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[GCPL Semi Final] Dignitas vs EG - Page 29

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JimSocks
Profile Joined February 2009
United States968 Posts
March 13 2011 19:53 GMT
#561
if he switched races months ago instead of qq he would be top form again already.
DBrave
Profile Joined December 2010
Serbia379 Posts
March 13 2011 19:53 GMT
#562
Idra isn't just another player.
He makes watching tournaments interesting.

wp, nice games !
gg wp
Almtom
Profile Joined May 2009
Sweden132 Posts
March 13 2011 19:53 GMT
#563
Idra is a fucking joke, Zerg isnt imbalanced, Idra is just sucha looser. Other zergs are having success because they are "lucky" or because their opponent "suck" but wait when these "sucky" opponents ROFLstomp Idra they are just imbalanced.... what is wrong with this guy?
Sobba
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden576 Posts
March 13 2011 19:53 GMT
#564
You need the tier 3 tech so the corrupters are not uselss after the switch to immortals. Takes alot of time thou :/
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
March 13 2011 19:54 GMT
#565
On March 14 2011 04:52 Bill Murray wrote:
Honestly, Idra can only blame himself for having 1700 minerals, 200 gas, and no drones on extractors at his 3rd and 4th

when he died he basically still had 1k floating, and bad rallys


Yeah, except that he lost hatches/queens so he couldnt actually spend the money due to having no larva, and even if he could have 1k worth of hydras or whatever wouldn't be enough to save him anyway.
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
March 13 2011 19:54 GMT
#566
I really feel for Idra. Throughout the game I definitely thought that the protoss had a much easier time and that Idra was outplaying Naniwa. Despite that he still lost, due to the 200/200 death ball. Pretty fucking boring.
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
March 13 2011 19:54 GMT
#567
On March 14 2011 04:52 cyprin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 04:51 ftd.rain wrote:
On March 14 2011 04:50 MBH wrote:
Has Idra ever blamed himself for a loss and written "gg" hehe...

He really played much better than Naniwa, maybe he could try a different approach, but playing zerg is really unrewarding in these type of maps, especially against protoss.



60 food ahead at one point, protoss just sits on one base and a-moves.
i don't know why people say hydras are good vs protoss, they lose to stalker balls really bad.


yeah, so protoss should move out with 60 supply behind and a weaker army.

wat
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
March 13 2011 19:54 GMT
#568
On March 14 2011 04:52 cyprin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 04:51 ftd.rain wrote:
On March 14 2011 04:50 MBH wrote:
Has Idra ever blamed himself for a loss and written "gg" hehe...

He really played much better than Naniwa, maybe he could try a different approach, but playing zerg is really unrewarding in these type of maps, especially against protoss.



60 food ahead at one point, protoss just sits on one base and a-moves.
i don't know why people say hydras are good vs protoss, they lose to stalker balls really bad.


There were way more stalkers than hydras towards the end. IdrA was gas blocked really badly. Not sure why he was missing those drones at the gas. I didn't see the whole game so there might be a valid reason for that though.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
March 13 2011 19:54 GMT
#569
On March 14 2011 04:50 Telcontar wrote:
Maybe Axslav would've been a smarter choice.


In a PvP vs Nani? I dunno man, outside of MC Nani's the one guy I'd actually bet on in a PvP
GameTime
Profile Joined May 2010
United States222 Posts
March 13 2011 19:54 GMT
#570
Anyone else notice how Idra was really mineral high towards the end? It's because 2 expansions (the ones near the lower xel naga tower) both had gas geysers with extractors but Idra didn't put guys in the gas so he couldn't make the hydras he needed to.
Only the winner deserves to win.
Anomandaris
Profile Joined July 2010
Afghanistan440 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-13 19:56:36
March 13 2011 19:54 GMT
#571
On a serious note: Protoss 3 base turtle into colossi stalker is the most common strat on that map. Zerg deals with it by :
a) basetrading (EG. machine vs Nani on SP)
b) researching drop (Moon vs Squirtle on SP).
c) lategame baneling bombs using (showmatch between Morrow and nani)

Idra did none of it and looked 3 months behind on the metagame.

