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baal80
Profile Joined October 2010
Poland58 Posts
January 23 2011 16:35 GMT
#621
WIll the match for 3rd place be casted as well?
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
January 23 2011 16:35 GMT
#622
Cloud is a really good caster, would be nice to see him cast the finals too.

looking forward to the finals, white-ra got this!
resilve
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom678 Posts
January 23 2011 16:35 GMT
#623
What was that facebook link? D:
Socke Fighting!!!!
craz3d
Profile Joined August 2005
Bulgaria856 Posts
January 23 2011 16:36 GMT
#624
On January 24 2011 01:34 GenoZStriker wrote:
CS grand finals is next. Then QL GF followed by SC2.


Damn, looks like i won't be going anywhere for the next ~4 hours:D
Hello World!
Towni
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria144 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 16:37:24
January 23 2011 16:36 GMT
#625
At what time are the finals gonna start since the Timetable is kinda messed up?

Edit: posting above already answered it.
SC2Real
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany184 Posts
January 23 2011 16:37 GMT
#626
blue flame helions are imba ._.

is it possible to not kill at least 5 workers with >1 helion? :o
mike1
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany155 Posts
January 23 2011 16:39 GMT
#627
i think white ra will win this...cloud did a great job as a co caster
Kirb
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany900 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 16:43:29
January 23 2011 16:41 GMT
#628
On January 24 2011 01:35 baal80 wrote:
WIll the match for 3rd place be casted as well?


Yes will be casted on the starcraft stream not the main one. I guess filly and hasu will do it again.

Edit: Nvm .. sonic and filly... ^^
baal80
Profile Joined October 2010
Poland58 Posts
January 23 2011 16:43 GMT
#629
On January 24 2011 01:41 Kirb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 01:35 baal80 wrote:
WIll the match for 3rd place be casted as well?


Yes will be casted on the starcraft stream not the main one. I guess filly and hasu will do it again.


Thanks <3
CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
January 23 2011 16:45 GMT
#630
mTw GOGO! DK represent!
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RotterdaM
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands684 Posts
January 23 2011 16:46 GMT
#631
http://www.facebook.com/IEMtv is the link to the facebook page

Glad you guys liked clouds commentating, I really did as well, if Ben went out earlyer I would have asked him to commentate but since he was still In he didnt wanna do it which is super reasonable obviously and after the semi final he was dissapointed so didnt feel like it either, perhaps he can do the final if hes done with his 3rd place game but I cant guarantee that, I will ask him but cant promise, if not I think Cloud is the man to go and we'll do our best to make it a great final :D
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duckland
Profile Joined October 2010
Poland150 Posts
January 23 2011 16:46 GMT
#632
OMG Tarson play worst games ever saw: late on everything, late moves late reactions omg so poor preformance...its like Socke play ultra bad yesterday vs Tarson so today Tarson play same vs Sjow...
Dont drink alkohol before cup with 7,500$ on line:/

GW Sjow
IM and ST best teams in the world. Nestea and MVP sick good. Jinro ♥ Sjow ♥
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
January 23 2011 16:46 GMT
#633
On January 24 2011 01:37 SC2Real wrote:
blue flame helions are imba ._.

is it possible to not kill at least 5 workers with >1 helion? :o

I personally find that its a pretty risky build. Getting blue flame costs alot of time/gas, so it has to kill much more than 5 to pay off.

The gas investment means you are behind in the overall tank/viking count, which can allow the other player to contain or in rare cases straight up kill you.
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 17:08:17
January 23 2011 16:50 GMT
#634
On January 24 2011 01:15 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Some people think marauders are bad in TvT? Who are these people?

TLO ...
Over the last two days he killed Marine-Tank terrans without Marauders. Primarily hunting tanks with Marines. VODs for this should be on Ragequit TV.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
January 23 2011 16:50 GMT
#635
On January 24 2011 01:46 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 01:37 SC2Real wrote:
blue flame helions are imba ._.

is it possible to not kill at least 5 workers with >1 helion? :o

I personally find that its a pretty risky build. Getting blue flame costs alot of time/gas, so it has to kill much more than 5 to pay off.

