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KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
April 23 2011 16:38 GMT
#2821
On April 24 2011 01:36 AxionSteel wrote:
I hate forcefields. Such a boring ability.



Yeah, I really do agree. Good forcefields literally eliminate micro from battles...I mean why would Blizzard think that's a good idea?
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
Andytaker
Profile Joined April 2011
88 Posts
April 23 2011 16:38 GMT
#2822
--- Nuked ---
DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
April 23 2011 16:39 GMT
#2823
On April 24 2011 01:32 Breach_hu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 01:31 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
Maybe the roaches regen rate should be higher to combat the FF?


or they should be 1 supply units perhaps?


^^
OnlineHero
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark647 Posts
April 23 2011 16:39 GMT
#2824
On April 24 2011 01:37 Titorelli wrote:
When will the Grubby destruction by Kas commence? Kas vs MC finals would be aweeeesome. Kas' TvP is incredible and isn't MC's PvT his weakest MU? GOGOG Vamos Kas!!!!!


Yep he just got destroyed in the GSL by Polt.
<3
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
April 23 2011 16:39 GMT
#2825
Can someone please tell me where i can find the brackets? Thx in advance = )
Chicken gank op
Lexxes
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden144 Posts
April 23 2011 16:39 GMT
#2826
On April 24 2011 01:34 gnutz wrote:
Spanishiwa is the only Zerg who could take off a series against MC

...

If he had the micro and macro of Morrow



agree, merge morrow and spanishiwa, and u got the perfect zerg
If you dont do it, someone else will
OnlineHero
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark647 Posts
April 23 2011 16:40 GMT
#2827
On April 24 2011 01:39 Belha wrote:
Can someone please tell me where i can find the brackets? Thx in advance = )


Page 1 of this thread..
<3
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
April 23 2011 16:40 GMT
#2828
On April 24 2011 01:38 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 01:37 Bobster wrote:
Just for consideration: Morrow went Roach/Hydra three times and lost three times, he went Zergling drops once and won that map.

Maybe Roach/Hydra isn't the way to go after all? I know that Morrow has said that this "overpowering" style is the one he has had the most success with, but going 2-7 against MC in the last three weeks... ouch.


The drop worked because MC didn't expect it, not because it has a higher success chance than roaches.


Also, MC is "the best player in the world" so it's not surprising that MorroW is losing in a standard versus standard game.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
April 23 2011 16:40 GMT
#2829
Although Morrow lost, was anyone impressed with his macro? Especially in game 2 I felt he macroed so well, just that the strategy he chose was wrong.

Well he used to play bw so it isn't too surprising.
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
April 23 2011 16:40 GMT
#2830
On April 24 2011 01:37 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 01:34 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
On April 24 2011 01:33 noezke wrote:
I know i'm probably inviting flames, but what exactly is so impressive about forcefield placement? :S


The protoss players life hangs on perfect forcefields.

Meh, I see those so called "perfect forcefields" every ZvP, be the protoss mc or naniwa or cruncher or jackthesurfer, I wonder why.

Because commentators overhype things. You most certainly can fail hard with your FFs, as any Protoss player can attest.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
April 23 2011 16:40 GMT
#2831
On April 24 2011 01:37 Bobster wrote:
Just for consideration: Morrow went Roach/Hydra three times and lost three times, he went Zergling drops once and won that map.

Maybe Roach/Hydra isn't the way to go after all? I know that Morrow has said that this "overpowering" style is the one he has had the most success with, but going 2-7 against MC in the last three weeks... ouch.

The ling/bling drop was just a specific counter to forge expand, and it's effectiveness was enhanced tenfolds by MC going for an unusual air build. I don't even want to call it a cheese, it's simply a counter to forge expand.

Doing that against 3 gate expand with a ton of sentries would be insanity.
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
April 23 2011 16:40 GMT
#2832
On April 24 2011 01:39 Belha wrote:
Can someone please tell me where i can find the brackets? Thx in advance = )


I don't think the brackets are posted anywhere, at least I haven't been able to find them. Sorry in advance = (
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
April 23 2011 16:41 GMT
#2833
http://sett.fi/?q=node/924 bracket
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
TYJ.Aoy
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil1265 Posts
April 23 2011 16:41 GMT
#2834
On April 24 2011 01:40 Dante08 wrote:
Although Morrow lost, was anyone impressed with his macro? Especially in game 2 I felt he macroed so well, just that the strategy he chose was wrong.

Well he used to play bw so it isn't too surprising.

According to tyler everything morrow did was bad, he knows, right?
rushian
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom568 Posts
April 23 2011 16:41 GMT
#2835
On April 24 2011 01:38 NemEU wrote:
I keep hearing people on here bitching about ff or imbalance in this mu. I have no idea which series you guys were watching but MC is just absurdly good. At no point in any of the games he won was he remotely close to losing, he always had his units in the right place, never out of position, always the right units.

This attitude is poison in the Sc2 community people are more ready to choose imbalance as the reason for a players success over skill, which is just stupid. Zerg players are particuluarly guilty of this, and I think its due to a really vocal minority which since early in the beta have been hell bent on convincing the community that zerg is this shitty race that just somehow bizzarely happens to have all the best players top to bottom. The only reason they have any success is because they are the best, and if they played p/t they would never lose a game. Seriously even mediocre ladder players are possessed of this ridiculas notion.

MC is just that good.

great post.. I guess some of it just standard raging that their favourite player lost.. I mean morrow couldn't have gotten outplayed, there must be something wrong with the game instead right?
"Love every protoss unit" - oGsMC
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
April 23 2011 16:41 GMT
#2836
Wow these games sure are exciting as hell. Protoss does some opening. Zerg usually uses roaches and does some aggression with them that is completely nullified. Guess what happens some point in the game? COLOSSUS! Then the zerg loses. This is what I call esports.
desderak
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom206 Posts
April 23 2011 16:41 GMT
#2837
slightly OT, but how much SC2 is there today? Christ

TSL, Copenhagen, Stars War, NASL, IGN, FXOpen.. Crazy stuff
Demonaz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1219 Posts
April 23 2011 16:41 GMT
#2838
Yes we cannot put that one down to imbalance at all, sure the pvz match arguably favours protoss a little, but people forget that MC is incredible and all this 'omg zerg can never win' stuff is getting rather tiresome. If there is an issue it'll be worked out or patched, going on about in LR threads is POINTLESS.
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
April 23 2011 16:41 GMT
#2839
On April 24 2011 01:36 AxionSteel wrote:
I hate forcefields. Such a boring ability. Makes zerg and terran armies impossible to micro, certainly good for a game.

With out FF, Protoss can't stop Terran and Zerg, think about it. MMM just gonna kite Zealots all day, Zerglings and baneling just run straight to Protoss expensive units. And if you think FF is easy to do? Try it, 1 miss FF could cost you the game.
StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
April 23 2011 16:42 GMT
#2840
On April 24 2011 01:36 Orome wrote:
Holy shit MC. Of course you can point out MC's initial sentry zealot attack not being safe at all, but at the end of the day MC executes whatever he decides to do 2 levels above every other P atm.


I feel like it's pretty safe, but pretty reliant on FF placement/control. Especially on a map with lots of walls to keep up against, and fairly short walk distance and centralised xel naga towers.

Forcefields lets you retreat from non-speed roaches.
Zealots+Sentries kill lings dead with good FF/control.
Only thing would be mass speed lings might be dangerous but Morrow has been playing greedy all day + speed ling isn't really a good response after he scouted expand.


Killing the Queen/forcing roaches made his stargate follow up so much better.
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