissed with toss timing attacks T_T i remember a game i played a few hours ago, zerg BMed mo so bad coz I did a 6 gate timing lol, i guess there are really just phases when people hate certain builds T_T (bitbybitprime terran 2 rax all in anyone?)
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - KuroKy
ArghUScaredMe
Profile Joined July 2010
United States712 Posts
March 27 2011 19:20 GMT
#3648
Look what you kids have done:

Balance whining will result in a ban


The games are won and lost as is. IdrA lost because he lost.
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
March 27 2011 19:20 GMT
#3649
The from Cruncher was a bit of bm. But deserved bm, Idra has shown Cruncher no respect over the entire build up to and playing out of the series. Also Cruncher played well in the two games he won. He didn't cheese and wasn't afraid to go up against Idra in big macro games. I don't think Idra played well though. He was just to inflexible, in the first game Cruncher let him Drone up, but then he let Cruncher max out, if he'd put pressure back on Cruncher like he did in game 2 it would have been a lot closer.
Marooned
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway161 Posts
March 27 2011 19:20 GMT
#3650
On March 28 2011 04:09 leo23 wrote:
Beautiful forcefields... stacked 6 roaches in 1 hex, truly amazing. Props to cruncher.


Yeah, great skill to have. He seemed to be really happy with that accomplishment as well. ;p
Binky1842
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States2599 Posts
March 27 2011 19:20 GMT
#3651
On March 28 2011 04:18 Manimal_pro wrote:
just arrived, idra - cruncher 0-2 ?

idra 1-2 cruncher
"The zoo could not confirm that Binky was the attacker, but only Binky had blood on his face following the incident"
Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
March 27 2011 19:21 GMT
#3652
The camera man is superb if it's you HotBid, you are doing a amazing job.
"Skills to pay the bills" - Artosis, https://twitter.com/AegeisSC2 ,http://www.tumblr.com/blog/socal-esports
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
March 27 2011 19:21 GMT
#3653
On March 28 2011 04:19 MoonBear wrote:
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On March 28 2011 04:19 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:18 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:18 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:17 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:16 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:15 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:14 MoonBear wrote:
Match 1: GSL Crevasse
[image loading] (T)Empire.Kas vs [image loading] (Z)TLAF-Liquid`HayprO

Haypro spwans as Blue Zerg @5
Kas spawns as Red Terran @1

2:00
Kas with 10-rax, Haypro going 15 hat at forward nat.

3:00
No gas from Kas. CC at inside nat from Kas.

4:15
Kas with second rax. Both players now have their gas up.

5:00
Triple rax from Kas now to block the ramp.

6:00
Reactor on one of the rax, factory making. 3rd hat at inside nat for Haypro.

6:45
Tech lab on first factory. Second factory going down.

Correction: Tech Lab on the rax, not reactor.

Baneline nest going down.

7:50
Siege being researched. Lair started.

8:30
Stim being researched. Kas kills the rocks at his front. OL sees techlab, but not what it's attached to before dying. Kas starts another CC in-base I think. Marine/tank move out.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
veraliar
Profile Joined November 2010
227 Posts
March 27 2011 19:21 GMT
#3654
Idra's fanboys: "Cruncher sucks wah wah wah wah."

Cruncher:
nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
March 27 2011 19:21 GMT
#3655
This is why I hate TL you're all hypocritical, I'm glad idrA got rolled, he's a overrated player, and these US players are going to surpass him. He BMed and got rolled enough said.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 27 2011 19:21 GMT
#3656
On March 28 2011 04:19 stormtemplar wrote:
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On March 28 2011 04:18 Pandain wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:15 ComusLoM wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:12 Roggay wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:09 LittLeD wrote:
Cruncher completely outclassed IdrA. Fact is fact


Or not, he abused sad things, we saw why IdrA is so much better in game 2.

The map lends itself to such a drop, we've seen it quite a few times before. I don't think Cruncher was aware of it. The other two games really showed Cruncher's skills and understanding of the game. It really appeared superior to IdrA.


Of course....let's take a look.
Game 1: Idra is 50 supply ahead, only noticable mistake was not getting hive fast enough. Idra has 7 bases vs Cruncher's 3, Idra has creep spread all over the map, and Cruncher makes void rays, collusus, survives some pushes from Idra(which he couldn't really attack up the ramp anyway) and then attacks and wins. Definitely shows that Cruncher is better......
Note this isn't about balance, just saying that Zerg doesn't have the answer to voidray/collusus right now, even with infestors.

Game 2: Idra completely outplays Cruncher with multi pronged attacks, 200 vs 100 food, 100 vs 50 food.

Game 3: Cruncher 6 gates and wins, then bm's Idra after all inning.



6 gate is not all in. At all.


I didn't really want to engage in this discussion but just a quick note. It can be all in if he commits to the attack and loses the army. If he plays smartly and doesn't lose the army/sentries then yea it's not all in.

So can be non all in but it's far riskier than other builds if it fails.
Edgaralanpwn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1 Post
March 27 2011 19:21 GMT
#3657
>mfw cruncher is still copper league

smile to my face and not online, cruncher, and see what happens /internettoughguy

User was banned for this post.
They told me to zealot rush and I became a GOD.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
March 27 2011 19:21 GMT
#3658
On March 28 2011 04:14 Murkinlol wrote:
Idra saw the push and built drones. He doesn't deserve to advance with mistakes like that. Simple as that. Didn't build spines, Cruncher played very well. Game two was more of a build order win anyway, nothing too crazy/great about idras play in that game either.

Yeah, clearly trying to "prove" he doesn't even need to adapt. And that's why he got crunched.
pieisamazing
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1234 Posts
March 27 2011 19:21 GMT
#3659
On March 28 2011 04:17 Combine wrote:
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On March 28 2011 04:15 BrownBear wrote:
I guess I'm the only person who considers Cruncher's BM to be completely classless. Appropriate, maybe, given who he was playing against, but still absolutely classless.

He deserved the win, but made me into an anti-fan in the process. I'l be rooting for him to be roflstomped for the rest of his career.

Yeah, I'm with you. I'll be waiting for him to get 2-0'd by someone higher up in the bracket.

He'll get crushed by the next non-zerg pretty handily, I imagine.
connoisseur
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
March 27 2011 19:21 GMT
#3660
Match 3: Crevasse

[image loading] (T)Empire.Kas vs [image loading] (Z) Liquid.HayprO

9:15 Kas goes 3 rax stim marine + tank w/o medivac. Haypro scouts but only sees gas and one tech lab. Haypro has 11 lings and 45 drones (and a couple of spinecrawlers) Also 6 banelings.

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