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Balance whining will result in a ban
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
March 27 2011 19:22 GMT
#3681
oh wow he tottaly caught KAS off guard from that attack ;D
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
ToasteR_
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada551 Posts
March 27 2011 19:22 GMT
#3682
comon haypro
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
March 27 2011 19:22 GMT
#3683
Kas not even microing at all :/
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
Tipany
Profile Joined November 2010
United States368 Posts
March 27 2011 19:22 GMT
#3684
On March 28 2011 04:21 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 04:20 Myles wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:18 Spiffeh wrote:
Idra's "BM" isn't really BM - he does it all the time.

It's more BM for a player who normally GG's to all of a sudden not GG.

Cruncher used this to his advantage by making Idra look like more a jerk. (in game 2, "glhfing" and not doing the same in game 1), (doing the smiley)...all uncharacteristic of his normal behavior.

Idra is being himself. Cruncher knows what he was doing is baiting a reaction, which is why I don't respect him.


So because Idra is always BM its ok, but when someone else BM's because they were disrespected(you know, being called a walkover) it's not ok. It's hypocrisy, nothing else.

Just stop arguing with IdrA fans. They'll try to reason in any way possible to keep IdrA up on a pedestal and villainise the other guy. Let it lie.

I don't know dude, there's a difference between passive BM and aggressive BM. Not to mention, Cruncher in a sense lowered himself to IdrA's level... find it hard that anyone would praise Cruncher for that.
wat.
AJMcSpiffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1154 Posts
March 27 2011 19:23 GMT
#3685
HayprO cleans up the contain, but Kas had never really reinforced so I don't think he's in a bad spot at all. Almost just used it to chew through banelings.
If the quarter was in your right hand, that would've been micro
Combine
Profile Joined July 2010
United States812 Posts
March 27 2011 19:23 GMT
#3686
Haypro :DDD nice, kas didnt see that coming.
(ಥ_ಥ)
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 19:23:32
March 27 2011 19:23 GMT
#3687
Why people compare IdrA's no "gg" vs. cruncher's smile? I consider smile much bigger bm, because no gg just shows that Idra was just dissapointed that he was much superior player (which he was) and still lost. Smile is just straight up agressive bm, which has no place in such tournament. Not to mention that 6 gate all-in is 10x easier to execute that drop play Idra made in game 2.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
March 27 2011 19:23 GMT
#3688
On March 28 2011 04:22 MoonBear wrote:
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On March 28 2011 04:21 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:19 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:19 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:18 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:18 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:17 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:16 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:15 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:14 MoonBear wrote:
Match 1: GSL Crevasse
[image loading] (T)Empire.Kas vs [image loading] (Z)TLAF-Liquid`HayprO

Haypro spwans as Blue Zerg @5
Kas spawns as Red Terran @1

2:00
Kas with 10-rax, Haypro going 15 hat at forward nat.

3:00
No gas from Kas. CC at inside nat from Kas.

4:15
Kas with second rax. Both players now have their gas up.

5:00
Triple rax from Kas now to block the ramp.

6:00
Reactor on one of the rax, factory making. 3rd hat at inside nat for Haypro.

6:45
Tech lab on first factory. Second factory going down.

Correction: Tech Lab on the rax, not reactor.

Baneline nest going down.

7:50
Siege being researched. Lair started.

8:30
Stim being researched. Kas kills the rocks at his front. OL sees techlab, but not what it's attached to before dying. Kas starts another CC in-base I think. Marine/tank move out.

10:00
Kas using scans to kill creep tumours. Sieges up at hill overlooking ramp into Haypro's forward nat. Spire on the way for Haypro, bane speed as well.

11:30
Ling flank and baneling front clean up the terran army at the nat ridge. Kas has another army made with 2 tanks and ~10 marines. Reactors on rax at Kas's main. 5 rax, 3 factory I think. Mutas now on the field.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
PieLieDie
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden172 Posts
March 27 2011 19:23 GMT
#3689
On March 28 2011 04:20 legaton wrote:
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On March 28 2011 03:55 legaton wrote:
Six gates push, calling it now


Oh yeah, i have a superior strategic mind than Idra. I was pretty sure that Cruncher was going for some delayed cheese because Idra would be waiting the 4gate.

Poor Idra, he worked so hard on his mechanics when he was a BW programer, and he's now realizing that having good mechanics doesn't mean anything on a dumbed down game that favors "pushes" and has smart mining and multiple building selection. He was always really bad when it came to adaptability in BW, and it still is his weak point.

