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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
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kukarachaa
United States284 Posts
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Steamroller
Finland756 Posts
On March 18 2011 01:56 Redox wrote: You liked the startale videos because you like the players. Be honest, what could July have said in the video that would have made you dislike it? I suspect there is nothing. From an unbiased, rational perspective they were not very good. They seemed to be done in just one take, reading a few sentences (that were maybe just phonetics) from a paper. For the most sentences I could not make out what they were meant to mean.They were also the shortest videos of all players. That said I dont think that it really matters how good this videos were, nor do I think its necessary for the Koreans to speak English. Just saying that labeling these vids as "impressive, amazing efforts, best video" and so on is nonsense from a neutral observers perspective. Exactly what i think aswell. I think everyone are just happy that they speak any english after all. | ||
Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
113 total Applicants Race makeup: 1 ![]() 33 ![]() 37 ![]() 42 ![]() Server makeup: 19 KR - 6 ![]() ![]() ![]() 28 EU - 9 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 66 NA - 18 ![]() ![]() ![]() *SEA folded into KR, RU folded into EU, LA folded into NA Country makeup: 1 ![]() 1 ![]() 1 ![]() 1 ![]() 1 ![]() 1 ![]() 1 ![]() 1 ![]() 2 ![]() 2 ![]() 3 ![]() 8 ![]() 9 ![]() 18 ![]() 20 ![]() 43 ![]() Counted from here. | ||
TheCrow
Norway296 Posts
On March 18 2011 01:56 Redox wrote: You liked the startale videos because you like the players. Be honest, what could July have said in the video that would have made you dislike it? I suspect there is nothing. From an unbiased, rational perspective they were not very good. They seemed to be done in just one take, reading a few sentences (that were maybe just phonetics) from a paper. For the most sentences I could not make out what they were meant to mean.They were also the shortest videos of all players. That said I dont think that it really matters how good this videos were, nor do I think its necessary for the Koreans to speak English. Just saying that labeling these vids as "impressive, amazing efforts, best video" and so on is nonsense from a neutral observers perspective. Why are you putting words in his mouth, he expressed that he liked the koreans taking notice of the western scene. He never said they were the best videos! Also: stating that you are unbiased and rational doesnt make it so. If the videos are good or not depends on what you define as a good video. Technically they prolly werent the best video's.. low quality resolution etc. But since NASL wants to keep a lot of the focus on players and a narrative around them, player personality becomes important. July is giggling and makes you smile in his video, he seems to be a nice guy you want to see more of... and that makes his video very good in that department. Many foreigner videos have the same qualities, but most of them are of people being quite boring, or rather generic. (my personal opinion). | ||
zasda
381 Posts
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DiaBoLuS
Germany1638 Posts
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() are still missing from EU. ![]() I Hope they get invited anyway. ![]() | ||
Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On March 18 2011 02:47 DiaBoLuS wrote: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() are still missing from EU. ![]() I Hope they get invited anyway. ![]() I would go as far as placing both White-Ra and Kas in the top3 of the EU server, they definitely need to be in. Tarson hasn't been as active lately and I'm not sure Adelscott would make the cut. | ||
applejuice
307 Posts
On March 18 2011 01:57 Tenks wrote: I do not envy the NASL decision making team here. So many great players applying. Based on merit alone they pretty much must let a bunch of Koreans in the tournament. I don't think many who have applied have no accomplishments. Winning Code A of the GSL, imho, is a bigger deal than winning IEM or MLG. me neither I just hope they don't make some arbitrary decision like "we'll take some Koreans, but we don't want too many, so we'll max it at 5". Do ANY of those 19 really not deserve to be in the NASL, based on skill? I hope they understand that SC2 is not some marketing ploy they can turn into reality TV with rivalries and elimination votes. edit: I also thought the korean vids were quite entertaining. It's fun to see them speaking english, and they all seem like nice guys. More entertaining than a lot of foreigner vids, for sure. | ||
turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On March 18 2011 02:54 Bagi wrote: I would go as far as placing both White-Ra and Kas in the top3 of the EU server, they definitely need to be in. Tarson hasn't been as active lately and I'm not sure Adelscott would make the cut. remember only those not privatly invited need to of done their apps by now. im 99% sure they have already talked to white-ra and similar, he will probably get something together sooner or later since they want to show these videos for everyone | ||
Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
Also, there were many more NA players applying compared to EU than I anticipated, tbh. 65 vs 27 is a pretty substantial difference. On March 18 2011 02:54 applejuice wrote: WeMadeFoxSoccer?I just hope they don't make some arbitrary decision like "we'll take some Koreans, but we don't want too many, so we'll max it at 5". Do ANY of those 19 really not deserve to be in the NASL, based on skill? I hope they understand that SC2 is not some marketing ploy they can turn into reality TV with rivalries and elimination votes. Never heard of the guy, personally. :p | ||
Tenks
United States3104 Posts
On March 18 2011 02:54 applejuice wrote: me neither I just hope they don't make some arbitrary decision like "we'll take some Koreans, but we don't want too many, so we'll max it at 5". Do ANY of those 19 really not deserve to be in the NASL, based on skill? I hope they understand that SC2 is not some marketing ploy they can turn into reality TV with rivalries and elimination votes. Based on skill, highly unlikely. Honestly the only Korean who applied that you could make a case against would be Bomber. He has a bunch of hype surrounding him but really hasn't accomplished much. I don't count winning the iCCup map tournament series a "major" accomplishment. However all the others are either Code S players or have finished very high in Code A. Then there are others who almost seem like shoe-in picks simply because they are well known NA players. It almost seems like it comes down to an age-old argument of NFL vs NCAA FB and which people prefer. If you outright want to watch the absolute best football you watch the NFL. If that isn't your primary criteria and you prefer to watch college thats fine as well. I think it comes down to which direction they want to take the NASL. If you want my honest opinion (no one does) NASL stands to make more money if they limit the Korean players and extend most of their invites to top NA/EU players who can speak English. They already said they wish to have the NASL as more of an "experience" instead of just Starcraft games and it is very hard to hype up someone who cannot interact with the public seamlessly. Just my 2¢. Personally, I'd prefer if every Korean who applied got in ![]() -edit- Didn't notice the WeMadeFox guys. You could argue against Soccer with an easy case and you could also have me buy into Moon even though he just got second at IEM -- which is still a better resume than most of the NA/EU applicants. | ||
meijin
United States141 Posts
i hope they purposefully select players for the divisions so they can make as many good matchups/storylines as possible while also having even divisions. e.g. if they take both grubby and moon they HAVE to put them in the same group to guarantee a series between them. probably put zenio in idra's division etc etc. | ||
dunc
Netherlands1105 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On March 18 2011 03:13 meijin wrote: have they announced how they're going to separate players into divisions? is it random? random while minimizing team kills? they just get to cherry pick the best matchups? regional? i hope they purposefully select players for the divisions so they can make as many good matchups/storylines as possible while also having even divisions. e.g. if they take both grubby and moon they HAVE to put them in the same group to guarantee a series between them. probably put zenio in idra's division etc etc. i think minimizing team kills is the first objective. personally im not against mirrors. pvp is a test of micro, zvz can be very tense but fast paced, and tvt is pretty sweet as long as it doesnt turn into tank turtling. | ||
Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On March 18 2011 03:27 turdburgler wrote: i think minimizing team kills is the first objective. personally im not against mirrors. pvp is a test of micro, zvz can be very tense but fast paced, and tvt is pretty sweet as long as it doesnt turn into tank turtling. So basically they have to put Goody in a Z/P only division. :p | ||
teko
Canada1197 Posts
On March 17 2011 20:36 Mise wrote: From what I've heard Hyperdub has the best english in oGs. He didn't aplly though. He goes to Seoul University. Must be a pretty smart kid. I'm surprised he's able to do that while playing SC2 competitively. | ||
antilyon
Brazil2546 Posts
It would be really bad if kas doesn't participate into NASL. | ||
Xswordy
United Kingdom425 Posts
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ParasitJonte
Sweden1768 Posts
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