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Taiwan's TeSL: First pro SCII league on live TV - Page 3

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shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
March 21 2011 19:08 GMT
#41
Seems Taiwan has their infrastructure in order. Now they just need time to catch up to the Koreans.
They're off to a good start with team houses. Feels like Taiwan if they continue with this. They will be one of the bigger e-sports nations for sc2. Seems a bit bold to not let foreigners in that easily only because they might get crushed. But I can understand why they want that. The Taiwanese fans obviously wants the Taiwanese people to dominate because that just makes it more popular for them. I'm so jealous of the Taiwanese scene :<<< Great for e-sports though.

If only we had any indication what level the taiwanese scene is at :D
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
MattyClutch
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States711 Posts
March 21 2011 19:31 GMT
#42
On March 22 2011 02:11 Leolisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 01:19 Cadgers wrote:
Are there no Zergs in Taiwan(other than Sen ofc)? So far every player has been T or P in this VOD.

This is one of the biggest problems that TeSL is facing. In Taiwan for some reason Protoss is by far the most popular race, followed by Terran. Right now I believe out of 19 players there are only 2 maybe 3 zergs. There are 1 or 2 random players though (most noteably DS or Demon Sheep of Hwayi Spider). I hear coaches are trying to encourage some protoss players to switch over to other races for the good of the whole league


Interesting. I wonder how that worked out? That said with a league in place I bet they can convince a few to switch over.
Nihn'kas Neehn
BanelingMalt
Profile Joined November 2010
Taiwan42 Posts
March 22 2011 04:07 GMT
#43
On March 22 2011 03:54 Wesso wrote:
Looks awesome! Around what skilllevel are the players?


In terms of GSL players, I would say there are about 1-2 mid to upper level code A players, 2-4 other players who could make it into code A, and the rest would be so-called Code B players but improving fast~
Banelings drink your milkshake
BanelingMalt
Profile Joined November 2010
Taiwan42 Posts
March 22 2011 04:10 GMT
#44
On March 22 2011 04:31 MattyClutch wrote:

Interesting. I wonder how that worked out? That said with a league in place I bet they can convince a few to switch over.


Its hard because the teams have a lot of pressure to win, so when it comes to encouraging playesr to switch races the long term interest of the league (it would be better to have a healthy mix of races) is conflicted with the short term interests of the team (a player switching to an off race will likely have a hard time for a while).
Banelings drink your milkshake
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
March 22 2011 04:17 GMT
#45
On March 22 2011 03:46 Sen wrote:
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On March 22 2011 02:55 Azarkon wrote:
Personally speaking, what I'm worried about with respect to Sen leaving Fnatic for TESL is that he'll participate in non-Taiwanese foreigner tournaments less.

i think no matter what Team i am i will participate in as much international tour as i can in the future


Ah, good to hear that
Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
March 22 2011 04:17 GMT
#46
When I heard this I was ecstatic for the sc2 scene in Tawain. I think Asia might see a boom or atleast a very positive step forward with Sc2. According to Jinro he says that SC2 scene in S-Korea is getting bigger everyday, China will soon have SC2, and now this.

Nothing but great things can come of this.
"Skills to pay the bills" - Artosis, https://twitter.com/AegeisSC2 ,http://www.tumblr.com/blog/socal-esports
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
March 22 2011 04:21 GMT
#47
please keep us updated. Would be really cool to have a GSL like live stream for this league. I love the Gama Bears ^^

It's funny because Taiwan has team names that a person can easily relate to like Spiders, Jets, Bears, and Ironmen. On the other hand the Korean team names are very ambiguous and hard to relate to. For our Utopia, oGs, TSL, Wemade Fox. Cute.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
March 22 2011 04:32 GMT
#48
I am REALLY interested in watching games from this league, hope there will be streams or the like. great to see more leagues, I don't want to see SC2 eventually becoming isolated in korea like sc1
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
chennis
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan227 Posts
March 22 2011 04:42 GMT
#49
Gogo Taoyuan Jets! From my hometown =]
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
March 22 2011 04:45 GMT
#50
On March 22 2011 00:50 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
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On March 21 2011 23:55 Leolisk wrote:
On March 21 2011 23:51 JoxxOr wrote:
Are there any kind of vods?

I'm extremely happy to know that esport is growing in taiwan as well and hopefully an english site can be created or atleast a stream that broadcasts the games to Euros/Americans/Koreans. Good luck with everything and i wish everyone great success


Currently VODs are not being released because they want to protect the strategies of the players, but they are considering it.

Hm, that doesnt make sense - people are watching the games on TV anyway so how can you protect the strats -.-?

Or do you mean replays?

Hmmm. Might be referring to replays.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
March 22 2011 04:46 GMT
#51
Epic epic epic :D

Hurray for eSports!

To be critical, if Sen really is "dominating" them (probably an exageration) then the players are probably not that good. Not that good meaning Code B or may be even a little lower. It should still be interesting, but yea it seems they'll be sort of off on their own community. Which I guess is good. But hopefully they will also catch up to the Koreans like the other foreigners are :D
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Mashes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada441 Posts
March 22 2011 04:46 GMT
#52
Wow, thanks for the pictures snatcch! That practice facility looks top notch!
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery"
SiCkO_
Profile Joined September 2010
United States481 Posts
March 22 2011 04:47 GMT
#53
This looks amazing, the fact that they have a team league thats well developed is really awesome!


cant wait to see when this takes off
SKT Toss line Fighting! | Bisu, BeSt, By.Sun! |
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
March 22 2011 04:50 GMT
#54
Any Taiwanese people who can restream? It's really cool that they're focused around a team league, seems to be a bit like the Korean BW scene.
FrostyTreats
Profile Joined January 2011
United States355 Posts
March 22 2011 04:53 GMT
#55
i can see the future...
The battle between the better breed of asian SC2 players
Taiwan vs Korea.
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
March 22 2011 05:37 GMT
#56
SICK! I'm Taiwanese but I don't think I have the citizenship lol... Its so awesome how the e-sports scene is taking place everywhere around the globe
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
March 22 2011 05:54 GMT
#57
Watched the match between softball and croly (?). Despite not completely polished mechanics the gameplay is still solid and quite fun to watch. Will be following softball in the future hope this league gets more notice on TL
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
March 22 2011 05:57 GMT
#58
awesome to hear. global esports sc2 here we come!
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
March 22 2011 06:03 GMT
#59
Exciting news. Hopefully the skill of Taiwanese players increases to the point where they can send out players to play in international tourneys like MLG. I'd like to see what softball can do. Even though it's a small time operation now, this sort of stable gaming environment can only be good for the growth of esports.
Samhax
Profile Joined August 2010
1054 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 06:09:30
March 22 2011 06:08 GMT
#60
On March 22 2011 13:46 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Epic epic epic :D

Hurray for eSports!

To be critical, if Sen really is "dominating" them (probably an exageration) then the players are probably not that good. Not that good meaning Code B or may be even a little lower. It should still be interesting, but yea it seems they'll be sort of off on their own community. Which I guess is good. But hopefully they will also catch up to the Koreans like the other foreigners are :D


I don't agree Sen for me is easily code S material, he almot defeated Nestea in ZvZ which is huge (Nestea is the best ZvZ player in the world and maybe the best Z in the world) and i think he throw up a little bit his match because he wanted to go back in Taiwan. So even if Sen is dominating the sc2 scene in Taiwan that doesn't mean there aren't some code A material. And we all know what a code A can do in a tournament in Europe (Hi Ace).
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