EPT[GSL March] Up & Down Day 3 - Page 96
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HAUER
Denmark208 Posts
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DayDayTV
Canada20 Posts
On March 17 2011 16:33 slidero wrote: whos playing in the up and down matches in a few hours? Group G: SuperNoVa(T), PoltPrime(T), TheBestf0u(T) Group H: IMLoSirA(Z), BanBansZenith(P), ST_RainBOw(T) | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
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bennyaus
Australia1833 Posts
On March 17 2011 16:49 Lylat wrote: So MVP is in code A ? Come on this is ridiculous! This 'up and down' system is terrible :/ He lost 2 Bo1s vs July, and 2 Bo3s vs Alicia and Genius respectively in a row. It is his own fault. | ||
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Zerguru
31 Posts
On March 17 2011 16:49 Lylat wrote: So MVP is in code A ? Come on this is ridiculous! This 'up and down' system is terrible :/ The worst part is, if he gets a toss in R1 of code A he's pretty much out of GSL, especially if it ends up being someone real tough like ImSeed. I truly don't think it's possible to beat a decent toss who uses templar/chargelots and there are so many ways to survive to that point ie: dts, phoenixes, defensive collosus. Personally i mass zealots and rush charge if I see barracks builds and go phoenixes vs any banshee openings. I know these progamers practice like 10 hours a day, so you'd think MVP would've practiced a lot of mech builds after losing team league to squirtle and watching him 7-0 terran players. If I were a progamer I certainly wouldn't keep trying to use bio vs Toss, but Jinro did indicate that mech couldnt really last in TVP either after taking out MC using it in season 4. I'd like to see someone really good try a build using 6 factories 2 reactors to pump out blue flame hellions all game, and 4 tech for tanks and thors and max upgrade mech. I think it could work if the player was really really good and made sure to keep the thors alive and sacrifice the hellions and keep pumping em out all game like you would with marines. Also want to pump out scvs all game for repairs on thors. I tried it 4 times lost all 4 games couldnt quite get it going, too much gas/ hard to get the thor count up(i think you would have to harrass with blue flame a ton to buy time). Also I suck and don't play terran anymore. If I were MVP I'd be practicing only mech builds 10 hours a day or practicing as Toss or Zerg, he's such a sick player I think he could pull off a race switch to avoid getting knocked out of code a. | ||
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IMbad
Norway24 Posts
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Flaunt
New Zealand784 Posts
On March 17 2011 17:52 Zerguru wrote: The worst part is, if he gets a toss in R1 of code A he's pretty much out of GSL, especially if it ends up being someone real tough like ImSeed. I truly don't think it's possible to beat a decent toss who uses templar/chargelots and there are so many ways to survive to that point ie: dts, phoenixes, defensive collosus. Personally i mass zealots and rush charge if I see barracks builds and go phoenixes vs any banshee openings. I know these progamers practice like 10 hours a day, so you'd think MVP would've practiced a lot of mech builds after losing team league to squirtle and watching him 7-0 terran players. If I were a progamer I certainly wouldn't keep trying to use bio vs Toss, but Jinro did indicate that mech couldnt really last in TVP either after taking out MC using it in season 4. I'd like to see someone really good try a build using 6 factories 2 reactors to pump out blue flame hellions all game, and 4 tech for tanks and thors and max upgrade mech. I think it could work if the player was really really good and made sure to keep the thors alive and sacrifice the hellions and keep pumping em out all game like you would with marines. Also want to pump out scvs all game for repairs on thors. I tried it 4 times lost all 4 games couldnt quite get it going, too much gas/ hard to get the thor count up(i think you would have to harrass with blue flame a ton to buy time). Also I suck and don't play terran anymore. If I were MVP I'd be practicing only mech builds 10 hours a day or practicing as Toss or Zerg, he's such a sick player I think he could pull off a race switch to avoid getting knocked out of code a. shutup with the imbalance crap. MVP won't lose to anyone in group A becuase the skill gap is too big. You can't even luck wins against MVP and Genius is just a really good player. | ||
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ranjutan
United States636 Posts
