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On February 09 2011 21:31 adRo. wrote:
Wow, that was a very nice strat by yonghwa. I still dont even feel that was executed as well as it could of (the dt's didnt seem very necesarry, maybe once you have the third up and running).
Could possibly be the future of ZvP!
Or someone will have the idea of making mutalisks and this strat will screw. I don't think this will be the future of anything.
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Lol, White-Ra uses this combo for a month or so in late game PvZ.
It can be countered either by mass mutas with upgrades or with roaches/corrupters in 1:1 proportion. Around 30 corrupters with +2 attack destroy both void rays and collosi.
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that was painful to watch, the deathball- soo many lasers. If i were a zerg i dunno what to deal with that.
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wow, talk about a macro game, maybe the map is slightly too big? still, very fun to watch
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rofl so hilarious hahahaha
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Flash and Jaedong confirmed from the future.
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On February 09 2011 21:28 Jumbled wrote:Why corruptors is a better question. With voids/zealots/colossi there, he should be pumping mutas.
Or mutas yes. But he only had 2-3 colossi, he MUST kill those then all the rest fall appart to a good mass of hydras. Can't beleive he never tried to kill those 
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I've seen idra lose to this shit several times on his stream.. Only answer seems to be:
1. get around 80 drones asap.
2. denie 3rd
3. keep denie 3rd.
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On February 09 2011 21:32 Rayansaki wrote:
Team IM games are so incredible and so entertaining to watch. Everyone plays unorthodox but brutal every time, and they have such variety of players.
Totally agree well said - we're getting some good games from both teams though. I'm enjoying this series a lot actually.
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Kyrix could have get his 4th sooner, made 90 banelings ezpz, storm the front, lose everything, take his 5th, storm again...
I agree that this ball is unblockable if you let it be with no aggression and if you wait it in the middle of the map with 50% of your overlords. I think this is the new map syndrom : players don't really know what to expect.
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United Kingdom38255 Posts
Zenex sending out  ON
He played pretty well yesterday, even if he did have a fortuitously good lead to start.
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On February 09 2011 21:33 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2011 21:31 adRo. wrote:
Wow, that was a very nice strat by yonghwa. I still dont even feel that was executed as well as it could of (the dt's didnt seem very necesarry, maybe once you have the third up and running).
Could possibly be the future of ZvP! Or someone will have the idea of making mutalisks and this strat will screw. I don't think this will be the future of anything.
This is ALREADY THE PRESENT of PvZ, and has been for months.
Correct response (besides a timing attack) is heavy air investment and mopping up with roaches, so you're right on that.
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I cant belive how bad the zerg was playing...
Way to passive. You cant let toss mass the deatball like that.
And go hydras is exactly what the toss player wants to...
I am so dissapointed at the z play...
My goal in zvp is to deny the 3rd which is very possible, just suicide 20 roaches and u will kill the expo. And then u need to overkill the deathball like 20-30 corruptors. Lings and ling speed is not good at that maps...
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MURICA15980 Posts
That was actually a very boring game. 10 minutes of nothing. I guess the build was pretty bold though, although I fear it might become a standard for PvZ on the big maps. That'd be terrible. So boring.
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Mutas don't do well against this. Mutas are cost-ineffecient against Void Rays. If you have 2 more bases that may be enough but suddenly switching to it from Hydras? Not really viable. He would've to get air upgrades as well and the Toss just builds more Phoenixes, as well as 1-2 sentries and more stalkers.
Against such a strategy you need to NOT go Hydras but actually mass Roach + mass Corrupters and engage constantly to hold his unit count low and prevent further bases to go up, But scouting that exactly isn't too easy and it's a hard decision on such a huge map.
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On February 09 2011 21:33 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2011 21:31 adRo. wrote:
Wow, that was a very nice strat by yonghwa. I still dont even feel that was executed as well as it could of (the dt's didnt seem very necesarry, maybe once you have the third up and running).
Could possibly be the future of ZvP! Or someone will have the idea of making mutalisks and this strat will screw. I don't think this will be the future of anything.
If younghwa saw a spire instead of a hydra den with his scouting pheonix, he couldve just added a 3rd stargate and added in more pheonixes
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On February 09 2011 21:33 cyclone25 wrote:
Artosis had a hard time figuring out what the Protoss was doing while observing the game. Now he's blaming Kyrix for not scouting and not making the "perfect" counter.
Hard to scout as well, every overlord he sent was destroyed instantly by voids.
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I was just thinking - everyone seemed to be surprised how good the IM players seem to be.
But like, they are train with their teammates both MVP and NesTea who are arguable the best players in the world right now. And if you're training with them all day, the chances are your going to be fucking brilliant.
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