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Balance whining will result in a ban
ArghUScaredMe
Profile Joined July 2010
United States712 Posts
March 27 2011 19:25 GMT
#3721
On March 28 2011 04:25 Imbajoe wrote:
Only just tuned into this match, can someone tell me which patch this is playing on?


Not 1.3
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
March 27 2011 19:25 GMT
#3722
Match 3: Crevasse

[image loading] (T)Empire.Kas vs [image loading] (Z) Liquid.HayprO

15:00 Haypro picks off reinforcements, kills two turrets for two mutas but kills ~8 workers. Fair sized group of mutas hanging around, and armory got cancelled by mutas. Shitton of zerglings incoming: I Think haypro is going to try and end it.

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SwordfishConspiracy
Profile Joined December 2010
United States146 Posts
March 27 2011 19:25 GMT
#3723
I don't understand how using a really powerful timing attack is "abusing." The point of this game is to KILL YOUR OPPONENT, not to be polite and wait until your opponent can defend your push. If you deliberately use a weaker strategy because you see the better one as unfair to your opponent (who you are trying to eliminate so you can win a ton of money), you deserve to lose.
SwordfishConspiracy
FreddYCooL
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden415 Posts
March 27 2011 19:25 GMT
#3724
My interest for TSL is decreasing with all these upsets unfortunately. Im just not interested in seeing players like naniwa and cruncher in the later stages of the tournament
Demand2k
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway875 Posts
March 27 2011 19:25 GMT
#3725
Sucks that idra gets knocked out by a nobody, happends too often. Boring since he always adds color to a tournament
artanis2
Profile Joined April 2010
United States732 Posts
March 27 2011 19:25 GMT
#3726
On March 28 2011 04:23 Alpina wrote:
Why people compare IdrA's no "gg" vs. cruncher's smile? I consider smile much bigger bm, because no gg just shows that Idra was just dissapointed that he was much superior player (which he was) and still lost. Smile is just straight up agressive bm, which has no place in such tournament. Not to mention that 6 gate all-in is 10x easier to execute that drop play Idra made in game 2.


If he was the superior player, he would have won.
S_pawn
Profile Joined December 2010
25 Posts
March 27 2011 19:25 GMT
#3727
"Balanced whining will result in a bann".

You know I guessed Idra was gonna lose when I saw that.
tetracycloide
Profile Joined July 2010
295 Posts
March 27 2011 19:25 GMT
#3728
On March 28 2011 04:18 dani` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 04:05 sereniity wrote:
Game 1: Idra lets Cruncher build up a Deathball and gets 1a:d.... Second game, macro/micro game and cruncher gets COMPLETELY outclassed, showing that Idra is clearly the better player.

Game 3... six gate................

To top it all, Cruncher does a smileyface in the end.

I honestly think it's just pathetic, I guess Cruncher is really proud that he won with a six gate...

If IdrA indeed is the better player he should not lose in a BO3, simple as that.

Your grasp of probabilities is lacking, simple as that.
My vanity is justified
Kammalleri
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada613 Posts
March 27 2011 19:25 GMT
#3729
I really think IdrA needs to stop giving everybody shit and get his game at the level he thinks he's at.

Game 2 was sick and totally the kind of play he had to use to counter Cruncher. I don't understand why he didnt use drops in game 1.

The engagement in game 1 was totally pathetic... It's cool to see that he can macro, but he's one of the worse pro zerg i've seen once it comes to making most of his units and he won't win big tourny if he keeps losing his army for nothing
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
March 27 2011 19:25 GMT
#3730
why make so many production buildings when you can't even support it?
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
March 27 2011 19:25 GMT
#3731
kas is gonna win this series
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
March 27 2011 19:25 GMT
#3732
On March 28 2011 04:23 jdseemoreglass wrote:
"Balance whining will result in a ban"

"-Nothing is imba."

Can someone explain these things to me? Honestly I just don't understand things like this. What is the reasoning behind it?


this thread should be about the tournament today, not about the state of PvZ, if you have any elaborate thoughts on it make a post in a fitting thread
Kevmeister @ Dota2
DennizR
Profile Joined May 2007
Sweden653 Posts
March 27 2011 19:26 GMT
#3733
I really think the portrait of idra looks like the guy usually found in this meme...

[image loading]

User was warned for this post
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
March 27 2011 19:26 GMT
#3734
On March 28 2011 04:23 jdseemoreglass wrote:
"Balance whining will result in a ban"

"-Nothing is imba."

Can someone explain these things to me? Honestly I just don't understand things like this. What is the reasoning behind it?


You can discuss balance but not in a freaking LR thread.
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
March 27 2011 19:26 GMT
#3735
Sooo good Haypro omg.
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
cidereal
Profile Joined March 2011
2 Posts
March 27 2011 19:26 GMT
#3736
Well after watching yesterday and today's TSL matches, I'm convinced a major reason sc2 has found a foothold outside Korea relates directly to the volatility of the game. As much fun as rooting for foreigners is, it's a little disconcerting that the corollary between skill and results is smaller than ever. Compared to BW, it seems that an inferior player here can take a series off a much better one at least 3 out of 10 times assuming some luck + exploiting specific builds/timing pushes.

I'd argue on the whole sc2's volatility (in relation to BW) has majorly benefited its growth and fostered a greater sense of competition. Whether that remains true going forward should be interesting.
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
March 27 2011 19:26 GMT
#3737
DAT Baneling BUST <3
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
Whathe
Profile Joined March 2011
United States60 Posts
March 27 2011 19:26 GMT
#3738
noo..
ROMANCE
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
March 27 2011 19:26 GMT
#3739
On March 28 2011 04:25 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 04:24 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:23 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:23 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:22 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:21 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:19 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:19 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:18 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:18 MoonBear wrote:
[quote]
5:00
Triple rax from Kas now to block the ramp.

6:00
Reactor on one of the rax, factory making. 3rd hat at inside nat for Haypro.

6:45
Tech lab on first factory. Second factory going down.

Correction: Tech Lab on the rax, not reactor.

Baneline nest going down.

7:50
Siege being researched. Lair started.

8:30
Stim being researched. Kas kills the rocks at his front. OL sees techlab, but not what it's attached to before dying. Kas starts another CC in-base I think. Marine/tank move out.

10:00
Kas using scans to kill creep tumours. Sieges up at hill overlooking ramp into Haypro's forward nat. Spire on the way for Haypro, bane speed as well.

11:30
Ling flank and baneling front clean up the terran army at the nat ridge. Kas has another army made with 2 tanks and ~10 marines. Reactors on rax at Kas's main. 5 rax, 3 factory I think. Mutas now on the field.

13:00
Kas sieges up in the middle.

13:30
Haypro tries to expo but marines spot it and force cancel. Mutas go to inside nat and kill turrets and SCVs. They kill the making armoury.

Kas has inside expo as his 3rd up for a while incase I missed it. Haypro morphings banes.

15:20
Tank-Turrets in the middle. Mass of lings-banes being made.

18:00
Mutas snipe a tank. Forces a stim twice from mass of marines. Banes and lings attack into the middle as marine force tries to chase mutas and are distracted.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
March 27 2011 19:26 GMT
#3740
omg nice play hayder
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