Edit: Idra not putting worker on gas in his fourth and fifth base lost him the game. His second expansion was a dubious choice: it should have been elsewhere.
SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
March 13 2011 19:54 GMT
#572
On March 14 2011 04:52 flodeskum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 04:49 blade55555 wrote:
On March 14 2011 04:48 N3rV[Green] wrote:
Why do zergs make soooo many useless corrupters is they see a few colossi? I'm getting worried for Idra.....


Because if you don't then you get fucked up by colossi. You either make too much just so you have a chance, or make too few and you instant lose.

wp'd by nani grats dignitas.

It's really hard to hit that "correct" corrupter number. But sadly Idra went way to far there. That was probably around 20 hydras worth of useless corruptors.



He cannot blindly predict how many colossi will be present when the engagement happens. If you go too light on the corrupters you will lose more often than when you go too heavy on the corrupters.
relyt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1073 Posts
March 13 2011 19:54 GMT
#573
On March 14 2011 04:53 Almtom wrote:
Idra is a fucking joke, Zerg isnt imbalanced, Idra is just sucha looser. Other zergs are having success because they are "lucky" or because their opponent "suck" but wait when these "sucky" opponents ROFLstomp Idra they are just imbalanced.... what is wrong with this guy?

Come on man, no need to bash the players.
MBH
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland796 Posts
March 13 2011 19:54 GMT
#574
So Shakuras cross position is nowadays unrewarding for Zerg aswell...intresting...
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
March 13 2011 19:54 GMT
#575
skååååååååneeeetosssssssssss
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
March 13 2011 19:54 GMT
#576
On March 14 2011 04:54 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 04:50 Telcontar wrote:
Maybe Axslav would've been a smarter choice.


In a PvP vs Nani? I dunno man, outside of MC Nani's the one guy I'd actually bet on in a PvP

What about socke?
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
TazzDingo
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany502 Posts
March 13 2011 19:54 GMT
#577
On March 14 2011 04:51 Sneakyz wrote:
I find Idra's decision making regarding when to engage the toss in a fight is really weird.

what? he gave up a base to get some open field there. what else can he do? run away vs blink stalkers and then fight in the same situation (an open field) with even less units? now THAT'd be really weird ^^,
zyglrox
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1168 Posts
March 13 2011 19:55 GMT
#578
On March 14 2011 04:52 cyprin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 04:51 ftd.rain wrote:
On March 14 2011 04:50 MBH wrote:
Has Idra ever blamed himself for a loss and written "gg" hehe...

He really played much better than Naniwa, maybe he could try a different approach, but playing zerg is really unrewarding in these type of maps, especially against protoss.



60 food ahead at one point, protoss just sits on one base and a-moves.
i don't know why people say hydras are good vs protoss, they lose to stalker balls really bad.



yea, even as a toss player that game was kind of depressing. i could see it coming from a mile away, but i did not want to believe it. wonder what the nani's upgrades were at though, that could be a reason why his stalkers simply wouldn't die.
champagne for my real friends, and real pain for my sham friends.
Ertu
Profile Joined November 2010
Greece686 Posts
March 13 2011 19:55 GMT
#579
Despite being terran,I can really get the frustration Idra faced,I mean I thought he was one step ahead of naniwa the whole game, and u can't just NOT build corruptors or the toss will roflstomp u with colossi. I think Z has to start becoming more aggresive early game vs P, or he will get rolled over eventually.
shaunnn
Profile Joined October 2010
Ireland1230 Posts
March 13 2011 19:55 GMT
#580
Idra said it himself, he just isnt practising enough because he doesnt like the state of the game atm, that mineral/gas difference wouldnt not have happened to him if he practised more, reguardless if P deathball is bit stronger, he could have had so many more hydras/roaches out for the last counter attack and just walked over nani
The naniwa - Unit of protoss skill, defined as the number of gates you build off of one base
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