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amd098
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (North)1366 Posts
February 09 2011 12:38 GMT
#1521
2-1 savoring IM
thats right, SAVORING.
North Korea is best Korea!
kirbynator
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada503 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 12:38:57
February 09 2011 12:38 GMT
#1522
what I find weird is these IM second tier guys got totally destroyed in the team league last month.

Was IM sandbagging for the GSL team league? lol seems like a decent possibility...
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
February 09 2011 12:38 GMT
#1523
On February 09 2011 21:38 Armsved wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2011 21:36 Dfgj wrote:
On February 09 2011 21:35 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Mutas don't do well against this. Mutas are cost-ineffecient against Void Rays. If you have 2 more bases that may be enough but suddenly switching to it from Hydras? Not really viable. He would've to get air upgrades as well and the Toss just builds more Phoenixes, as well as 1-2 sentries and more stalkers.

Against such a strategy you need to NOT go Hydras but actually mass Roach + mass Corrupters and engage constantly to hold his unit count low and prevent further bases to go up, But scouting that exactly isn't too easy and it's a hard decision on such a huge map.

Wisdom.

You don't want hydras at all, P wants to force hydras by getting Voids and then completely counter it by adding Colossi.


Also, if you have enough VRs hydras just dont counter them.

Not to mention the Forcefields and all the other things P has, yeah.
Ayrie
Profile Joined September 2010
United States213 Posts
February 09 2011 12:39 GMT
#1524
On February 09 2011 21:37 Kavas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2011 21:33 Madest wrote:
Lol, White-Ra uses this combo for a month or so in late game PvZ.
It can be countered either by mass mutas with upgrades or with roaches/corrupters in 1:1 proportion. Around 30 corrupters with +2 attack destroy both void rays and collosi.


And what are you going to do with 30 corrupters after that? Scout?

Kyrix probably had to scout/ be more aggressive.

if you have that many surviving corruptors, keep some around just to deter colo / void ray and force him to go immortal stalker templar... then have the other corruptors become broodlords!
kyrix had to be aggressive in terms of taking the map and taking advantage of his opponent turtling hardcore like that off two base.
And that's what she said.
ahbon
Profile Joined October 2010
France325 Posts
February 09 2011 12:39 GMT
#1525
finally a TvP i've been waiting for this mu for age
cyprin
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1105 Posts
February 09 2011 12:39 GMT
#1526
I don't like how these maps actually can actually have an effect on the way the game plays, extra mineral patches, 1 geyser etc.
Jurassic
Profile Joined July 2010
Hungary79 Posts
February 09 2011 12:39 GMT
#1527
Maybe zerg should try going early 6-8 corruptors July style (on big maps like this)? That way they can snipe voids and colossi and protoss wont really have stalkers to defend them.
KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
February 09 2011 12:39 GMT
#1528
On February 09 2011 21:38 kirbynator wrote:
what I find weird is these IM second tier guys got totally destroyed in the team league last month.

Was IM sandbagging for the GSL team league? lol seems like a decent possibility...


They've got MVP and Nestea for practice partners
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
February 09 2011 12:40 GMT
#1529
On February 09 2011 21:37 Kavas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2011 21:33 Madest wrote:
Lol, White-Ra uses this combo for a month or so in late game PvZ.
It can be countered either by mass mutas with upgrades or with roaches/corrupters in 1:1 proportion. Around 30 corrupters with +2 attack destroy both void rays and collosi.


And what are you going to do with 30 corrupters after that? Scout?

Kyrix probably had to scout/ be more aggressive.


/dance because they can't rebuild fast enough?
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
TheZeth
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom16 Posts
February 09 2011 12:40 GMT
#1530
What's with the crazy disco floor in the middle of all these new maps? o_O
Rayansaki
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal1266 Posts
February 09 2011 12:40 GMT
#1531
4th match, 4 different matchups every time now all we need is TvT and PvP (wouldn't mind skipping this one :X)
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse: IMNestea (Death), IMLosirA (Famine), IMmvp (War), IMFenix (Conquest)
Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
February 09 2011 12:41 GMT
#1532
The problem Kyrix had was that he was pretty much maxxed on Hydras when he scouted the strategy. Needs mass air units, but can't just throw his current army away against the death ball.

I'd say his best route probably would have been to get drops and just harass with the Hydras wherever possible and make Corruptors whenever they die, while the toss is defending.
coReY425
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark86 Posts
February 09 2011 12:41 GMT
#1533
9 patches? Doesnt that nerf terran? I figure they would have less scvs due to upgrade time on orbital, and no chronoboost. I guess FE zerg it would be equally unbenificial, so a pure protoss buff I guess? Either way interresting, though Id want it to be on either all maps or none when its figured out.
Lucius2
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany548 Posts
February 09 2011 12:41 GMT
#1534
why do ppl push with that first stalker and lose it. basically game there.

i feel like im watching a random diamond match
DestroManiak
Profile Joined December 2010
257 Posts
February 09 2011 12:42 GMT
#1535
those green hex'es look soo good :D
Madest
Profile Joined June 2010
Ukraine179 Posts
February 09 2011 12:42 GMT
#1536
On February 09 2011 21:37 Kavas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2011 21:33 Madest wrote:
Lol, White-Ra uses this combo for a month or so in late game PvZ.
It can be countered either by mass mutas with upgrades or with roaches/corrupters in 1:1 proportion. Around 30 corrupters with +2 attack destroy both void rays and collosi.


And what are you going to do with 30 corrupters after that? Scout?

Kyrix probably had to scout/ be more aggressive.


1. Obviously there will be less than 30 corrupters after attack.

2. And they will still have a function to deny any further void rays or colossi, so protoss will have to switch to gateway units. After that zerg should just get mass roaches or roaches/hydras.

And yes, of cource you should scout constantly and be aggressive (denying the third) when you're facing that build.
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
February 09 2011 12:42 GMT
#1537
Chrono obs instead of immortal rofl.
I <3 Plexa.
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
February 09 2011 12:42 GMT
#1538
YongHwa vs Kyrix was a case of Kyrix not seeing that style before. He waited until the army was just maxed, and THEN attacked.

Interesting to see that strat is viable on larger maps.
Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
February 09 2011 12:42 GMT
#1539
On February 09 2011 21:40 TheZeth wrote:
What's with the crazy disco floor in the middle of all these new maps? o_O

Yeah it's fugly :S
Feels like a 4 year old put some glitter on the map to make it "pretty".

I miss old SC1 graphics when space looked cold, hostile and barren. SC2 is more soft, round and Mac glowcolours
My Comment Doesnt Matter Because No One Reads It
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
February 09 2011 12:42 GMT
#1540
Hes getting pushed in, its getting close
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
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