On March 17 2011 17:52 Zerguru wrote: The worst part is, if he gets a toss in R1 of code A he's pretty much out of GSL, especially if it ends up being someone real tough like ImSeed. I truly don't think it's possible to beat a decent toss who uses templar/chargelots and there are so many ways to survive to that point ie: dts, phoenixes, defensive collosus. Personally i mass zealots and rush charge if I see barracks builds and go phoenixes vs any banshee openings. I know these progamers practice like 10 hours a day, so you'd think MVP would've practiced a lot of mech builds after losing team league to squirtle and watching him 7-0 terran players. If I were a progamer I certainly wouldn't keep trying to use bio vs Toss, but Jinro did indicate that mech couldnt really last in TVP either after taking out MC using it in season 4. I'd like to see someone really good try a build using 6 factories 2 reactors to pump out blue flame hellions all game, and 4 tech for tanks and thors and max upgrade mech. I think it could work if the player was really really good and made sure to keep the thors alive and sacrifice the hellions and keep pumping em out all game like you would with marines. Also want to pump out scvs all game for repairs on thors. I tried it 4 times lost all 4 games couldnt quite get it going, too much gas/ hard to get the thor count up(i think you would have to harrass with blue flame a ton to buy time). Also I suck and don't play terran anymore. If I were MVP I'd be practicing only mech builds 10 hours a day or practicing as Toss or Zerg, he's such a sick player I think he could pull off a race switch to avoid getting knocked out of code a.  | ||
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
On March 17 2011 16:49 Lylat wrote: So MVP is in code A ? Come on this is ridiculous! This 'up and down' system is terrible :/ If anything, the "up and down" system entrenches the good players into Code S. It is very difficult for an S-class player to drop from Code S to Code A. Clearly, MVP's TvP is not S-class, and he managed to lose two TvZs to July to get into the "up and down" matches in the first place. | ||
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Logros
Netherlands9913 Posts
On March 17 2011 16:49 Lylat wrote: So MVP is in code A ? Come on this is ridiculous! This 'up and down' system is terrible :/ No it isn't. It's MVPs fault for losing in his group stage and in 2 Bo3's. If you lose that much in a row you should go down or the players in Code S would never change. | ||
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
On March 17 2011 17:52 Zerguru wrote: The worst part is, if he gets a toss in R1 of code A he's pretty much out of GSL, especially if it ends up being someone real tough like ImSeed. I truly don't think it's possible to beat a decent toss who uses templar/chargelots and there are so many ways to survive to that point ie: dts, phoenixes, defensive collosus. Personally i mass zealots and rush charge if I see barracks builds and go phoenixes vs any banshee openings. I know these progamers practice like 10 hours a day, so you'd think MVP would've practiced a lot of mech builds after losing team league to squirtle and watching him 7-0 terran players. If I were a progamer I certainly wouldn't keep trying to use bio vs Toss, but Jinro did indicate that mech couldnt really last in TVP either after taking out MC using it in season 4. I'd like to see someone really good try a build using 6 factories 2 reactors to pump out blue flame hellions all game, and 4 tech for tanks and thors and max upgrade mech. I think it could work if the player was really really good and made sure to keep the thors alive and sacrifice the hellions and keep pumping em out all game like you would with marines. Also want to pump out scvs all game for repairs on thors. I tried it 4 times lost all 4 games couldnt quite get it going, too much gas/ hard to get the thor count up(i think you would have to harrass with blue flame a ton to buy time). Also I suck and don't play terran anymore. If I were MVP I'd be practicing only mech builds 10 hours a day or practicing as Toss or Zerg, he's such a sick player I think he could pull off a race switch to avoid getting knocked out of code a. 1.3 is likely to be in effect for next GSL changing the HT... Also mass mech has been tried and done alot before. It was quite popular on lost temple... It is alright on the camping maps but overall it isn't that strong. Good tosses simply know how to switch to carriers and make all your mech upgrades nearly useless... I honestly think it is never worth it to get more then 1 mech upgrade, there are simply 0 units in mech that counter air... | ||
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Zerguru
31 Posts
shutup with the imbalance crap. MVP won't lose to anyone in group A becuase the skill gap is too big. You can't even luck wins against MVP and Genius is just a really good player.[/QUOTE] I think ImSeed is a better player than Genius, Alicia is very good. Lot's of great players not qualified for Code A yet. The best players are the ones coming up not the ones coming down that were good in beta (ie:maka, rainbow, hyperdub). MVP could easily lose if he gets a tough Toss round 1. I mean it's fair because its random, but sucks that the ha best terran would be out of GSL, while someone like Rain gets code S because he got Hyperdub in his group and MVP would've rolled all 3 of those terrans. | ||
