EPT[GSTL] Day 3 - Semifinals - Page 76
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fUddO
Canada197 Posts
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KonohaFlash
Canada1590 Posts
On February 09 2011 21:34 Armsved wrote: I've seen idra lose to this shit several times on his stream.. Only answer seems to be: 1. get around 80 drones asap. 2. denie 3rd 3. keep denie 3rd. Yup. Once toss get's on 3 bases, it's extremely hard to beat them,with all those tech and weapon upgrades.  edit: lol both players got dropped. | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On February 09 2011 21:35 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote: Mutas don't do well against this. Mutas are cost-ineffecient against Void Rays. If you have 2 more bases that may be enough but suddenly switching to it from Hydras? Not really viable. He would've to get air upgrades as well and the Toss just builds more Phoenixes, as well as 1-2 sentries and more stalkers. Against such a strategy you need to NOT go Hydras but actually mass Roach + mass Corrupters and engage constantly to hold his unit count low and prevent further bases to go up, But scouting that exactly isn't too easy and it's a hard decision on such a huge map. Wisdom. You don't want hydras at all, P wants to force hydras by getting Voids and then completely counter it by adding Colossi. | ||
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Krehlmar
Sweden1149 Posts
On February 09 2011 21:30 Sneddo wrote: Oh wow that was a sick ball.... I don't see what could have destroyed that from Zerg... if he switched to full mutas, protoss would have just warped in stalkers to clean up... You do know mass mutas+uppgrades beat mass stalkers+uppgrades right? Seriously, I've played all races alot cause I love to roll random (only manly race) there isn't any imbalance here. This is like a terran having a huge fucking Thor/Maurader mix going against a zerg with only Ultralisks and roaches. Had he NOT attacked and just built a fuckload of 3/we mutas that'd be okay. As it played out now, he ran in and died with his units and protoss pushed. It shouldve been protoss trying to push across map with mutas harassing base and/or harassing his army as they pushed across the map... instead of like now; sad skirmishes of mostly hydra/corruptors against a 200 protoss army of the biggest dpsers they have. | ||
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Ayrie
United States213 Posts
if kyrix knew what seed / yonghwa was going for earlier, he probably would've tried to take more expos and get mutas, since mutas > void rays. makes me wonder why he tried to break it with just corruptors... | ||
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TeMiL
Peru545 Posts
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smileyyy
Germany1816 Posts
On February 09 2011 21:35 Klogon wrote: That was actually a very boring game. 10 minutes of nothing. yeah Kyrix didnt really knew what to do. I guess he needs more practice on that map lol.... Kinda funny that YongHwa could abuse the map distance so easily. | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On February 09 2011 21:35 caracarn wrote: I cant belive how bad the zerg was playing... Way to passive. You cant let toss mass the deatball like that. And go hydras is exactly what the toss player wants to... I am so dissapointed at the z play... Not the easiest thing in the world to attack into a protoss. FF's are a good way to stall attacks. Preventing the 3rd was probably the only hope he had. | ||
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Kavas
Australia3421 Posts
On February 09 2011 21:33 Madest wrote: Lol, White-Ra uses this combo for a month or so in late game PvZ. It can be countered either by mass mutas with upgrades or with roaches/corrupters in 1:1 proportion. Around 30 corrupters with +2 attack destroy both void rays and collosi. And what are you going to do with 30 corrupters after that? Scout? Kyrix probably had to scout/ be more aggressive. | ||
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MrSexington
United States1768 Posts
I mean... it's not just a GOM set up or something. It never happens in the other GSL games...  | ||
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amd098
Korea (North)1366 Posts
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BeyondCtrL
Sweden642 Posts
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On February 09 2011 21:37 Kavas wrote: And what are you going to do with 30 corrupters after that? Scout? Kyrix probably had to scout/ be more aggressive. It doesn't matter if you have corruptors left over because Protoss has no colossi or voids. Protoss gateway reinforcements aren't going to beat Zerg roach reinforcements. | ||
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Armsved
Denmark642 Posts
On February 09 2011 21:36 Dfgj wrote: Wisdom. You don't want hydras at all, P wants to force hydras by getting Voids and then completely counter it by adding Colossi. Also, if you have enough VRs hydras just dont counter them. | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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Lucius2
Germany548 Posts
the only way to beat this is overproducing corrupters and kill all the voids/collosi and remax with roach/hydra. another possibilty which is kinda good is broodlords to tank collosus fire then having again mass corrupters with some hydra support. | ||
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smileyyy
Germany1816 Posts
On February 09 2011 21:37 Kavas wrote: And what are you going to do with 30 corrupters after that? Scout? Kyrix probably had to scout/ be more aggressive. you win .. .  | ||
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DestroManiak
257 Posts
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abunai
Scotland103 Posts
On February 09 2011 21:36 TeMiL wrote: score? 1st page isnt updated 2-1 to IM | ||
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haka
United States1414 Posts
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