Not a lot to say about Cruncher, i still think he's mediocre and uninspiring.


well put
TalkSick
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria223 Posts
March 27 2011 19:23 GMT
#3690
GO KAS GO!
whatthefat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States918 Posts
March 27 2011 19:23 GMT
#3691
Can't help but feel roaches would be a much wiser decision than mutas here, especially given zerg is low on gas.
SlayerS_BoxeR: "I always feel sorry towards Greg (Grack?) T_T"
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
March 27 2011 19:23 GMT
#3692
On March 28 2011 04:21 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 04:20 Myles wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:18 Spiffeh wrote:
Idra's "BM" isn't really BM - he does it all the time.

It's more BM for a player who normally GG's to all of a sudden not GG.

Cruncher used this to his advantage by making Idra look like more a jerk. (in game 2, "glhfing" and not doing the same in game 1), (doing the smiley)...all uncharacteristic of his normal behavior.

Idra is being himself. Cruncher knows what he was doing is baiting a reaction, which is why I don't respect him.


So because Idra is always BM its ok, but when someone else BM's because they were disrespected(you know, being called a walkover) it's not ok. It's hypocrisy, nothing else.

Just stop arguing with IdrA fans. They'll try to reason in any way possible to keep IdrA up on the pedestal and villainise the other guy. Let it lie.


Yep.. its the same group of fans who say "MVP cant possibly lose to anyone outside of Korea, it must be Lag.."..

IdrA really should run for president.. hes got SOOO many nerds brainwashed with his shitty philosophy of "every build except the exact one I use is all-in or cheese".. how can a community really keep regurgitating the bullshit this kid puts out there, time and time again after he gets embarassed by being BM and getting dominated in huge tournaments??
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
imnotwearingpants
Profile Joined September 2010
United States129 Posts
March 27 2011 19:23 GMT
#3693
Nice wipe of Kas contain; but, quite a lot of units lost by Haypro to do so. Go get 'em Haypro!
World War 1 was started by the assasination of R2-D2
eloist
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1017 Posts
March 27 2011 19:23 GMT
#3694
What was with the corruptor donation in game 1 anyways. It looked like Idra was afk there.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
March 27 2011 19:23 GMT
#3695
On March 28 2011 04:23 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 04:22 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:21 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:19 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:19 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:18 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:18 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:17 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:16 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:15 MoonBear wrote:
[quote]
2:00
Kas with 10-rax, Haypro going 15 hat at forward nat.

3:00
No gas from Kas. CC at inside nat from Kas.

4:15
Kas with second rax. Both players now have their gas up.

5:00
Triple rax from Kas now to block the ramp.

6:00
Reactor on one of the rax, factory making. 3rd hat at inside nat for Haypro.

6:45
Tech lab on first factory. Second factory going down.

Correction: Tech Lab on the rax, not reactor.

Baneline nest going down.

7:50
Siege being researched. Lair started.

8:30
Stim being researched. Kas kills the rocks at his front. OL sees techlab, but not what it's attached to before dying. Kas starts another CC in-base I think. Marine/tank move out.

10:00
Kas using scans to kill creep tumours. Sieges up at hill overlooking ramp into Haypro's forward nat. Spire on the way for Haypro, bane speed as well.

11:30
Ling flank and baneling front clean up the terran army at the nat ridge. Kas has another army made with 2 tanks and ~10 marines. Reactors on rax at Kas's main. 5 rax, 3 factory I think. Mutas now on the field.

13:00
Kas sieges up in the middle.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
March 27 2011 19:23 GMT
#3696
Havent see Kas play TvZ in a while. His macro seems top notch. Micro not so much
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
phoenixfeather95
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
665 Posts
March 27 2011 19:23 GMT
#3697
any one lagging for the LQ stream???
=((((
@dbrisingr
KoshkaTV
Profile Joined October 2010
United States430 Posts
March 27 2011 19:23 GMT
#3698
Day9 called it.... Idra crumbled in the deciding game.

This is going to sound mean, but Idra needs a sport psychologist.... he's using his own energy against himself.

He's an AMAZING player... but he doesn't have a winners mentality. He take on the role of victim, and thats just not right mindset for competition.

Kid needs a COACH!!!!! Not a bunch of enabler fanboys.
www.KoshkaTV.com
Jaik
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3 Posts
March 27 2011 19:23 GMT
#3699
Will someone please tell them to put up the dual resource monitoring on the right hand side?
Pelopidas
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada225 Posts
March 27 2011 19:23 GMT
#3700
Now hundreds of people are going to claim the cruncher is the best protoss in world against all reason. All he needs to do is stream, and beat a bunch of overrated players in minor tournaments and we will never hear the end of it. uggh
Esports killed Starcraft
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