[GSL March] Code A Ro32 Day 2 - Page 101

On February 24 2011 04:54 Sein wrote:


Does BitByBitPrime fit into that "some of the best players possible" category? He just hasn't shown good enough performances to make it far in GSL's.

I've heard that he plays very well during practice sessions in oGs/TL house though so maybe the nerve is getting to him in front of big crowds. Good try though Haypro and thank you for providing us with a couple of entertaining games. I hope you can get a better result next time.

On February 24 2011 05:14 sylverfyre wrote:

BBBP is more like "the most frustrating opponent possible in a tournament setting" with his coin-flip all-ins. And if you get bad maps or spawn close positions, the coin is weighted against you.

On February 24 2011 05:25 T.O.P. wrote:
I'm a big fan of ganzi's tvz style, reminds me of broodwar tvz. But god damn, he keeps losing his units due to carelessness. It's like he forgets where his medivacs are and then he loses 5 medivacs with marines to mutas. I guess that's why he's one of the worst bw pros ever, 21-34 38.18% lifetime record.

On February 24 2011 05:29 teamsolid wrote:

And why Ganzi's in Code A rather than Code S. If it was Nestea or Fruitdealer playing that same game, I bet a much larger portion of the drops would've been easily defended and the game would've easily swung into the Zerg's favour as the game went on.

On another note, ZeNEXCoCa vs ST_Ace Game 2... Kelly outcasting Tasteless SO HARD... wow. She's definitely improving fast, and I think she definitely understand the Zerg matches much better than Tasteless since she actually plays the race. Even though I was skeptical of her before, I think she's doing quite well.

It was kind of also painful listening to ZeNEXCoCa vs ST_Ace Game 1, when Tasteless was misreading the game completely. The Zerg was never behind at any point of the game, the only dangerous part was when the DT was killing off a ton of drones, but by then he was so far ahead it didn't matter.

On February 24 2011 06:02 Zephirdd wrote:


What?

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I loved Coca's games(is it Coca as in Cocaine? I kept thinking about that lmao), and kelly is a really good caster IMO. Even without american accent - her voice is kinda cute too.

Too bad haypro went out, Ganzi is pretty damn good tho. way to go haypro!


And also, Leenock outplayed YugiOh HAAAAAAAAARD. I mean, does yugioh hates speed or something?

On February 24 2011 05:22 Sein wrote:


Well, they played on Blistering and Scrap, two of the maps considered to be better for zergs, rather than on Steppes or Metal close spawn, so the coin flip should've been weighted against BBBP?

On February 24 2011 06:06 Geovu wrote:

No one knew how BBBP played then, it was right at the beginning of the "All in phase" of the GSL, and I believe HayprO only recently got to Korea at that point and hasn't practiced much on the KR server. Not even Koreans knew how to stop it 2 rax that point, let alone a newly arriving foreigner from a scene less dominated by cheese and all ins.

I'm sad that he lost now though. IMO it should have really gone on at least to a game 3. The thing is Terran dropped so much everywhere at once that it was really impossible for him to take any expansions, especially on Scrap Station. I think he might have done better if he managed to take out the rocks on Scrap's side expansion and gone there, or if he followed Tasteless' advice in game 3 to concentrate more on the bottom expansions.

And just so everyone realizes, Haypro not cancelling all those hatcheries is a thousand times less important a mistake compared to Ganzi losing probably something close to 100 marines, 20 medivacs and over a dozen tanks trying to harass. Also, Haypro had virtually no opportunity to harass Ganzi's main base and the mutas honestly did more money worth in damage in killing drops than they would have probably have done if he sent them to Ganzi's main.

Ganzi played amazingly, but I still don't understand how he really won after losing so many damn dropships. I guess it really is true that Zerg is screwed 100% if they aren't a base or 7 ahead.

On February 24 2011 06:50 Sein wrote:


MK was already using similar builds during GSL2. 2rax was already quite popular by the time GSL3 began and it was pretty evident even just from all the TvZ games before Haypro walked into his booth. ITR, a finalist and a semifinalist of the previous two GSL's, lost in R64 trying to use that build in both of his games. Surely Haypro should have seen 2rax coming. It's not like BBB is amazing at executing cheese as shown in his series vs. FD.

Some of you are really going overboard trying to excuse Haypro for everything he does. First, he is so unlucky to draw the best players possible. Then, BBBPrime who the vast majority of people here bashed and called a terrible player, is apparently the most frustrating player to play against in a tournament. Finally, he didn't have enough time to practice and no one knew how to stop 2 rax. What's next?

You can see from my first post that I respect Haypro and wish for his success, but I mean, come on. He hasn't performed well in GSL so far and you can't really argue against that. It'd certainly be great to see more TL members doing well in GSL.