EPT[NASL] Players (final) - Page 20
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Players such as Jinro, HuK, and Adelscott did not apply for this tour, so don't ask why they aren't on this list. DIMAGA, Kas, and LaLush turned applications in late so they will not appear either. Please take some time to learn who exactly applied. Please inform yourself about who applied and who didn't. | ||
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Ancient.eu
Romania621 Posts
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say10
22 Posts
On March 23 2011 19:09 haflo wrote: let me try to give some constructive critisizm #1 NASL site is awefull - when i reached it i went back to google and looked for other hits cause i couldnt belive this is really a site , after avilio being Number 1 in votes i refuse to go back there. i did better job at a site for UT clan 5 years ago. i would like to see a proffesional site by a decent designer for a tournament with 400k prize , dont underestimate the package . if thats not possible a forum in TL like TSL would be much better then the current solution. if thats not possible a blogpost / worldpress site would be better. #2 the announcment of the players - seriously ? i really appreciate the dramma with the revealing , but if you do it do it correctly. a very good example of doing it right is TSL , the players , their background and reasons they were choosen - just the names is not good enough ... and better just skip this then doing it half assed. pictures videos or even just use incontrol hype talent with voice announcments would be a very welcome addition. transparency will go very long way with the croud , if you see again TSL with the award winning decision of boxer , thats the right way of doing things - and look how that hard decision recieved. explain your decisions. #3 the players revealed - i believe nasl saving the best to last , i dont agree with that . you need people to be excited from the start - keep the revealed group ballanced. #4 the players choices - there was a 100 page + thread about it somewhere with a nice pole. i think its fair to say the vast majority will be very disapointed with only a few medicore koreans allowed , i will not go there for redundency , just look at the 50k+ viewers on korea vs world matches in TSL. TL , DR its just very important to keep the production value for everything you do , and not only the main part , look at successfull companys like blizzard or apple and their finish on their product , the pre show is very important , i do hope that the NASL will show improvment on thier preshow look on TSL again for a good example thank you for the long read, and goolduck with the really nice project. You whine on about the importance of presentation but seem to be miss the hypocrisy. Look forward to seeing the full groups. | ||
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ilisan
Germany78 Posts
On March 23 2011 19:09 haflo wrote: let me try to give some constructive critisizm #1 NASL site is awefull - when i reached it i went back to google and looked for other hits cause i couldnt belive this is really a site , after avilio being Number 1 in votes i refuse to go back there. i did better job at a site for UT clan 5 years ago. i would like to see a proffesional site by a decent designer for a tournament with 400k prize , dont underestimate the package . if thats not possible a forum in TL like TSL would be much better then the current solution. if thats not possible a blogpost / worldpress site would be better. #2 the announcment of the players - seriously ? i really appreciate the dramma with the revealing , but if you do it do it correctly. a very good example of doing it right is TSL , the players , their background and reasons they were choosen - just the names is not good enough ... and better just skip this then doing it half assed. pictures videos or even just use incontrol hype talent with voice announcments would be a very welcome addition. transparency will go very long way with the croud , if you see again TSL with the award winning decision of boxer , thats the right way of doing things - and look how that hard decision recieved. explain your decisions. #3 the players revealed - i believe nasl saving the best to last , i dont agree with that . you need people to be excited from the start - keep the revealed group ballanced. #4 the players choices - there was a 100 page + thread about it somewhere with a nice pole. i think its fair to say the vast majority will be very disapointed with only a few medicore koreans allowed , i will not go there for redundency , just look at the 50k+ viewers on korea vs world matches in TSL. TL , DR its just very important to keep the production value for everything you do , and not only the main part , look at successfull companys like blizzard or apple and their finish on their product , the pre show is very important , i do hope that the NASL will show improvment on thier preshow look on TSL again for a good example thank you for the long read, and goolduck with the really nice project. i agree that the presentation wasnt executed very well so far. hope nasl improves on that. like more content on their page, interviews, short teaser videos,... there are so many posibilities to create drama+attention. (everything else is great so far ;-) ) | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On March 23 2011 20:13 Ancient.eu wrote: What is this stupidity with voting ? Why don't they have qualifiers ? If they have couple of weeks before the start of the tournament (4th of april?), how do you think they are able to do a qualifier for this? On March 23 2011 19:09 haflo wrote: let me try to give some constructive critisizm #1 NASL site is awefull - when i reached it i went back to google and looked for other hits cause i couldnt belive this is really a site , after avilio being Number 1 in votes i refuse to go back there. i did better job at a site for UT clan 5 years ago. i would like to see a proffesional site by a decent designer for a tournament with 400k prize , dont underestimate the package . if thats not possible a forum in TL like TSL would be much better then the current solution. if thats not possible a blogpost / worldpress site would be better. The site looks awfull yeah, but as far as i have read right, its just temporary site. | ||
