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merz
Sweden2760 Posts
On April 24 2011 01:40 namste wrote: I don't think the brackets are posted anywhere, at least I haven't been able to find them. Sorry in advance = ( http://www.copenhagengames.com/r/22/bracket/ramme.php?file=Razer_Domination_slut.htm | ||
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dubRa
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NemEU
United Kingdom30 Posts
On April 24 2011 01:38 KristianJS wrote: Yeah, I really do agree. Good forcefields literally eliminate micro from battles...I mean why would Blizzard think that's a good idea? I dont think you understand what micro means... A protoss player having good forcefields *IS* the protoss player having good micro. The zerg players micro would be not getting trapped and not engaging in disadvantages positions like in chokes or on MCs ramp. If the ff goes down and the zerg is trapped that means the micro already happened and the protoss players micro was better. | ||
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Jarvs
Australia639 Posts
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On April 24 2011 01:40 namste wrote: I don't think the brackets are posted anywhere, at least I haven't been able to find them. Sorry in advance = ( What? It's in the OP. http://sett.fi/?q=node/924 | ||
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TT1
Canada10045 Posts
On April 24 2011 01:28 Numy wrote: I thought Sheth also is meant to have a really sick ZvP? yea sheth is good.. but sen is really really really good : D he plays/thinks like an sc1 zerg and has the most diverse style of any of the foreigner z's, he understands every mu so well and has so many builds which in turn makes him really unpredictable because he adapts his style given to wat situation hes in and understands how to optimize his style to the fullest vs w/e his opponent is doing basically he has the same level of execution as any of the top foreigner z's but his understanding of the game is above all the other zerg users imo | ||
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
On April 24 2011 01:37 Cripp wrote: It's so funny that no one gives MC credit for taking the series. He only won because he is playing Toss right? It seems like if Toss wins it's always because of the race, never because the player played actually good. Think about it. I think it is kinda the opposite. If this was say another Protoss that just happened to play this well, then the balance would complaints would come out of the woodworks, but just because it is MC, there isn't a lot of leg room for people to complain even though they want to. But again, it is one of the more unfortunate casualities of the perception of imbalance in the community, good play by the race that is "op" and poor play from the race that is "not imba" is often overlooked. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On April 24 2011 01:41 desderak wrote: slightly OT, but how much SC2 is there today? Christ TSL, Copenhagen, Stars War, NASL, IGN, FXOpen.. Crazy stuff pretty exhausting yeah... you forgot GSL and TheGathering ^_^ | ||
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aScle
Australia375 Posts
On April 24 2011 01:38 KristianJS wrote: Yeah, I really do agree. Good forcefields literally eliminate micro from battles...I mean why would Blizzard think that's a good idea? Please put your balance talk in the b.net forums. Also you realize that in that match forcefields never entirely eliminated all micro from battles as burrowed roaches are one of the few units that move through them. | ||
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diverzee
Sweden992 Posts
On April 24 2011 01:38 NemEU wrote: I keep hearing people on here bitching about ff or imbalance in this mu. I have no idea which series you guys were watching but MC is just absurdly good. At no point in any of the games he won was he remotely close to losing, he always had his units in the right place, never out of position, always the right units. This attitude is poison in the Sc2 community people are more ready to choose imbalance as the reason for a players success over skill, which is just stupid. Zerg players are particuluarly guilty of this, and I think its due to a really vocal minority which since early in the beta have been hell bent on convincing the community that zerg is this shitty race that just somehow bizzarely happens to have all the best players top to bottom. The only reason they have any success is because they are the best, and if they played p/t they would never lose a game. Seriously even mediocre ladder players are possessed of this ridiculas notion. MC is just that good. Or the the majority of zerg players, as well as non-biased, non-zerg players (I wonder what race they play) focus their attention towards protoss for a reason. If the very majority of balance complaints are directed towards a particular matchup, with other mathcups' complaints being much lesser in frequency, it may point towards that particular matchup looking very uneven at the current state of the game. | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
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massivez
Belgium653 Posts
On April 24 2011 01:38 NemEU wrote: I keep hearing people on here bitching about ff or imbalance in this mu. I have no idea which series you guys were watching but MC is just absurdly good. At no point in any of the games he won was he remotely close to losing, he always had his units in the right place, never out of position, always the right units. This attitude is poison in the Sc2 community people are more ready to choose imbalance as the reason for a players success over skill, which is just stupid. Zerg players are particuluarly guilty of this, and I think its due to a really vocal minority which since early in the beta have been hell bent on convincing the community that zerg is this shitty race that just somehow bizzarely happens to have all the best players top to bottom. The only reason they have any success is because they are the best, and if they played p/t they would never lose a game. Seriously even mediocre ladder players are possessed of this ridiculas notion. MC is just that good. Its true that MC is good, and i think nobody is taking something away from him. But the thing still stands that no zerg atm is even getting close in too getting a shot for winning a major tournament. Also following you're logic, that means every zerg player is 2 steps down the rest of the races in terms of skill (wich is wrong). | ||
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Steamroller
Finland756 Posts
On April 24 2011 01:41 TYJ.Aoy wrote: According to tyler everything morrow did was bad, he knows, right? No. | ||
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hdi
Bulgaria9 Posts
Also here: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Copenhagen_Games_Spring_2011 | ||
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Feridan
Denmark33 Posts
On April 24 2011 01:41 rushian wrote: great post.. I guess some of it just standard raging that their favourite player lost.. I mean morrow couldn't have gotten outplayed, there must be something wrong with the game instead right? Except that we can't tell the difference between what MC is doing and what Cruncher or any other protoss does. Build 4 unit types, spam FF, be in the right position. Why shouldn't protoss ever have to mix it up? | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
People need to stop doing it as protoss get better at forcefield this kind of army. The combinaison of Forcefield and 9range Colossi is so perfect against midrange units. | ||
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OnlineHero
Denmark647 Posts
On April 24 2011 01:43 The KY wrote: Pretty impressed Grubby beat TLO. Were those games broadcasted and were they any good? Yep they were casted. They were decent I guess. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On April 24 2011 01:42 TT1 wrote: yea sheth is good.. but sen is really really really good : D he plays/thinks like an sc1 zerg and has the most diverse style of any of the foreigner z's, he understands every mu so well and has so many builds which in turn makes him really unpredictable because he adapts his style given wat situation hes in and understands how to optimize his style to the fullest vs w/e his opponent is doing basically he has the same level of execution as any of the top foreigner z's but his understanding of the game is above all the other zerg users imo Wonder who TT1 loses to in practice matches  | ||
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.Enigma.
Sweden1461 Posts
On April 24 2011 01:41 hitman133 wrote: With out FF, Protoss can't stop Terran and Zerg, think about it. MMM just gonna kite Zealots all day, Zerglings and baneling just run straight to Protoss expensive units. And if you think FF is easy to do? Try it, 1 miss FF could cost you the game. It's not easy to get such good FFs as MC is placing, but it honestly isn't the hardest thing in the world either. They're still impressive though. | ||
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Lennon
United Kingdom2275 Posts
On April 24 2011 01:43 aScle wrote: Please put your balance talk in the b.net forums. Also you realize that in that match forcefields never entirely eliminated all micro from battles as burrowed roaches are one of the few units that move through them. It's more about the idea that watching Roaches burrowing away for their lives over and over again makes micro battles boring regardless of balance. | ||
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