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Balance whining will result in a ban
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
March 27 2011 19:21 GMT
#3661
How is Haypro not ahead in supply?
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
March 27 2011 19:21 GMT
#3662
for some reason.. everytime I watch idra in a tourney... he loses.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 19:21:50
March 27 2011 19:21 GMT
#3663
On March 28 2011 04:20 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 04:18 Spiffeh wrote:
Idra's "BM" isn't really BM - he does it all the time.

It's more BM for a player who normally GG's to all of a sudden not GG.

Cruncher used this to his advantage by making Idra look like more a jerk. (in game 2, "glhfing" and not doing the same in game 1), (doing the smiley)...all uncharacteristic of his normal behavior.

Idra is being himself. Cruncher knows what he was doing is baiting a reaction, which is why I don't respect him.


So because Idra is always BM its ok, but when someone else BM's because they were disrespected(you know, being called a walkover) it's not ok. It's hypocrisy, nothing else.

Just stop arguing with IdrA fans. They'll try to reason in any way possible to keep IdrA up on a pedestal and villainise the other guy. Let it lie.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Irrelevant
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2364 Posts
March 27 2011 19:21 GMT
#3664
Grats to cruncher saving my bracket after the clusterfuck that was yesterday
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 27 2011 19:21 GMT
#3665
On March 28 2011 04:19 stormtemplar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 04:18 Pandain wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:15 ComusLoM wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:12 Roggay wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:09 LittLeD wrote:
Cruncher completely outclassed IdrA. Fact is fact


Or not, he abused sad things, we saw why IdrA is so much better in game 2.

The map lends itself to such a drop, we've seen it quite a few times before. I don't think Cruncher was aware of it. The other two games really showed Cruncher's skills and understanding of the game. It really appeared superior to IdrA.


Of course....let's take a look.
Game 1: Idra is 50 supply ahead, only noticable mistake was not getting hive fast enough. Idra has 7 bases vs Cruncher's 3, Idra has creep spread all over the map, and Cruncher makes void rays, collusus, survives some pushes from Idra(which he couldn't really attack up the ramp anyway) and then attacks and wins. Definitely shows that Cruncher is better......
Note this isn't about balance, just saying that Zerg doesn't have the answer to voidray/collusus right now, even with infestors.

Game 2: Idra completely outplays Cruncher with multi pronged attacks, 200 vs 100 food, 100 vs 50 food.

Game 3: Cruncher 6 gates and wins, then bm's Idra after all inning.



6 gate is not all in. At all.


5 gate isn't all in(well it can be).
6 gate is definitely all in for a number of reasons(or at the very least semi all in, equivelent to a 4 gate).

If it fails(and Idra had gotten burrow and made roaches), then what can you rely on? You have to survive a huge roach burrow timing(and that's why 5 gate allows you to survive easier) and then get collusus after a long period, during which zerg is free to expand and such. Basically 6 gate commits you to gateway units for a decent amount of time, and zerg will just demolish gateway protoss in the mid game.
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
March 27 2011 19:21 GMT
#3666
On March 28 2011 04:21 Edgaralanpwn wrote:
>mfw cruncher is still copper league

smile to my face and not online, cruncher, and see what happens /internettoughguy


New guy, please don't do 4chan shit here. This forum has suffered enough.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
March 27 2011 19:21 GMT
#3667
Haypro waiting for baneling speed to flank
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
trucane
Profile Joined January 2009
United States553 Posts
March 27 2011 19:22 GMT
#3668
Loved the smiley from cruncher
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
March 27 2011 19:22 GMT
#3669
On March 28 2011 04:21 MoonBear wrote:
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On March 28 2011 04:19 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:19 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:18 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:18 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:17 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:16 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:15 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:14 MoonBear wrote:
Match 1: GSL Crevasse
[image loading] (T)Empire.Kas vs [image loading] (Z)TLAF-Liquid`HayprO

Haypro spwans as Blue Zerg @5
Kas spawns as Red Terran @1

2:00
Kas with 10-rax, Haypro going 15 hat at forward nat.

3:00
No gas from Kas. CC at inside nat from Kas.

4:15
Kas with second rax. Both players now have their gas up.

5:00
Triple rax from Kas now to block the ramp.

6:00
Reactor on one of the rax, factory making. 3rd hat at inside nat for Haypro.

6:45
Tech lab on first factory. Second factory going down.

Correction: Tech Lab on the rax, not reactor.

Baneline nest going down.

7:50
Siege being researched. Lair started.

8:30
Stim being researched. Kas kills the rocks at his front. OL sees techlab, but not what it's attached to before dying. Kas starts another CC in-base I think. Marine/tank move out.

10:00
Kas using scans to kill creep tumours. Sieges up at hill overlooking ramp into Haypro's forward nat. Spire on the way for Haypro, bane speed as well.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Ezze
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada934 Posts
March 27 2011 19:22 GMT
#3670
On March 28 2011 04:17 Chrissy wrote:
[image loading]

User was temp banned for this post.


omg that is so win
Punscho
Profile Joined January 2011
70 Posts
March 27 2011 19:22 GMT
#3671
11:10 baneling speed finishes
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
March 27 2011 19:22 GMT
#3672
On March 28 2011 04:10 tyCe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 04:09 Rokk wrote:
On March 28 2011 04:07 najreteip wrote:
Those forcefields were gosu
that's all there is to it


1. Spam smart cast FFs from 6 sentries
2. Become gosu

MC fanboys seem to think so lol

Can you people just enjoy the games and not whine about everything
I have no quote!
artanis2
Profile Joined April 2010
United States732 Posts
March 27 2011 19:22 GMT
#3673
Idra said he expected 4 gate all-in from Cruncher, yet he didn't play to stop it. Guess Idra isn't really that good.
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
March 27 2011 19:22 GMT
#3674
haha Kas sending lots of tank marine to the back of his base because of pathing xD
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
March 27 2011 19:22 GMT
#3675
lol did Kas go afk or something?
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
March 27 2011 19:22 GMT
#3676
HAYPROOOOO!!!
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
March 27 2011 19:22 GMT
#3677
On March 28 2011 04:20 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 04:18 Spiffeh wrote:
Idra's "BM" isn't really BM - he does it all the time.

It's more BM for a player who normally GG's to all of a sudden not GG.

Cruncher used this to his advantage by making Idra look like more a jerk. (in game 2, "glhfing" and not doing the same in game 1), (doing the smiley)...all uncharacteristic of his normal behavior.

Idra is being himself. Cruncher knows what he was doing is baiting a reaction, which is why I don't respect him.


So because Idra is always BM its ok, but when someone else BM's because they were disrespected(you know, being called a walkover) it's not ok. It's hypocrisy, nothing else.

Exactly if Cruncher smiley faces his way past other players then he will deserve criticism but he wont.
R3N
Profile Joined March 2011
740 Posts
March 27 2011 19:22 GMT
#3678
oh wow haypro baby!
TheRhox
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada868 Posts
March 27 2011 19:22 GMT
#3679
haypro fighting!
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
March 27 2011 19:22 GMT
#3680
FUCK YEAH, thats my hayder!!!<33
Team NSHoseo <3
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