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HickleStine
Australia276 Posts
should be good. | ||
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Speckled Jim
Australia26 Posts
On March 23 2011 20:47 HickleStine wrote: FUCK YES KAWAIIRICE FUCK YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES. should be good. God yes I agree sir. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
On March 23 2011 19:09 haflo wrote: #4 the players choices - there was a 100 page + thread about it somewhere with a nice pole. i think its fair to say the vast majority will be very disapointed with only a few medicore koreans allowed , i will not go there for redundency , just look at the 50k+ viewers on korea vs world matches in TSL. You realize TSL D2 this weekend had ~50k viewers while live, right? And only 1 Korean played that particular day. | ||
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antilyon
Brazil2546 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On March 23 2011 20:21 say10 wrote: You whine on about the importance of presentation but seem to be miss the hypocrisy. Look forward to seeing the full groups. ??? are you saying that people need to be professional? to criticise something? im so confused | ||
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DiaBoLuS
Germany1638 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17329 Posts
On March 23 2011 20:21 say10 wrote: You whine on about the importance of presentation but seem to be miss the hypocrisy. Look forward to seeing the full groups. he is not running around telling people he will create the biggest and best NA SC2 competitive experience though. he is just some random guy posting on forum board in his spare time. NASL.tv has done a lousy job "managing expectations". This should not come as much of a surprise because they've acknowledged they have no experience in this area. They probably would've been better off being a key sponsor at an IEM or MLG event. Then allowing an organization with a proven track record of consistent success run the show. Only time will tell though. Events like TSL, IEM, MLG and GSL are well run and will continue to move eSports forward whether or not the NASL succeeds. | ||
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haflo
140 Posts
On March 23 2011 20:21 say10 wrote: You whine on about the importance of presentation but seem to be miss the hypocrisy. Look forward to seeing the full groups. the diffrence between my post and yours i write my opinions , explain what braught me to those conclusions and offer alternatives that are feasable your post is quoting my post call it a "whine" and "hypocrite" can you see the diffrence ? did you even read it or was it too long for you ? please leave trolling for the blizzard forums , thank you . | ||
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Vorenius
Denmark1979 Posts
On March 23 2011 11:45 Clare wrote: Well I mean, moon is rather weak compared to most koreans. Just look at Ace, who got first in IEM gets 2-0'd in the up/down matches. Why not get the top koreans? So Ace>moon But Ace=CodeA And Idra= CodeS However Squirtle> Idra And Moon>Squirtle So it's logical to assume that CodeA>CodeS. Your logic doesn't seem very logical :s I got another one: Moon>Squirtle At IEM Squirtle>mvp in GSTL Conclusion: Moon > mvp So if Moon is better than a former GSL champion he should obviously be invited?  Why the fuck do people bitch so much about these invites? You can't have an absolute list of the 50 most deserving players since it is a very subjective thing, but can anyone honestly say any of the 15 names announced aren't at least in the top 70 of the players that applied? And if you claim they aren't feel free to list the 69 players who are clearly better. | ||
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Chanted
Norway1001 Posts
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
Look at those lists so far, I can honestly say that of those players, every single one would be in my top 100 players in the world list (except maybe cruncher). You can't expect NASL to get literally the top 50 players in the world playing. And do you guys really think every top korean progamer applied? I mean many of them don't speak a lick of english, so it's pretty hard to make an application video in english... And sometimes it isn't about who is most deserving. A lot of this has to do with who the fans want to see. And I can guarantee you more fans want to see Moon play than someone like Ace. Like if Day[9] were to apply. He would probably get in because of his popularity. But I doubt he is anywhere close to the top 50 worldwide. But would you really complain if Day[9] was competing? | ||
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Hypatio
549 Posts
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alexhard
Sweden317 Posts
On March 24 2011 00:24 DoomsVille wrote: ou can't expect NASL to get literally the top 50 players in the world playing. And do you guys really think every top korean progamer applied? I mean many of them don't speak a lick of english, so it's pretty hard to make an application video in english... I'd say that about 45 of the top 50 did apply, so I don't see why not. Just check the application video thread, a ton of ogs/slayers/FOX/startale players applied. | ||
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
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Al Bundy
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garlicface
Canada4196 Posts
On March 23 2011 20:21 say10 wrote: You whine on about the importance of presentation but seem to be miss the hypocrisy. Look forward to seeing the full groups. iNcontroL said that the NASL would be all about presentation, player features, and just a more viewer-to-player experience. I see no problem with this guy making a post about the importance of presentation. | ||
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