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Pewt
Canada201 Posts
On March 17 2011 09:18 IVN wrote: Terrans were dominating up till now with nothing but T1 units all game long, so its no wonder not 1 terran knows how to use mech. Give it time, and youll see that mech is good. Drops and nydus, am I right? (on a side note, you can't call 3/3 ups nor medivacs T1, and Terrans have not exactly shown an unwillingness to adapt in the other matchups) | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On March 17 2011 17:59 Flaunt wrote: shutup with the imbalance crap. MVP won't lose to anyone in group A becuase the skill gap is too big. You can't even luck wins against MVP and Genius is just a really good player. Balance Aside, I could definitely see MVP losing to IMSeed (I am willing to bet they have reasonable records against each other in practice) or another strong player. As we've seen in the Team League, there's a lot of really really good players out there that aren't code S or even A yet. Also, the current metagame is going to be dropped on its head when the patch hits, which it very well might before next season. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
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usethis2
2164 Posts
On March 17 2011 03:07 PartyBiscuit wrote: You also can't rule out the curse of the MarineKing, the harder you roll MKP the more you get screwed in the following season. Here's the proof (j/k but srs at the same time). - Nestea beats him in Season 2: 4-3 in the finals -> Close series, Nestea merely gets a surprise beat by Rain in Round of 8/ - Kyrix beats him 2-0 in All-Stars Finals -> Only a Bo3, but if MKP doesn't get at least a game off, it's wrath time -> Kyrix eliminated next season in Round of 64. - MC beats him 3-1 in Round of 8 Season 3: 3-1 -> Not bad, but MC gets 2-0'd by Jinro in the following season at the Round of 16 to what was a shock at the time. - Mvp rolls in GSL4: 4-0 -> MVP goes 1-2 in Groups, and now 1-4 in up/down and is in Code A. - sCfou, you're next. Rofl. So true. Indeed Koreans have been joking about the curse of the forever-2nd (MKP). | ||
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Striding Strider
United Kingdom787 Posts
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Poopi
France12911 Posts
I don't think he'll drop from code A, I except him to crush anyone (except maybe Bomber if he qualifies). | ||
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zyglrox
United States1168 Posts
On March 16 2011 19:40 aScle wrote: I predict there will be alot of PvPs in code s -_- how lovely that'd be  | ||
bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
On March 17 2011 16:49 Lylat wrote: So MVP is in code A ? Come on this is ridiculous! This 'up and down' system is terrible :/ Lol on what basis do you make that claim!? Did you watch the games - do you know how he ended up there.. MVP - the zerg killer - got knocked down by July into the Up/Down matches where he proceeded to lose TWO Bo3's .. How is this the systems fault!? He played absolutely terrible! On March 17 2011 17:52 Zerguru wrote: The worst part is, if he gets a toss in R1 of code A he's pretty much out of GSL, especially if it ends up being someone real tough like ImSeed. I truly don't think it's possible to beat a decent toss who uses templar/chargelots and there are so many ways to survive to that point ie: dts, phoenixes, defensive collosus. Personally i mass zealots and rush charge if I see barracks builds and go phoenixes vs any banshee openings. I know these progamers practice like 10 hours a day, so you'd think MVP would've practiced a lot of mech builds after losing team league to squirtle and watching him 7-0 terran players. If I were a progamer I certainly wouldn't keep trying to use bio vs Toss, but Jinro did indicate that mech couldnt really last in TVP either after taking out MC using it in season 4. I'd like to see someone really good try a build using 6 factories 2 reactors to pump out blue flame hellions all game, and 4 tech for tanks and thors and max upgrade mech. I think it could work if the player was really really good and made sure to keep the thors alive and sacrifice the hellions and keep pumping em out all game like you would with marines. Also want to pump out scvs all game for repairs on thors. I tried it 4 times lost all 4 games couldnt quite get it going, too much gas/ hard to get the thor count up(i think you would have to harrass with blue flame a ton to buy time). Also I suck and don't play terran anymore. If I were MVP I'd be practicing only mech builds 10 hours a day or practicing as Toss or Zerg, he's such a sick player I think he could pull off a race switch to avoid getting knocked out of code a. Man oh man - you really need to read the mod warning at the top of this thread; why put so much effort into a balance whine? Seriously c'mon! | ||
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