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ParasitJonte
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden1768 Posts
January 24 2011 11:03 GMT
#2021
On January 24 2011 16:39 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 10:02 1Eris1 wrote:
On January 24 2011 09:57 Huragius wrote:
On January 24 2011 09:45 1Eris1 wrote:
On January 24 2011 08:57 Huragius wrote:
On January 24 2011 08:54 1Eris1 wrote:
Hmm, interesting finals. i don't think anyone can really argue though that both Sjow and White ra are the top foriegnors for there races. (Jinro doesn't count) with Demuslim and a few others right beneath them


If only Jinro doesn't count:
Protoss: Huk
Terran: Select (But Sjow is close to him. Althou some people don't count Select as foreigner so I would go with Sjow then).



No, Im sorry. the TL HuK bias is way out of control. HuK hasn't put up any significant results as of late and was never dominating that many tournaments to begin with. White-ra has been extremely consistent and constantly in the top 4 of major tournaments. Players like Naniwas, Mana, and Kiwi have all shown better results than HuK
As for Select, idk, Sjow just knocked him out of another tournament, and again, Select hasn't put up major results as of late. I'd even put Kas above Select at this point


Maybe I was wrong about Select, but definitely not about HuK. He is dominating top koreans in ladder, such as ImNestea and JunwiPrime in quite one sided games (at least the ones I saw in gosugamers.net: http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/replays/41835, http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/replays/41836) and his ladder stats are really impressive. I'm talking about the best foreigner Protoss player, not the most accomplished protoss foreigner player. And I think we will see HuK in action pretty soon. Also, if he went back to NA, I think he would take a lot more tournaments than WhiteRa did in these last months, over the same period of time.



And White-ra has been dominating the Euro ladder etc etc same with other protoss. Most of the foriegnors we see go over to Korea do just fine on the ladder but then have little sucess when it comes to tournaments.
Ladder is a very hard and not a good way to measure skill. At this point, accomplishments> random ladder strats

Pretty sure nobody except huk has made it into the top 5 of the korean ladder with TWO ACCOUNTS AT THE SAME TIME.

It doesnt really matter tho, when he finally gets a chance to play another tournament (GSL Code A, MLG etc) you will see how good he is, until then its fair enough if you want to put someone else as the best protoss.


And I'm guessing you would vouch for HuK based on practice games as well probably ?
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vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
January 24 2011 11:24 GMT
#2022
On January 24 2011 20:03 ParasitJonte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 16:39 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On January 24 2011 10:02 1Eris1 wrote:
On January 24 2011 09:57 Huragius wrote:
On January 24 2011 09:45 1Eris1 wrote:
On January 24 2011 08:57 Huragius wrote:
On January 24 2011 08:54 1Eris1 wrote:
Hmm, interesting finals. i don't think anyone can really argue though that both Sjow and White ra are the top foriegnors for there races. (Jinro doesn't count) with Demuslim and a few others right beneath them


If only Jinro doesn't count:
Protoss: Huk
Terran: Select (But Sjow is close to him. Althou some people don't count Select as foreigner so I would go with Sjow then).



No, Im sorry. the TL HuK bias is way out of control. HuK hasn't put up any significant results as of late and was never dominating that many tournaments to begin with. White-ra has been extremely consistent and constantly in the top 4 of major tournaments. Players like Naniwas, Mana, and Kiwi have all shown better results than HuK
As for Select, idk, Sjow just knocked him out of another tournament, and again, Select hasn't put up major results as of late. I'd even put Kas above Select at this point


Maybe I was wrong about Select, but definitely not about HuK. He is dominating top koreans in ladder, such as ImNestea and JunwiPrime in quite one sided games (at least the ones I saw in gosugamers.net: http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/replays/41835, http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/replays/41836) and his ladder stats are really impressive. I'm talking about the best foreigner Protoss player, not the most accomplished protoss foreigner player. And I think we will see HuK in action pretty soon. Also, if he went back to NA, I think he would take a lot more tournaments than WhiteRa did in these last months, over the same period of time.



And White-ra has been dominating the Euro ladder etc etc same with other protoss. Most of the foriegnors we see go over to Korea do just fine on the ladder but then have little sucess when it comes to tournaments.
Ladder is a very hard and not a good way to measure skill. At this point, accomplishments> random ladder strats

Pretty sure nobody except huk has made it into the top 5 of the korean ladder with TWO ACCOUNTS AT THE SAME TIME.

It doesnt really matter tho, when he finally gets a chance to play another tournament (GSL Code A, MLG etc) you will see how good he is, until then its fair enough if you want to put someone else as the best protoss.


And I'm guessing you would vouch for HuK based on practice games as well probably ?


He is his teammate and he doesn't play against the European protoss, so I don't think it means to much when he says that Huk is the best foreigner protoss. People normally perform better in practice matches, so you always see players who rate their teammates higher than other players.

I'm really looking forward to foreigner tournaments with the Liquid guys (like MLG).
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
January 24 2011 18:47 GMT
#2023
On January 24 2011 12:02 Zaccubus wrote:
please let me know what you think and stuff ! feedback is always good

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Well, the music was EXTREMELY loud compared to the rest of the audio in the video
duckii
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1017 Posts
January 24 2011 19:05 GMT
#2024
On January 24 2011 18:00 Influ wrote:
is cologne the only global challange this season?

afaik the global challenge will be in Hannover
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
January 24 2011 19:18 GMT
#2025
On January 25 2011 04:05 quarky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 18:00 Influ wrote:
is cologne the only global challange this season?

afaik the global challenge will be in Hannover


Hannover? Awesome and when? During Cebit or what?
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
Wuffey
Profile Joined May 2010
252 Posts
January 24 2011 19:20 GMT
#2026
On January 25 2011 04:18 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 04:05 quarky wrote:
On January 24 2011 18:00 Influ wrote:
is cologne the only global challange this season?

afaik the global challenge will be in Hannover


Hannover? Awesome and when? During Cebit or what?


http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/hanover/
Influ
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany780 Posts
January 24 2011 19:20 GMT
#2027
On January 25 2011 04:05 quarky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 18:00 Influ wrote:
is cologne the only global challange this season?

afaik the global challenge will be in Hannover


global challange was in cologne at gamescom, global finals will be in hannover at cebit but there were also 1-2 global challanges at asia (chengdu, dubai, etc...) in the past seasons. it seems like there was a global challange in shanghai in early august which was part of season 5 so i just missed that one.
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