The gas investment means you are behind in the overall tank/viking count, which can allow the other player to contain or in rare cases straight up kill you.


Yea but on the other hand, BF hellions kill workers so fast its not only very effective, but also insanely stressful to fight against, deflecting normal drops is already tense, but knowing a couple units can just waltz in and destroy your econ in seconds is pretty tough, sometimes forcing enemies to pull back and allowing map control.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
January 23 2011 16:51 GMT
#636
On January 24 2011 01:24 hiyo_bye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 01:20 norlock wrote:
On January 24 2011 01:18 hiyo_bye wrote:
I know no one is perfect, but it seemed like Tarson and Sjow both made quite a few mistakes last game with banshees and drops and scvs. Jinro's play, for example, seems a lot more refined.


Why are you comparing eu t's with jinro? I think mc plays a lot better than white ra dunno why.


Well, Jinro is from EU, and it's not like everyone who's been to Korea is better than the EU players.

A lot of people say stuff about how EU players would do quite well in the GSL and whatnot. You might not be one of them, but I'm just commenting on how I think there's still quite a skill gap. Still, that was just an example, and I feel like these little mistakes like losing banshees and medivacs don't happen in most pro games I watch.

Sjow just went 11-0 tvt vs europe's best, I really would like to see him play vs Jinro actually.
resilve
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom678 Posts
January 23 2011 16:51 GMT
#637
On January 24 2011 01:46 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 01:37 SC2Real wrote:
blue flame helions are imba ._.

is it possible to not kill at least 5 workers with >1 helion? :o

I personally find that its a pretty risky build. Getting blue flame costs alot of time/gas, so it has to kill much more than 5 to pay off.



Feels like you could afk the hellions after drop and still get more than 5 kills.

Seen very very few hellion drops not pay for themselves if they dont drop on the heads of marines.

And seen more than enough give 20+ kills to make it a worthwhile risk :p
Socke Fighting!!!!
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 16:52:43
January 23 2011 16:52 GMT
#638
On January 24 2011 01:50 Rabiator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 01:15 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Some people think marauders are bad in TvT? Who are these people?

TLO ...
Over the last two days he killed Marine-Tank terrans without Marauders. Primarily hunting tanks with Marines. VODs for this are on Ragequit TV.


It's definitely doable and there isn't a need for if you have impeccable positioning and read your opponent correctly. However, should you intend to engage army vs army, investing in a handful of marauders is extremely useful. There are alternatives to actually engaging directly, but if you intend do they're 100% viable.

Great casting as always, Rotterdam.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
cArn-
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)824 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 16:59:52
January 23 2011 16:54 GMT
#639
On January 24 2011 01:26 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 01:23 cArn- wrote:
On January 24 2011 01:15 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Some people think marauders are bad in TvT? Who are these people?


koreans and for a reason, marauders get destroyed by marines and I'm not even talking when a PDD comes into play. If one terran goes marauders he suddenly isn't that mobile anymore because of marines, he cant' drop nor bust tank lines, marines are soo much better, the only situation where marauders work is when you're ahead anyway and want to end the game breaking a terran stalling with siege tank defense


I wasn't advocating pure marauder play. But if your opponent has any decent number of tanks, not getting marauders is just silly. They soak so much damage and take out the tanks so fast while protecting your own. It has been shown since the beta that marauder's mobility and strength against tanks will always mean they have a place in TvT if your opponent makes enough tanks.


but in beta people weren't playing heavy marine to support tanks, it was heavy vikings, and that changes everything.

Also you can upgrade faster when not building marauders, have more tanks / medivacs, and that's way more efficient than to try to brute force with marauders ; a marauder dies to 3 tank shots, a marine 2 tank shots, if you have proper control (spreading flanking etc) it's better in almost every situtation to have 2 marines instead of 1 marauder.

However I totally agree that using the one barracks with tech lab to make marauders until you swap it to a factory or something can't be bad
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Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
January 23 2011 16:55 GMT
#640
dsn is playing SC2 as a warm up for the CS finals:D
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
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