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On March 03 2011 19:52 Deadlyfish wrote: MorroW isnt gonna beat glade, isnt his ZvZ terrible? Moonglade just seems so much stronger.
MorroW's ZvZ isn't super refined, his upgrade and droning/making unit timings are a tiny bit off (sill high class of course). However.. MorroWs micro is out of this world and that is certainly useful in a zvz.
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When is the next match so confusing.
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All these people turning on IdrA as soon as he makes a mistake, shame on you guys. You don't understand the weight that was on his shoulders in that game, he's human, humans make mistakes, get over it.
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sc starts after this interview
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yeah why isn't Apollo casting this?
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ads play perfect then stream wont load??
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On March 03 2011 19:57 tyrless wrote: yeah why isn't Apollo casting this?
he just answered that on page 34
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On March 03 2011 19:35 sniverty wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 19:25 kNyTTyM wrote:
Let me try to really simplify why making a comeback is too hard for zerg. To comeback you really have three chances. First is winning a major turning battle, second is overexpanding, third is winning several small skirmishes. In brood war that third option was more prevalent and you even had a forth option of rushing a game changing tech (defiler, carrier, etc). So option 1 really doesn't work too well in sc2 anymore.
Getting 7 bases up as zerg doesn't really do much because saturating 3 bases with minerals already puts you at the maximum number of drones you want. Also with that protoss position at 12, any hint of low unit count from idra scouted via obs will result in an instant attack into the main. 5 second attack distance gives no time to play greedy. In this case protoss is going to play defensive until 200/200 unless he sees no units from zerg.
Another option is winning a key battle by overinvesting in units and hoping protoss makes a bad attack. Protoss can prevent this loss by turtling to 200/200.
Lastly is using small cost effective skirmishes until you make up your disadvantage. Zerg really doesn't have this option except for drop and countering. Protoss defend this by playing defensive and turtling.
So now what option does zerg have outside of these ways? Banking on better mechanics like in brood war just doesn't work. I know this is extremely simplified but I can't really think of any other way. I know it's hard, perhaps even nearly impossible. I never said that zerg can easily make a comeback against such a powerful army. All I said was, IdrA needs to try. Protoss' strength lies in it's exceptionally powerful ball-of-death. But that can also be seen as a weakness, those units need to stick close to each other for maximum efficiency. So why not attack at different places? A poke at Squirtle's natural would've done one of two things. 1. Squirtle says "screw it" and roflstomps IdrA's main and natural, but also leaving his main open to IdrA's army, potentially losing all unit producing capability. 2. Squirtle retreats to his natural with some warp-ins and slow colossi. So, why would IdrA not try poking at the natural? If he thinks he's going to lose, might as well make it hard for the protoss, make it such that you don't face the protoss in a head to head battle. Would you face a really strong army head on, or would you attack where he is weakest and go for a base trade?
That's exactly what the attack at 12 was. How many more of those did you want to see? Hitting 12 had the highest chance of success with his slow ass hydras mixed in so he tried it. Squirtle got in position too fast and that was that. He may have not been economically behind (I don't remember where he was exactly) but positionally he was in deep shit. Another attempt would basically be the equivalent of a second round of zerglings from a 6pool after the first failed. It just wasn't going to happen in this spot.
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On March 03 2011 19:57 tyrless wrote: yeah why isn't Apollo casting this?
'cause Day9 +TLO, Day9 + Rotti, TLO+Rotti are all about 10x better than any DApollo archon. They have been incredibly good, great choice by ESL/IEM.
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I think rotterdam, tlo and day9 works great in all combinations. Really great casting thruout this whole tournament.
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I so want Morrow to win... and then win all IEM... Look on Idra face then should be priceless
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Battle of the sex godssssssss.
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interviewing morrow and moonglade about zvz
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Comon Morrow you can do it!!!
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omg take.. speak english =[
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moonglade look like he had a rough night
also sick interview lol
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MorroW looking awkward with the girl again <3 :D Heja Stefan!
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On March 03 2011 19:58 SayTT wrote: I think rotterdam, tlo and day9 works great in all combinations. Really great casting thruout this whole tournament. Yeah and Rotterdam is always so cute when hes casting ! :-)
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moonglade is such a baller
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